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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Love: Enhancer or...?" 1 2 Love: Enhancer or...? (16) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 2 Feb 12, 6:34 PM 333-528-841 CA, 3 yrs Master and I met to see if we were suitable for each other in this lifestyle. We did not know each other, I had answered an ad, he replied, there was one text and we met. Over time, as we got to know each other, love surfaced. So yes it is possible to serve without love. I feel that love does enhance the service and submission, it's kind of like the icing on the cake. Have a great day all. Disclaimer: My thoughts and writing style may differ from yours. I take no responsibility for your perception. Read at your own risk. 333-528-841 Life shouldn't be measured by the breaths you take; but by the moments that take your breath away - unknown 2 Feb 12, 8:54 PM SL_precious CA, 3 yrs So as to not be distracted by other replies, in answer to the OP... No, I do not feel that love has gotten in the way. If anything it has enhanced my submission.  I do what I do for my Master not only out of love but because it is not my nature to deny him.  I don't think that I have a so called desire to serve... It has frustrated me in past relationships actually....for most of my life I have wished I was less submissive... People have taken advantage of me because It is difficult for me to say no, to disappoint or to feel that something I have done or failed to do has angered someone.  I was married to a man who was in no way a Dom, however he could be an emotional bully. For many years I was unable to do what I knew was right because of pressure he put on me to do things his way.  I did not do it for love or desire to serve, I did it to keep peace and because I couldn't muster up the strength to refuse.  Eventually it destroyed the marriage. The difference now is that with Master, doing what he asks is easy, there is nothing I would not do for him because I know that above all else our relationship is the most important thing to him. He never makes a decision in haste, I can trust that in the end what he wants is what is best for me and our family.  I submit out of love, trust and respect.  I am so grateful to be owned and loved by someone who understands my nature and uses it but never abuses it. precious "Amazing what happens when we let go, surrender all and embrace the painful changes that are necessary to bring wholeness, and a brighter tomorrow." Suzanne Sondberg 2 Feb 12, 9:06 PM 766-003-205 US(CA), 11 mths Y! OphiUchUS_Master wrote: I trade slaves with my twin and she serves me better then she does him & she doesn't love me! So it all depends, love doesn't fit in all situations! Not to be a downer but people are usually are on their best behavior when something is temporary even with love involved elsewhere. When we would fight and had to go to work or spend time with a friend etc, we both would "cheer up" and be most solicitous. i could easily do things for others in a temporary situation- image to keep up, you know. 3 Feb 12, 1:21 AM mastersgirl3 US, 5 mths i LOVE my Master, but with how i became his slave allows me to say i serve him because of my desire to serve him. i loved him for years before i had the desire to serve as his slave. i trust him to be my Master because i love him. 3 Feb 12, 8:54 AM Prolixitys_Saphira US, 16 mths I am not a natural-born sub. I am not the type who needs to be serving someone and I never really felt the need to until I ran into Prolixity. Without that need to serve, there did need to be some kind of emotional bond to him otherwise there would be nothing keeping me in the relationship. The first time he made me do something I didn't want to do, it would have been "Ok, see you," and that would have been that. Love makes me want to stay and makes me want to be submissive to him like I've never been to any other man out there. So, personally I need that emotional bond, but I do not believe it applies in all cases and could probably destroy the M/s portion of some relationships if the M gave too much weight to love and not enough to being dominant. Owned, loved and protected by Prolixity. 3 Feb 12, 9:43 PM pet_ka_MJ CA, 2 yrs Prolixitys_Saphira wrote: I am not a natural-born sub. I am not the type who needs to be serving someone and I never really felt the need to until I ran into Prolixity. Without that need to serve, there did need to be some kind of emotional bond to him otherwise there would be nothing keeping me in the relationship. The first time he made me do something I didn't want to do, it would have been "Ok, see you," and that would have been that. Love makes me want to stay and makes me want to be submissive to him like I've never been to any other man out there. So, personally I need that emotional bond, but I do not believe it applies in all cases and could probably destroy the M/s portion of some relationships if the M gave too much weight to love and not enough to being dominant. That is pretty much how it is for me as well. I did not love my first Master, and when I finally had enough I left without so much as a backwards glance. There was no emotional bond driving me or holding me there to try and make things work. With my current Master (and husband), there is love and this intense emotional bond drives me and holds me here and compels me to make things work. "We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. The old skin must be shed before a new one can come." ~ Joseph Campbell