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	TSR : Web boards : Internal Enslavement : "frustrated slaves" frustrated slaves (7) This post is on the Internal Enslavement web board. Mon 22 Aug 05, 9:29 PM Keeper_Troublesome1 7 yrs During every day life, with work commitments, family life etc etc, my slave...Troublesome1/474-435-121 gets frustrated at not being able to be the 24/7 slave that she wants to be..I too feel that at times I am letting my slave down by not being able to keep her as a 24/7 slave and not being able to be the 24/7 Master to her that I want to be and that she yearns for so much. She desperatley wants to be a 24/7 slave and to feel that she is being kept as such, and to feel that she is serving her master totally. Do any other slaves (or TOPS) have any views on this? Do you have similar feelings? Apart from the obvious " make time for each other" answer,does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for maintaining consistancy in these situations? Keeper_Troublesome1 22 Aug 05, 11:32 PM deb0rah UK, 10 yrs Keeper_Troublesome1 wrote: During every day life, with work commitments, family life etc etc, my slave...Troublesome1/474-435-121 gets frustrated at not being able to be the 24/7 slave that she wants to be..I too feel that at times I am letting my slave down by not being able to keep her as a 24/7 slave and not being able to be the 24/7 Master to her that I want to be and that she yearns for so much. She desperatley wants to be a 24/7 slave and to feel that she is being kept as such, and to feel that she is serving her master totally. Do any other slaves (or TOPS) have any views on this? Do you have similar feelings? Apart from the obvious " make time for each other" answer,does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for maintaining consistancy in these situations? Keeper_Troublesome1 Acceptance.... of restrictions, of expectations and being the best you can be for each other. Communicate any feelings of inadequacy and maybe set up a pattern of achievement? Tasks that you can set that are achievable and set up a positive pattern of success vs failure and or inadequacy. Be consistent in what you demand and achieve with each other and be firm as well as loving. I think reality is a hard one to deal with and I have recently asked about it : http://www.slaveregister.com/boards/enslavement/... Dealing with reality and knowing you are obeying through the mundane, the boring and the day to day is the most important, vs the exciting concept of what we see24/7 as. I am probably not making sense really as I am struggling although getting there! Good luck anyway, Debs xx "As darkness cascades shadows frolick eagerly tormenting me so. My longing for you grows fierce, breathlessly, I await you..." Debs xx Edited 22 Aug 05, 11:35 PM by deb0rah 23 Aug 05, 12:32 AM Ancelin US, 6 yrs £ Y! i feel the same as Your slave does i want to be a 24/7 slave to my Master but i am married and so is He. I treat Him like one ask to go and do stuff how to dress ect slave381966 Keeper_Troublesome1 wrote: During every day life, with work commitments, family life etc etc, my slave...Troublesome1/474-435-121 gets frustrated at not being able to be the 24/7 slave that she wants to be..I too feel that at times I am letting my slave down by not being able to keep her as a 24/7 slave and not being able to be the 24/7 Master to her that I want to be and that she yearns for so much. She desperatley wants to be a 24/7 slave and to feel that she is being kept as such, and to feel that she is serving her master totally. Do any other slaves (or TOPS) have any views on this? Do you have similar feelings? Apart from the obvious " make time for each other" answer,does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for maintaining consistancy in these situations? Keeper_Troublesome1 Acceptance.... of restrictions, of expectations and being the best you can be for each other. Communicate any feelings of inadequacy and maybe set up a pattern of achievement? Tasks that you can set that are achievable and set up a positive pattern of success vs failure and or inadequacy. Be consistent in what you demand and achieve with each other and be firm as well as loving. I think reality is a hard one to deal with and I have recently asked about it : http://www.slaveregister.com/boards/enslavement/... Dealing with reality and knowing you are obeying through the mundane, the boring and the day to day is the most important, vs the exciting concept of what we see24/7 as. I am probably not making sense really as I am struggling although getting there! Good luck anyway, Debs xx [/quote] 23 Aug 05, 9:08 AM just_aponi 6 yrs I think this is a problem that all owners and slaves face at times. At times I fantasize about being kept locked up in a cage all the time only being let out to serve in deeply meaningful ways the reality is though that as much as my master enjoys locking me up if it were a constant thing it would become tiresome to him. Not only that but it would also probably change me as a person and probably make me a much less interesting person to own. The thing which has probably most helped me with this situation is to have rules for everyday things, (which I think is what Debs was trying to say). By having these rules it makes the slave consciously aware they are doing things for their owner by doing them in his preferred order, so gives that inner feeling a little buzz, for want of a better word. A small example could be having a cleaning rota, doing rooms on specific days. Others which have worked well for me have been small personal things (which can also be useful for breaking annoying little habits which everyone has ) for me it was things like stopping biting nails, always wearing ear rings during the day but not sleeping in them amongst many others. Of course these have to be individualistic to the person and require a bit of thought and time from the owner but once done can be helpful with the inner 'feeding' of the slave. Also it can be just as functional sometimes to take away rules that have been around for a long time. A personal example, for 3 years I was required to ask permission before visiting the