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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Tips for mental disorders with the lifestyle" 1 2 Tips for mental disorders with the lifestyle (17) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Wed 11 Jan 12, 8:11 AM ChaosxSeduction US(CA), 2 yrs Y! I am diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder and depression. I am starting a new regiment of meds for my depression and will be taking some for my anxiety soon, but in the mean time, does anyone know how I can deal with my anxiety and still fulfill my duty as a submissive. (Cleaning, cooking etc) Keep in mind that my anxiety is very severe, and it causes panic sensations, such as shakiness, dizziness, feeling of my throat closing, tingling in the hands and feet (hyperventilation) etc. 11 Jan 12, 9:34 AM zaq_90 IT, 5 mths Uhm ... do you know something about PNL? Neuro Linguistic Programming (you can search it on wikipedia if u want more general informations). There are various applications for this approach (fast learning and memory tecniques, mental maps etc). Ok it can seem to be stupid stuff... but I'm used to use these tecniques and these really works (a stupid application is to memorize 30 numbers in 1 minutes or less) One of these is the "Mental Anchor" ... I'm not an anxious person so i don't use it but I have some colleagues who find it very useful... How does it work? It's simple: 1- You have to sit on a sofa or an armchair (that is important that you are comfortable becouse you shouldn't move for 15/20 minutes) and put on some peacful music. 2- Now, link your thumbs to your forefingers (like a yoga position XD) - Close your eyes, hereafter you will keep your eyes closed, deep-breathing and fingers linked. 3- Now relax your body. First focalize on you feet and relax each muscles starting from your feets to your head, you have to be sure to contract and relax all your muscles. 4- Well ... now your body should be relaxed, now your mind: Keep always your eyes closed. Now you picture in your mind to be in peacful place (eachone prefers different setting, next to a waterfall, on a beach etc.). 5- Now you have to fill your mind with the first coldest color of rainbow than image all the other colors in this order: violet - indigo - blue - green - yellow - orange - red. (remeber: deep-breathing. 6- Now you should be perfectly relaxed. 7- Good, stay in this situation for some minutes and focalize on the link of your fingers. 8- Now separate your fingers, but mantein your eyes closed. 9- Starting from the red to the violet picture in your mind the same colors imagined before. Take the last deepest breath that you can. 10- Now... open your eyes. All this process should take 15 minutes so do it slowly. Good. This exercise should be done 4 times for week for 4/6 weeks. The "Mental Anchor" is the link between your fingers, when you will feel the need to relax yourself simply link again your finger in the same way that you are used to do in the excercise ... it will take you automatically in the mental situation of the point number 6. Now the last 2 things: 1- Sorry for the grammar mistakes that i did XD 2- You can think that this tecnique really work or not ... I suggest you to try it, it would take just 1 hours for week (15+15+15+15) ... if this shouldn't work youl would "lost" 4 or 6 hours of your life (but if these work it could get better your whole life) ^^ Best Wishes Edited 11 Jan 12, 9:38 AM by zaq_90 11 Jan 12, 9:57 AM 822-492-813 US(KY), 17 mths Hello, I have panic disorder which is very similar. What you have but less often and more intense. I am helped by keeping my blood sugar even. By that I mean well rounded meals and always having some juice in the fridge. Almost like a faux diabetic. More protien and somewhat less carbs. I also seem to feel better after strenuos exercise. The endorphin rush you can get from play and from doing things like yard work seems to be like an extra bit of the meds. My Dr. suggested in my case to face what triggers the attack with someone I trust and in the mentally safest way I can. He said that we can condition ourselves to be less anxious by having successful interaction with the things that make us tense. I hope that is of some help. I am available if you would like to talk about it more via memo. Peace 822-492-813 11 Jan 12, 10:53 AM slave_emma US(OK), 6 yrs Y! I think you and your Master need to talk about what sort of expectations your Master has of you during your time of recovery. If you expect too much of yourself, you are setting yourself up for failure and that can make your symptoms worse. If the two of you set small goals for housework and cooking, as the medication works into your system then you can see how you are making progress. Instead of aiming for a spotless house, aim for something smaller like doing a load of laundry but not having to folding it. Breaking up your chores into small steps, may also help. I am always an advocate for outside counseling, if needed, so having a kink friendly counselor for the two of you to talk to together during your recovery on a weekly or bi-weekly basis may help. It would allow the two of you to make sure you are on