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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "how should i be punished" 1 2 how should i be punished (12) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Fri 30 Dec 05, 10:46 AM 827-982-333 US, 6 yrs Y! i have displeased my Master, my Owner, he has requested that I ask of you how I should be punished Details: I went out of town on vacation for the holiday, i did not ask His permission, i disobeyed His daily commands of me... He has requested suggestions as to how i should be punished. i welcome any suggestions. 30 Dec 05, 12:02 PM 000-826-874 US, 11 yrs Wow, does there exsist a punishment that would actually cover it for Him? Tom Straye's alpha 000-826-874 Edited 30 Dec 05, 12:03 PM by 000-826-874 30 Dec 05, 12:04 PM slavejanet US, 6 yrs 827-982-333 wrote: i have displeased my Master, my Owner, he has requested that I ask of you how I should be punished Details: I went out of town on vacation for the holiday, i did not ask His permission, i disobeyed His daily commands of me... He has requested suggestions as to how i should be punished. i welcome any suggestions. Was this trip pre planned? Were you aware that this would upset him, or was it an honest mistake? If you deliberatly did this knowing it would upset him, was there a reason? I guess I am asking because I want to know if it was family pressure or just you being bratty? If you were put in a situation where consequenses be dammed, then I suppose you should be forced to endure your most hated thing. That is what my Master does. We do not do corporal punishment. SO, he can make me suffer with out beating me. I am generally deprived of his attention, I am yelled at, humiliated, and made to work twice as hard as I usually do. Also, made to do sexual things I do not enjoy but he does. However, If this is one of those beyond your control, perhaps your Master should lighten the sentence. 30 Dec 05, 12:54 PM Chastiser 12 yrs 827-982-333 wrote: i have displeased my Master, my Owner, he has requested that I ask of you how I should be punished Details: I went out of town on vacation for the holiday, i did not ask His permission, i disobeyed His daily commands of me... He has requested suggestions as to how i should be punished. i welcome any suggestions. perhaps firstly, you should examine your reasons for such behaviour? are you in the right relationship? for me, punishment would be the ending of said relationship. Mike Let Me unchain your mind and your sexuality will follow. www.chastisersworld.com/auction The Kink Friendly Auction site that is free to buyer and seller. 30 Dec 05, 4:18 PM 000-857-861 7 yrs 827-982-333 wrote: i have displeased my Master, my Owner, he has requested that I ask of you how I should be punished Details: I went out of town on vacation for the holiday, i did not ask His permission, i disobeyed His daily commands of me... He has requested suggestions as to how i should be punished. i welcome any suggestions. Are you living with Him curently?? Did you both discuss holiday travel before hand?? That you were NOT allowed to travel. Personally, I need more information. ~slaverosebeauty~ "i am Your servant. i shall not be free. You will protect me; You will keep me safe; You will guard me. You will keep me sound; You will protect me from every demon." An Ancient Eqyptian woman's slave contract with the priests of Saknebtynis 30 Dec 05, 4:58 PM 827-982-333 US, 6 yrs Y! Was this trip pre planned? Were you aware that this would upset him, or was it an honest mistake? If you deliberatly did this knowing it would upset him, was there a reason? I guess I am asking because I want to know if it was family pressure or just you being bratty? If you were put in a situation where consequenses be dammed, then I suppose you should be forced to endure your most hated thing. That is what my Master does. We do not do corporal punishment. SO, he can make me suffer with out beating me. I am generally deprived of his attention, I am yelled at, humiliated, and made to work twice as hard as I usually do. Also, made to do sexual things I do not enjoy but he does. However, If this is one of those beyond your control, perhaps your Master should lighten the sentence. [/quote] .... the trip was approved and allowed. I've displeased my Master by my failure to follow his daily tasks. He is very disappointed in me. 30 Dec 05, 6:06 PM 000-857-861 7 yrs 827-982-333 wrote: <<snip>> .... the trip was approved and allowed. I've displeased my Master by my failure to follow his daily tasks. He is very disappointed in me. The trip was approved than why are you to be punished?? IF it is because you didn't do your daily tsaks why is that?? Is it that you did not have enough time? It was not possible due to where you were? Is it because you became lax in your daily 'duties'?? I know I ask a lot of questions, but their is not much information to go on. ~slaverosebeauty~ "i am Your servant. i shall not be free. You will protect me; You will keep me safe; You will guard me. You will keep me sound; You will protect me from every demon." An Ancient Eqyptian woman's slave contract with the priests of Saknebtynis 30 Dec 05, 7:15 PM Michael_X UK, 6 yrs slavejanet