toilet in my owners presence, it took me a long time to get used to this and would make me feel the ownership but eventually I got so used to it that it just became second nature and I guess in a way asked permission without giving it much thought at all. One day he decided to take away that rule which made all the thought processes that were there for a long time but dissipated with asking permission come back with not asking! It took me a long time to get used to it, it felt so alien to me and even now I still sometimes announce I am visiting the toilet with it sounding like a question to him There are lots of things which can help, it just takes a little thought and inventiveness sometimes. Hope this has helped in some way. aponi Keeper_Troublesome1 wrote: During every day life, with work commitments, family life etc etc, my slave...Troublesome1/474-435-121 gets frustrated at not being able to be the 24/7 slave that she wants to be..I too feel that at times I am letting my slave down by not being able to keep her as a 24/7 slave and not being able to be the 24/7 Master to her that I want to be and that she yearns for so much. She desperatley wants to be a 24/7 slave and to feel that she is being kept as such, and to feel that she is serving her master totally. Do any other slaves (or TOPS) have any views on this? Do you have similar feelings? Apart from the obvious " make time for each other" answer,does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for maintaining consistancy in these situations? Keeper_Troublesome1 4 Sep 05, 6:02 AM 685-575-197 CA, 6 yrs i_am_aponi wrote: I think this is a problem that all owners and slaves face at times. At times I fantasize about being kept locked up in a cage all the time only being let out to serve in deeply meaningful ways the reality is though that as much as my master enjoys locking me up if it were a constant thing it would become tiresome to him. Not only that but it would also probably change me as a person and probably make me a much less interesting person to own. The thing which has probably most helped me with this situation is to have rules for everyday things, (which I think is what Debs was trying to say). By having these rules it makes the slave consciously aware they are doing things for their owner by doing them in his preferred order, so gives that inner feeling a little buzz, for want of a better word. A small example could be having a cleaning rota, doing rooms on specific days. Others which have worked well for me have been small personal things (which can also be useful for breaking annoying little habits which everyone has ) for me it was things like stopping biting nails, always wearing ear rings during the day but not sleeping in them amongst many others. Of course these have to be individualistic to the person and require a bit of thought and time from the owner but once done can be helpful with the inner 'feeding' of the slave. Also it can be just as functional sometimes to take away rules that have been around for a long time. A personal example, for 3 years I was required to ask permission before visiting the toilet in my owners presence, it took me a long time to get used to this and would make me feel the ownership but eventually I got so used to it that it just became second nature and I guess in a way asked permission without giving it much thought at all. One day he decided to take away that rule which made all the thought processes that were there for a long time but dissipated with asking permission come back with not asking! It took me a long time to get used to it, it felt so alien to me and even now I still sometimes announce I am visiting the toilet with it sounding like a question to him There are lots of things which can help, it just takes a little thought and inventiveness sometimes. Hope this has helped in some way. aponi Keeper_Troublesome1 wrote: During every day life, with work commitments, family life etc etc, my slave...Troublesome1/474-435-121 gets frustrated at not being able to be the 24/7 slave that she wants to be..I too feel that at times I am letting my slave down by not being able to keep her as a 24/7 slave and not being able to be the 24/7 Master to her that I want to be and that she yearns for so much. She desperatley wants to be a 24/7 slave and to feel that she is being kept as such, and to feel that she is serving her master totally. Do any other slaves (or TOPS) have any views on this? Do you have similar feelings? Apart from the obvious " make time for each other" answer,does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for maintaining consistancy in these situations? Keeper_Troublesome1 there is something 2 b said about the old sayi ng absence makes the heart grow fonder,i would like 2 say it also makes a slaves desire to serve stronger,i 4 example have searched for a master who would appreciate my obediance and loyalty/servitude for 15 years and still my search continuesas very few people view it as anything more than a once and a while sex-play-thing(very dissapointing)instead of a lifestyle,or permanent relationship,ive met many people who call themselves dominant/dominatrixs,but very few(1-2%)actually appreciate the true beauty of the relationship,so my point is troublesome should be happy to have found an owner as that alome is a great achievment,and should be happy you keep him/her waiting as ultimately its our masters wishes that are primary,not our own,so troublesome..do what i do and know although we must wait,we will make our masters very happy someday,look forward 2 it,i do 4 Sep 05, 9:58 AM Masterone69 UK, 6 yrs Y! I often hear this comment that due to every day life etc etc and it sometimes makes me think others look upon what a Master/slave relationship is differently to me Firstly for me the essence of a Master/slave relationship is a state of mind for both the Master and the slave. But it is the Masters job to ritualize all aspects of his slaves life, by this I mean be it putting the rubbish out or undertaking an activity at work or buying milk at the supermarket, it is the Master job to have created an infrastructure that his slave feels that in each and every activity she is