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	TSR : Web boards : Internal Enslavement : "Introductions" 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Introductions (93) This topic is now full - if you want to reply, please make a new post on the board itself. This post is on the Internal Enslavement web board. 17 Jul 05, 8:31 AM lili UK, 11 yrs Y! Tanos wrote: Let's try to get the ball rolling ... i always find introductions a little difficult, but luckily enough for me Tanos has already posted an introduction so i'm going to make mine a short one. i'm lili (previously lianne) and entered service with Tanos just over 5 years ago. There are already a few of you i've had the pleasure of meeting (some one line and others in person) and i must say its great to see so many people i recognise from the old enslavement list here already. i was interested to see Carolyn touch upon the inevitability of "burn out" from exposure to the public community in her introduction. In many ways i can empathise deeply with that. Tanos and i have been though a number of similar phases and i know that it was one of the drivers both for us taking time away from the enslavement list and, indeed, attempting to re-establish a place where we can talk about ownership with people that have a real interest in it again (outside of them merely wanting to prove that it is impossible to do in reality). For a time i really didn't miss being able to talk about enslavement. i guess i got really jaded with the same old "you have legs so of course you can walk away" arguements. In the end it was just easier to use my legs to walk away from them and get on with the reality of being Tanos's property safely surrounded by the rest of his belongings However, things never stay the same and slowly but surely i started to remember that there were people and conversations that i really do miss. i was lucky enough, recently, to accompany Tanos on a trip to New York. Of course he had planned the trip to coincide with lots of BDSM events, including "Folsham street east", the leather pride weekend, one of the TES meetings and a talk be Gloria Brame at Paddles. Needless to say we had a wonderful week (not least of all because i had 7 days of uninterrupted Tanos, which rarely happens but is wonderful when it does!) Something Gloria Brame said really struck home with me. She spoke of the fact that many people who are in successful BDSM relationships (and she wasn't just speaking of M/s relationships) do not remain in the public arena for very long and hence there are few who can share their experiences of longevity with others who may seek it. "How true" i thought as i tried to rack my brains to think of anyone i know or indeed knew who would fulfil that category. It's nice to see a few of those people here. Its also great to see people who have a real interest in ownership here too. i hope we can encourage some of the great conversations here again. There's alot of changes that i know Tanos and i have been through over the past couple of years i'd like to share. For now, i guess i'd best stop typing (i think i'm very near taking up a whole page all by myself!) lili x It's coming....Kinklusive Edited 17 Jul 05, 8:41 AM by lili 17 Jul 05, 1:16 PM Yarakot 6 yrs ukknights_lady wrote: I am committed to a theatre class I teach and a dance class and I put on one charity production a year which ends up fab but a migraine follows and I am involved with local groups who produce shows. I also sing professionally in a group that do weddings, parties etc. I volunteer to help in the local school for 2 days a week. So, amongst all that we live as close to out ideal as we can. I was a professional theatre person (starlight express etc ) before becoming a management consultant for gemini in london. Hi Debs, It is a delight to meet you. I am having a question that I am desperately hoping you can answer since it's not one I can really ask others for help with (not that I haven't tried). I'm owned and have been for quite a while. Rituals to remind me of my status are part of my life and occur when I am with my owner and in private as well. Silently voiced, ritualized phrases are part of my meditation, part of the beginning of each meal, part of my yoga practice at the beginning and at the end. There is not question or problem that I answer without first asking myself, "What would he have me do? What would please him most of these options?" The idea is to keep my mind on a relatively even keel amid the cognitive dissonance that occurs in any M/s life. It seems to work in most situations. About a year and a half ago I began taking bellydance classes. At the time, my teacher would say, "When you do this, think like this:: "I'm so beautiful. Don't you want me? You can't have me. See look at me. You will never have me. Burn with hopeless desire." She would explain that the dance was meant as a tease and it was important to draw power from denying male desires as you inflame them. (I am sugar-coating her words to some extent.) The first time she did this I tried to follow directions but quickly lost all memory of the steps as my mind went into overdrive explaining that I am property and not permitted to withold anything from my owner or anyone he designates. Eventuallly I learned to tune out the commentary from my teacher (which was awfully anti-male anyway) and just do the steps. But this means that I don't emote correctly in these sort of dances. I asked other dancers I admire how they think when they dance and the ones who were able to explain things at all said that they draw their power from the music and the dance and become a different person, a bewitching, enticing tease. One has created an entirely different person and pretends that she is a gypsy pirate wench when she dances. I am learning bellydance at my owner's direction. My practice sessions are all dedicated (in that peculiar mantra way of mine) to him. (And I suspect that I would never practice if I weren't required to. I would do yoga instead.) I find it difficult to be anything other than what I am and I am somewhat reluctant to reprogram my brain with wrong thoughts, since I suspect that the hope that they will stay in the bellydance room is probably futile. My current (and better) teacher says that I must find the emotions from inside myself and the music and that journaling will help. I have journaled and journaled and danced and danced and I am no closer. (Though I have found joy and am reliably able to project that when I dance.) It's not like teasing portions will go away from bellydance. They seem pretty integral to me. Have you any suggestions? Thank you! Carolyn 17 Jul 05, 11:17 PM x_tied_x UK, 7 yrs Hi im terrible at this sort of introduction, so here it goes! im 22, female and very submissive. I crave total control and ownership, but finding it bloody hard to find anyone with the knowledge, desire or commitment to make me theirs and own me completely. i desire total control, rather than just kinky sex and am getting to the point where i no longer believe that what im looking for even exisits! jess x 18 Jul 05, 2:11 AM EvilTwin UK, 7 yrs Tanos wrote: Let's try to get the ball rolling with some introductions ... Okay. Call this a part of the Canadian contingent. I am a middle aged male slave owner. I have and only require one slave to serve me. My slave is duly registered here. I have had my present slave for about five years. I am here because I have accepted the invitation from Tanos. I have always appreciated his efforts and hope they continue. 