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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Masters saying sorry" 1 2 3 4 Masters saying sorry (32) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Wed 8 Feb 12, 6:24 PM Vikingmaster US(OK), 4 mths Y! If a Master has wrongfully accused His sub/or slave and is proven to be wrong should the Master say sorry? I have talked to a couple of Masters I know and They say no They do not say sorry or apologize. so I thought I would ask the question here to get answers from anyone, Master or slave. any opinion would be greatly appreciated. 8 Feb 12, 6:39 PM Daddyz_lil_princess US(NY), 4 mths Sir, i am very fortunate to have a very loving respectful , yet firm Master. If He were wrong, and has been once, He did appoligize. It in my opinion gives me that much more respect fir Him that He loves ans cherishes me in that way. Thus, making me want to please Him more and more... This is of couse only the opinion of a submissive, only because Master does want me to have options and opinions, and prefers the term submissive to slave, yet I don't ever say no. i am in all actuality a slave to Him tho, just not called one! 8 Feb 12, 6:40 PM Lord_Uther UK, 6 yrs IMO yes, it's about integrity. It's about trust. Admitting you were wrong helps your slave to know that you are constantly assessing yourself and the situation around you. That if you make a mistake that you will adjust to that and that their interests are as safe as they can be in your hands. Slaves I have owned in the past have been comforted when I have apologised for a mistake that I have made and has strengthened the bond that we had. I have found that it humbles them to be apologised to. I have also taken the step to recompense them if the situation warranted, buy them a treat or even a get out of jail free card My name is Lord Uther, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair! 8 Feb 12, 7:08 PM 470-772-848 UK, 4 yrs Personally...if I met someone who was not willing to apologise if they were in the wrong..they would not be much of a person let alone a Dom/me. Making mistakes is part of life, being the bigger person and admitting you are wrong and being able to say sorry shows that you have compassion and are always learning and assessing your life and the things around you. Being a Master/Mistress etc does not exempt a person from these qualities....after all they are a person first and foremost...same as subs/slaves jxx 8 Feb 12, 7:59 PM Pet_Girl US, 14 mths I agree with everyone who has posted so far. In my opinion, it takes much more strength to apologize for something you've done wrong. A lot of people would rather shift blame or bury that they were indeed the one in the wrong which is just, in my opinion, weakness and an inability to take responsibility. Masters and Mistresses are supposed to be the ultimate leader which means strength and responsibility. That doesn't mean they can't have moments where they are in the wrong, it means they take responsibility for those moments which means apologizing and making things right. As a minor caveat, I say they need strength, that doesn't mean no emotions or only the "strong" emotions. Now I don't know the situation, so I don't know if this is applicable to your specific situation or not, but it's an important point in my opinion. But basically, if you were hurt and that's why you accused her, then say that, it's strength to own your emotions even if they are "weak" ones like hurt or fear and the like. 8 Feb 12, 9:02 PM SnowdropExplodes UK, 7 yrs Y! I always have and always will. If I have a slave, then zie is a person under my protection and has to know that I will recognise and own any mistakes I have made and put them right. An apology is an important part of showing that I have the necessary appreciation for what it means to be an owner. Others have phrased this in terms of trust and being able to respect a Master, and I am inclined to agree with that way of framing it. No one is perfect. Dealing honourably with our own failings is vital. 8 Feb 12, 9:05 PM Vikingmaster US(OK), 4 mths Y! thank you I fully agree with everyone and I do believe I should apologize and they are important. as I said Masters I know say not to it shows weakness, I disagree with this but wanted to check if I was missing something in My thought and experience as a Master. once again thank you for your responses Viking Master 8 Feb 12, 10:40 PM mastersgirl3 US, 5 mths my Master has said sorry to me. i guess it is what type of person the Master/Mistress is. It is like a parent apologizing for accusing their child of something... i believe many Dom/subs can relate to that. 8 Feb 12, 11:13 PM Mistress_Rebekah CA, 10 mths Y! Just because you are someone's Master does not mean that you or your slave aren't human beings. There are just certain things that we, as human beings - forgetting all of our "titles - should/should not do. Apologies suck. I try at all costs not to do something now for which I may need to apologize later. That said... I'm human and I screw up. I always apologize if I am in the wrong. It's just basic, common decency. I don't know what "Masters" you got your previous advice from, but I would seriously reconsider allowing them to mentor you. I hope, on a go-forward basis, that you will at least question and evaluate the advice you receive from them. But, that's just my opinion. M. Rebekah 8 Feb 12, 11:28 PM Master_Odin US(KS), 3 yrs Vikingmaster wrote: Masters saying sorry If a Master has wrongfully accused His sub/or slave and is proven to be wrong should the Master say sorry? I have talked to a couple of Masters I know and They say no They do not say sorry or apologize. so I thought I would ask the question here to get answers from anyone, Master or slave. any opinion would be greatly appreciated. There is (or can be) a difference between acknowledging that one was mistaken and apologizing. Acknowledging a mistake would seem prudent, whether or not one 'needs' to apologize to a slave would seem to me to be style matter between the M and s. My personal code is that how I treat others is based on who I am, not who they are. When I am wrong I apologize. The matter of whom I have wronged doesn't come into play, be they friends, slaves or subs. I have even been known to let out a “please” and “thank you” to a slave/sub when the spirit moves me. <selah> There is no authority, only responsibility. 8 Feb 12, 11:29 PM pet_ka_MJ CA, 2 yrs I would have zero... nadda.... nil... zip... no respect for anyone who could not admit a mistake they have made and then take responsibility for it. It does not lessen you as a person in authority to acknowledge your mistakes and then do the right thing by them... in fact, it is a sign of maturity. If our mistakes are supposed to provide opportunities for personal growth, then to not acknowledge or do the right thing by our mistakes is to deny ourselves this opportunity. We all make mistakes, it is part and parcel of being human. As an old boss once told me... the only people who don't make mistakes, are the people who don't do anything. In my opinion, if the person in authority cannot see this they have no business being in authority in the first place. 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