doing she is aware of her ownership. This is why I feel unless a person has a true need to be a Master you will never be able to sustain the effort thought and commitment that is required to be a full Master. To me when you first start the journey with your slave it is like throwing a stone in a pond, initially there are large ripples, and these are the the major rules and rituals that you put in place for you slave, the the ripples get smaller, and as you work with your slave, the rituals move form major areas, to smaller and smaller things that demonstrate you control, all of this is gently leading your slave to that point of internal enslavement where your slave can not have a waking thought without putting it in the context of her ownership. Further the rituals and control that you put in place as a Master can never be static they have to be dynamic and changing, so your slave does not get to the point that each activity is without though, so you have to constantly moving the goal post, that is one of the reason being a Master takes just as total a commitment and effort as you slaves. By definition what I describe above does not happen over night, and maybe there is a little of the expectation, that on first day on of the relationship you will be the perfect Master and she will be the perfect slave. Maybe harsh and a little dogmatic, but I believe there is no such thing as a bad slave, just bad Masters. MasterOne Keeper_Troublesome1 wrote: During every day life, with work commitments, family life etc etc, my slave...Troublesome1/474-435-121 gets frustrated at not being able to be the 24/7 slave that she wants to be..I too feel that at times I am letting my slave down by not being able to keep her as a 24/7 slave and not being able to be the 24/7 Master to her that I want to be and that she yearns for so much. She desperatley wants to be a 24/7 slave and to feel that she is being kept as such, and to feel that she is serving her master totally. Do any other slaves (or TOPS) have any views on this? Do you have similar feelings? Apart from the obvious " make time for each other" answer,does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for maintaining consistancy in these situations? Keeper_Troublesome1 4 Sep 05, 2:04 PM slavejanet US, 6 yrs Keeper_Troublesome1 wrote: During every day life, with work commitments, family life etc etc, my slave...Troublesome1/474-435-121 gets frustrated at not being able to be the 24/7 slave that she wants to be..I too feel that at times I am letting my slave down by not being able to keep her as a 24/7 slave and not being able to be the 24/7 Master to her that I want to be and that she yearns for so much. She desperatley wants to be a 24/7 slave and to feel that she is being kept as such, and to feel that she is serving her master totally. Do any other slaves (or TOPS) have any views on this? Do you have similar feelings? Apart from the obvious " make time for each other" answer,does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for maintaining consistancy in these situations? Keeper_Troublesome1 TO Master and troublesome 1 My Master and I do not live together. We live 100 miles apart. I long to be his 24/7 and feel that it will be forthcoming. However, I do feel the frustration at times. Master is very patient with me and has assigned me tasks to complete everyday. I dare not do them for fear of his punishment. He is very firm but exeptionally fair. He often changes the rules for me and it keeps me fresh. His absence makes me want to serve him to perfection. I try to anticipate his needs before he even knows them. I work extra hard to make myself more pleasing to him. Troublesome 1 you should be grateful you have found a Master that would even care enough to post here. Do not rail against what you have. There are not perfect situations out there. Perfection comes from serving your Master and finding peace and happiness in your servitude and self. 7 Dec 05, 5:57 PM 798-955-220 US, 6 yrs £ Y! Keeper_Troublesome1 wrote: During every day life, with work commitments, family life etc etc, my slave...Troublesome1/474-435-121 gets frustrated at not being able to be the 24/7 slave that she wants to be..I too feel that at times I am letting my slave down by not being able to keep her as a 24/7 slave and not being able to be the 24/7 Master to her that I want to be and that she yearns for so much. She desperatley wants to be a 24/7 slave and to feel that she is being kept as such, and to feel that she is serving her master totally. Do any other slaves (or TOPS) have any views on this? Do you have similar feelings? Apart from the obvious " make time for each other" answer,does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for maintaining consistancy in these situations? Keeper_Troublesome1 i have a different view on this than other posts here, something for you both to consider. i am fortunate enough to live with my Owner 24/7 and i only work part time. i love the life that i have. However, being with Him is like a full time job for us both. It is a lot of fun and it is wonderful but it is also exhausting, time consuming and extremely intense. From the moment i wake up to the moment i go to sleep, my every waking second is devoted to what he wants me to do. Going to my part-time job feels like a vacation to me. i am not complaining in the least, but there is an aspect to living togather and being a full time slave that most people overlook. It is HARD WORK at least for me and although i adore my Owner and my life, it is not easy always. i imagine that the same is also true for Him since i am always around and he is always responsible for me. i have heard some people describe what is called "Dominant Drop" which basically happens when the Dominant is spending so much time in the Dominant headspace (which requires a lot of energy and focus from what i understand) that they burn out from exhaustion. My Owner/Daddy sleeps 4-5 hours a night ONLY on average and is busy, busy, busy all of the rest of the time. So while i love living with him and would wish it for every Owner and slave in the world who wanted it for themselves, just know that it has it's own set of challenges too.