18 Jul 05, 11:20 AM concubine UK, 8 yrs Hi, I'm a submissive, aged 26, from London. I've had submissive fantacies from since my early teens. They had a stong orientalist element to them, like being a slave concubine to the Chinese or Japanes Emperor (hence the nick I chose). I first got into the scene when I was 18 but I didn't realy feel comfortable with alot of what was going on in the mainsrteam BDSM scene cos it wasn't realy meeting my needs. It wasn't untill a couple of years ago when I came across the Internal Enslavement website that I realised I had found my niche(thanks Tanos ). I now run a Munch/disscussion group for 24/7 D/s in London once a month. I reciently met I Dom but the relationship is still very munch in its infancy so I dont want to say too much about that incase I curse it lol. concubine MiLLiTAnt dYsLExiC -Kant sPeEl woNt SpEeL 18 Jul 05, 7:47 PM lili UK, 11 yrs Y! Yarakot wrote: My current (and better) teacher says that I must find the emotions from inside myself and the music and that journaling will help. Hi Carolyn, i know this question wasn't directed at me (and i'd be really interested in hearing what debs thoughts are on this question) but i was really interested (and somewhat suprised) about your account of your dance tutor's instruction. For a while i took belly dance classes too and i always found it an extremely erotic thing to do. Perhaps my instructor wasn't quite as thorough as yours. My instructor was a lady in her 60s and she was a shining example of what female hormones can do for a person (she had more energy and flexibility than most of the 20 years olds in the class). Rather than promote the dance as a "tease" (which it may very well have been originally) she promoted as a celebration of being a woman far more akin to look what a beautiful, sexy woman i am rather than look but don't you dare touch. Perhaps it may help to view your dance more as an opportunity to "display" and celebrate what wonderful, sensual property you are rather than focussing on the dance being a tease? Just a thought, lili It's coming....Kinklusive 18 Jul 05, 11:56 PM Bbdspls UK, 7 yrs Hi from me, Bbdspls, crossing over from IC to have a look because I'm nosey! Also known as pls or prettylittleslut/prettylittlehoe, depending on the humour of my Owner, Fourquinelle. Don't expect an awful lot of intelligent, experienced input from myself as I am currently in my first & I hope only, D/s relationship. However, I do try. (Tanos will vouch for the fact that I can be very trying! Lol!) Personal philosophy regarding submission? Well, you don't hand out your family heirlooms to just anyone, do you? The submission my Owner enjoys took him a long while to wheedle out of me. At the end of the day, it was all about those old chestnuts Respect, Trust, Faith. He's earned & deserved everything he's taken from me, even though at times he's had a bit of a fight on his hands! Pls don't submit easily & is often still very afraid of what that means for her. It's work in progress, that I hope contributing & listening to others here will help me with. Best Wishes to All pls x 19 Jul 05, 7:12 PM ulaidh UK, 11 yrs Tanos wrote: Let's try to get the ball rolling with some introductions ... Heading towards mid forties (how time flies!)and still not yet learnt the art of being concise and to the point. Like others who have been around (cough) a number of years there have been many changes in my life, good, bad an traumatic at times, which included the end of a long term relationship, which though not "hostile" in any way left me somewhat in a wilderness and closing up shop and shutting myself away and with the wonderful benefit of hindsght can say how badly i coped. Finally moved on and though re-defined 'reactance' in the process (some two years now)Although another LTR (must be a sucker for punishement lol) it is short term in the longer term (what a contradiction but hopefully you'll know what i mean) FOr which I need (and want) to say thank you to Tanos, as it was through the old Master/slave site that Master and i first met As lili said in her introduction, there comes a point when you feel you are arguing/discussing the same old chestnuts with those people whose minds seem unable to comprehend the concept of enslavement to the point that the next time someone asks "What if your Master asked you to kill someone" i was in danger of saying "Cheerfully if it is you He selects". Great to have a forum again 19 Jul 05, 8:22 PM kethry 8 yrs ulaidh wrote: As lili said in her introduction, there comes a point when you feel you are arguing/discussing the same old chestnuts with those people whose minds seem unable to comprehend the concept of enslavement to the point that the next time someone asks "What if your Master asked you to kill someone" i was in danger of saying "Cheerfully if it is you He selects". ooooooooooooooh good answer.. *makes note of that for the next time someone asks that.. * welcome to the forums!! *huggsss* kethry{BP}/ke'chara{BP} xx 20 Jul 05, 8:19 PM danaewhispering US(CO), 8 yrs Y! Tanos wrote: Let's try to get the ball rolling with some introductions ... I live in Western Colorado in the USA. I am a slave in a 24/7 service oriented relationship. We have been together for a little over 2 years. I have been "into" BDSM basically since I was 16. I am now 37. I have had 4 significant D/s relationships before my Owner plus bottomed and served without being owned over the years. My first significant M/s relationship was when I was 18. I am now in a relationship that has fulfilled me like no other. If you want to learn more about me or the relationship I am in...please feel free to check out our website.... http://www.withinreality.com and my online journal.... http://danaewhispering.blogspot.com Look forward to the discussions! ~ danae Next page