the same page and are both understanding this process. This also helps to keep the lines of communication open. I know when I have had depression issues the past I tend to not communicate as well. Good luck with your recovery. Best wishes, slave emma Master Howard's little girl 11 Jan 12, 3:12 PM Prolixitys_Saphira US, 16 mths For me, predictability helps cut down on anxiety. I'm trying my best right now not to freak out because I'm in a new place with a new routine and searching for a new job. Once I get myself settled in with a new schedule and the surprises quit coming on a regular basis, I'll be better settled and less anxious. If you are like me and cope better in a calm, predictable environment, it might help if you make a schedule for yourself so you are not constantly being bombarded by the unknown and possibly unpleasant that could trigger panic attacks. Owned, loved and protected by Prolixity. 11 Jan 12, 4:46 PM naughtyslave US, 2 yrs You poor thing...anxiety is very hard to control. i was diagnosed with 1) anxiety disorder 2) panic disorder 3) being a hypercondriac...these three combined have made my life a living hell at times. It has been so bad that i cannot read warning labels on meds..i cannot watch shows such as ER or commercials describing symptoms of heart attacks and so on...i know exactly how you are feeling and it is terrible. After my dad passed away this controlled my life. it became so out of control i would rip my kids out of bed in a dead sleep to go to where i felt safe because i knew i was going to die... i cannot take meds on a daily basis because the side effects mess with at least one of the disorders which will inturn bring out all three. i was lucky enough to have a gyno that didnt have her head up her ass and she gave me xanex. One of those will knock down the anxiety back into a place where it can be controlled.i do not take these three times a day as she wanted me to...i only use them for emergency when i can no longer control my own mind. i remember when it was at it's all time high i could not do housework because the more i moved around..the more i was convinced i would have a heart attack..which is ridiculous but that is what the three evils will convince you of. When i was able to function again..i started paying attention to triggers. This is important in learning to live with the disorder. Triggers such as people who caused stress in my life (now removed) too much partying...too much coffee, not enough sleep,things of this nature. i learned to trick my mind that i am healthy. i had to use logic to fight away attacks. Also my children know that when momma isn't feeling good to brush my hair...this causes relaxing. Or at your sons age..give him a car to drive on you. Get your mind away from the physical symptoms and focus HARD on something else. i have learned to live with the anxiety on the back burner of everyday...i am in a constant fight to keep it there and not let it surface. your mind is a powerful thing..if you can learn how to control the triggers life will be easier..although i was told meds will help, they are only a bandaid for the problem. They suggest to seek therapy. i went to one session and they asked about my dad...i couldn't go back. Also after childbirth it seems to flare up because of changes in your body and chemistry. So maybe if you havent always suffered from this..maybe in a year or so it will fade away. ohhhh also the Depo shot is horrific in promoting these disorders. Taking the vitamins B complex will help with the disorder as well...get as much of vitamin B as you can through pills and food. There are two things that you can get over the counter at wal mart for it as well. one being melatonin and the other St.Johns wort..both of these helped my family through some very rough times. i have never suffered with depression thank god as i have enough i do suffer with, but the drugs for anxiety and depression go hand in hand. It has been almost a year now i have it completely controlled (knock on wood) just knowing i have the xanex in the house is the main thing that helps..even if i dont take it i find comfort in knowing it's here. One of the things that has helped me when i feel it coming on is to kneel naked in the bathroom and slowly breath in and out repeating things in my mind about being a submissive..sounds silly but it truly calms me down when i feel too much stress or drama. i will do what ever it takes not to let those things take me on the terrible roller coaster ride of an attack. i don't know if any of these things will help you..but i wanted to tell you..i am so very sorry you are suffering with this. Anxiety disorder is so out of control and scary. It really is a nightmare when you have it. i hope that meds make you feel better and you can start to function again as normal. i also wanted you to know you are not alone. So many people do not understand it. They think that you cause the attacks yourself by thinking of things that trigger it.They do not understand that it is a chemical imbalance..that you dont have to think of things..it creeps up and kicks your ass no matter what you are doing.i felt so alone when it was out of control and would cry my eyes out because i just wanted to be normal....i have learned to deal with it and accept me with all my fears. i hope you have a great support system to help you through this. i found this page and thought i would leave you the link to read. i of course could only skim through it because i do not want to trigger anything good luck... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anxiety_disorder Take care, His naughtyslave 11 Jan 12, 10:19 PM ChaosxSeduction US(CA), 2 yrs Y! naughtyslave wrote: You poor thing...anxiety is very hard to control. i was diagnosed with 1) anxiety disorder 2) panic disorder 3) being a hypercondriac...these three combined have made my life a living hell at times. It has been so bad that i cannot read warning labels on meds..i cannot watch shows such as ER or commercials describing symptoms of heart attacks and so on...i know exactly how you are feeling and it is terrible. After my dad passed away this controlled my life. it became so out of control i would rip my kids out of bed in a dead sleep to go to where i felt safe because i knew i was going to die... i cannot take meds on a daily basis because the side effects mess with at least one of the disorders which will inturn bring out all three. i was lucky enough to have a gyno that didnt have her head up her ass and she gave me xanex. One of those will knock down the anxiety back into a place where it can be controlled.i do not take these three times a day as she wanted me to...i only use them for emergency when i can no longer control my own mind. i remember when it was at it's all time high i could not do housework because the more i moved around..the more i was convinced i would have a heart attack..which is ridiculous but that is what the three evils will convince you of. When i was able to function again..i started paying attention to triggers. This is important in learning to live with the disorder. Triggers such as people who caused stress in my life (now removed) too much partying...too much coffee, not enough sleep,things of this nature. i learned to trick my mind that i am healthy. i had to use logic to fight away attacks. Also my children know that when momma isn't feeling good to brush my hair...this causes relaxing. Or at your sons age..give him a car to drive on you. Get your mind away from the physical symptoms and focus HARD on something else. i have learned to live with the anxiety on the back burner of everyday...i am in a constant fight to keep it there and not let it surface. your mind is a powerful thing..if you can learn how to control the triggers life will be easier..although i was told meds will help, they are only a bandaid for the problem. They suggest to seek therapy. i went to one session and they asked about my dad...i couldn't go back. Also after childbirth it seems to flare up because of changes in your body and chemistry. So maybe if you havent always suffered from this..maybe in a year or so it will fade away. ohhhh also the Depo shot is horrific in promoting these disorders. Taking the vitamins B complex will help with the disorder as well...get as much of vitamin B as you can through pills and food. There are two things that you can get over the counter at wal mart for it as well. one being melatonin and the other St.Johns wort..both of these helped my family through some very rough times. i have never suffered with depression thank god as i have enough i do suffer with, but the drugs for anxiety and depression go hand in hand. It has been almost a year now i have it completely controlled (knock on wood) just knowing i have the xanex in the house is the main thing that helps..even if i dont take it i find comfort in knowing it's here. One of the things that has helped me when i feel it coming on is to kneel naked in the bathroom and slowly breath in and out repeating things in my mind about being a submissive..sounds silly but it truly calms me down when i feel too much stress or drama. i will do what ever it takes not to let those things take me on the terrible roller coaster ride of an attack. i don't know if any of these things will help you..but i wanted to tell you..i am so very sorry you are suffering with this. Anxiety disorder is so out of control and scary. It really is a nightmare when you have it. i hope that meds make you feel better and you can start to function again as normal. i also wanted you to know you are not alone. So many people do not understand it. They think that you cause the attacks yourself by thinking of things that trigger it.They do not understand that it is a chemical imbalance..that you dont have to think of things..it creeps up and kicks your ass no matter what you are doing.i felt so alone when it was out of control and would cry my eyes out because i just wanted to be normal....i have learned to deal with it and accept me with all my fears. i hope you have a great support system to help you through this. i found this page and thought i would leave you the link to read. i of course could only skim through it because i do not want to trigger anything good luck... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anxiety_disorder Thank you so much. I wanted to cry as I read this. I have never really talked to anyone who was going through the same thing that I go through in such great depth. I have a illness phobia, which is sort of like hypochondria, but instead of knowing I have something it's more like "Do you think I have...? Are you sure I don't have...?" And if I talk to a doctor or nurse I am instantly relived when they tell me I don't. But the fear is what really gets me. Sometimes it will just start out as a general anxiety attack, and then my mind has to rationalize it. "Why am I panicking? Well there is this reason, and this reason.." I have been afraid of heart attacks, brain tumors, anyurisms, blood clots, stroke, alien attack (don't laugh), a astorid crashing to earth, a black hole devouring the earth (Again, don't laugh), being stabbed through a wall when it faced the outside on a second story, being shot from a stray bullet in my house. Or any loud booming sound. Just talking about it kind of freaks me out. Good thing I'm taking my meds today. Medication has always helped me, and excersise does also help. Thank you. Really, you made me feel a lot better about being crazy. It's hard, it really is. I was off my meds for a few months and I could not even enjoy life because I was constantly afraid of one thing or another. But hopefully things are looking up from here. Thank you to everyone who responded. 11 Jan 12, 10:42 PM naughtyslave US, 2 yrs Your list is my list...headache=brain tumor and so on...and yes i feel better as well when they tell me i am ok. hate the doctors that after being told be very careful what you tell me or i might end up staying here..still tell me my bp is high...of course it is..its the three evils. i am glad your meds help you. i quit after a year and it freaked them out..but i cant handle them. If you ever want to chat...leave me a message and i will give you my im so that you do not feel alone. huge hugs to you and wishing you a peaceful day! Take care, His naughtyslave 11 Jan 12, 11:30 PM 411-447-262 US(WA), 6 mths I myself suffer from agoraphobia brought on by Anxiety and PTSD. So, I understand your worries and thoughts. Luckily Master and I talk about it a lot and he has learned to understand it and be very supportive. Which since the majority of all my duties are done inside the agoraphobia isn't so bad. But when we go out I tend to panic. So, having Master's hand on me in any way does help ease my fears. I hope this helped a little. The main thing is have an open line of communication with your Master/Mistress. This is the biggest helper. ChaosxSeduction wrote: Tips for mental disorders with the lifestyle I am diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder and depression. I am starting a new regiment of meds for my depression and will be taking some for my anxiety soon, but in the mean time, does anyone know how I can deal with my anxiety and still fulfill my duty as a submissive. (Cleaning, cooking etc) Keep in mind that my anxiety is very severe, and it causes panic sensations, such as shakiness, dizziness, feeling of my throat closing, tingling in the hands and feet (hyperventilation) etc. http://411-447-262.blogspot.com/ 11 Jan 12, 11:36 PM ChaosxSeduction US(CA), 2 yrs Y! naughtyslave wrote: Your list is my list...headache=brain tumor and so on...and yes i feel better as well when they tell me i am ok. hate the doctors that after being told be very careful what you tell me or i might end up staying here..still tell me my bp is high...of course it is..its the three evils. i am glad your meds help you. i quit after a year and it freaked them out..but i cant handle them. If you ever want to chat...leave me a message and i will give you my im so that you do not feel alone. huge hugs to you and wishing you a peaceful day! Sure I would love to chat it up with you at some point. I can always use other submissive friends in the lifestyle. Helps me stay in the mindset, also it would be nice to be able to chat with someone who knows how I feel. 12 Jan 12, 1:21 AM True2life US(ID), 19 mths Obviously you are under the care of a licensed psychiatrist, if they are prescribing, and perhaps have access to a psychologist as well. Tell them of your dynamic, trust me, they have heard it all if they're worth a damn. Make sure they are aware of your lifestyle and they can help you integrate your treatment and lifestyle. Looking for mental health advice in any forum is incredibly risky. Also, your Dom/Master is not likely qualified to make decisions when it comes to your mental health. I don't mean in general like average physical or mental well being, but as regards real, diagnosable, mental health issues. My previous relationship was with a wonderful woman who is a psychologist with over 30 years serving the chronically mentally ill community and in our 15 years together I became accutely aware of the need for complete and total honesty in treatment, and sticking with the therapy and medications involved in that treatment. Be completely honest with your practitioner so they do not mistake symptoms or make assumptions based on observation of behaviors and statements. They will know what your involvement with the lifestyle means in how you relate to people. Next page