wrote: I am generally deprived of his attention, I am yelled at, humiliated, and made to work twice as hard as I usually do. Also, made to do sexual things I do not enjoy but he does. Just a few thoughts. This is my personal perspective based on what does and doesn't work with my situation and not intended as criticism of anyone. To be effective the dynamics of any actions intended to change behaviour have to be thought out carefully and consideration given to all possible consequences. What may work with one s/s/p may have the opposite effect with another. Negative reinforcers are very blunt instruments and unintended consequences common. I'm not really into punishment except as part of play. Indeed a few years ago I'd have said such wasn't used in my relationship and yet some of the dynamics of my D/s relationship look awfully like what others view as types of punishment. Early in my relationship there was formal punishment declared as such. However it didn't work the way I wanted and didn't achieve the effects I wished. The main reason for that was confusing actions intended to change behaviour and erotic play. Fairly quickly I dropped using any form of s/m play as punishment. I'd also these days be hard put to find something such as deliberate disobedience such that punishment would be appropriate. That and being way too tolerant. 1. "deprived of his attention" - I tend to withdraw attention when I am displeased. Mostly to give me time to think and because I do not wish to be around someone who has irritated me. Then it's a case of discussing what happened and why and looking at ways to change things so the problem does not happen again, preferably cannot happen again. Deliberate emotional coldness can be damaging to any relationship and as a means of punishing behaviour can be a blunt instrument with a tendency to unintended effects. 2. "yelled at" - I don't like this one, it can look too much like a lack of self-control. I'm not saying it is but I don't personally like it. Raising my voice very slightly however has happened. 3. "work twice as hard" - and if the s/s/p is working sufficiently hard that doubling it is impossible? There is also the danger that in associating work for the dom with punishment one can unintentionally condition the sub to dislike those aspects of service. 4. "humiliation" - I like using humiliation in play so again I don't want to associate it with punishment. 5. "sexual things I do not enjoy but he does" - I'd be working on changing her such that she did enjoy them and desired them intensely. As a sadist however I plead guilty to this one in terms of play. 827-982-333 wrote: .... the trip was approved and allowed. I've displeased my Master by my failure to follow his daily tasks. He is very disappointed in me. Curiously knowing she has failed to complete something I wished done or that I am disappointed with her behaviour seems to be amongst the most effective behaviour changers. You asked for some ideas. Try the following link:- http://www.domsub.info/punishmentideas.html In your Masters situation I would probably take all those tasks from you. Punishment and reward are reinforcers. Here is a link to a good entry level article on the subject. Enjoy:- http://www.as.wvu.edu/~sbb/comm221/chapters/rf.h... Indeed I recommend the entire work. It even has a chapter on reactance:- http://www.as.wvu.edu/~sbb/comm221/primer.htm Go study, Michael. 30 Dec 05, 8:44 PM 260-866-832 UK, 6 yrs Chastiser wrote: 827-982-333 wrote: i have displeased my Master, my Owner, he has requested that I ask of you how I should be punished Details: I went out of town on vacation for the holiday, i did not ask His permission, i disobeyed His daily commands of me... He has requested suggestions as to how i should be punished. i welcome any suggestions. Stripped. strung up before guests and given 35 lashes with cane. perhaps firstly, you should examine your reasons for such behaviour? are you in the right relationship? for me, punishment would be the ending of said relationship. Mike 31 Dec 05, 12:15 AM babalon US, 6 yrs 827-982-333 wrote: i have displeased my Master, my Owner, he has requested that I ask of you how I should be punished Details: I went out of town on vacation for the holiday, i did not ask His permission, i disobeyed His daily commands of me... He has requested suggestions as to how i should be punished. i welcome any suggestions. Don't allow you to do any daily tasks for a period of time. Make you earn them back. Make you beg for to be allowed to serve him in any way, each time, whether it's fetching him a glass of water, or whatever. If you don't thank him for it each time, don't permit that service until you get through your head that serving him and obeying his commands is a privilege. 31 Dec 05, 6:59 AM 000-826-874 US, 11 yrs 827-982-333 wrote: .... the trip was approved and allowed. I've displeased my Master by my failure to follow his daily tasks. He is very disappointed in me. well thank goodness for that. it read before that you'd just up and went on a holiday without permision. at least the trip itself was approved, so that helps alot. *relieved* well hopefully He'll be able to sort you out then *smile* Next page