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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Owned - mind, body," 1 2 Owned - mind, body, (17) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 14 Jan 12, 11:00 PM 000-772-096 US, 7 yrs TopazD wrote: Isn't God really the only one who can own your soul? Or maybe the devil if you believe in him. That would be so if one believes in the type of god who would own a soul. If one doesn't, then it wouldn't apply. My Master is my god, so he owns my soul as well as the rest of the package. I use the terms Master(male) & slave(female) because that is who we are. Insert all possible disclaimers - my thoughts, my opinions, my experiences, my words. Your mileage should vary. I'm one of "those people." Above all - I believe in Master. I find it's hard to stumble when you are on your knees. 14 Jan 12, 11:44 PM 689-247-922 UK, 17 mths To my shagrin, i realized today that i used "mind, body and soul" to describe my submission just after midnight at New Years in a text to Sir! i'd had a few beers to celebrate the bells, so was maybe a wee bit more effusive than i would normally be! All i meant was how very deeply and strongly i felt that submission to be. Not sure that answers any of your questions though, @tigerlili! jx 15 Jan 12, 4:21 AM slave_torianna US(GA), 15 mths Daddy tells me that He owns my mind, body, and soul. And I can feel inside me this is true and pure. A persons soul (imo) is who they are...what makes torianna, torianna. well that is simple, whatever Daddy molds torianna to be. He has the control to dim the light inside me, the fire in my eyes, and the crush my being. Daddy has molded and formed me like clay, and it is a work in progress everyday. He has made the very essense of who I am what He has wanted it to be. Which thankfully is a stronger, more confident, obedient, (etc) version of me. I dont know that I am explaining this right, so many feelings and thoughts I cant put into words. I know it sounds like someone throwing up flowers when said, but it fits. Daddy does own every part of me, inside and out...body, mind, heart, and soul. This is us and I couldnt be more proud. slave torianna i dont walk in front or beside Daddy, i walk a step behind in my place, but close enough to grab His shirt tail if i ever get scared. i'm thankful to my Master that never leaves me behind. Thank you for loving someone like me Daddy. Edited 15 Jan 12, 4:25 AM by slave_torianna 17 Jan 12, 1:28 AM Master_Odin US(KS), 3 yrs tigerlili wrote: Owned - mind, body, I'll be up front in regard to my prejudice about the use of this phrase: Firstly, I'm a little cynical about its use, mainly because it seems to be an online-ism, being used by a myriad of online s-types, it seems to be especially prevalent in Second Life for example. Secondly, it seems like a bit of a competitive statement, as in “My Master owns me sooooo completely”, and often after only a relatively short time (“collared on the 2nd of January 2012, owned mind, body, heart and soul” etc) and thirdly, I wonder if the people who state that they are owned in this way have actually really considered what it means to be owned in the manner they describe, or if it's just something they've seen written, liked, and therefore copied it for their own use. "Heart, mind, body, & soul” and the word "slave" are both terms that denote a rather extreme relationship. Both terms are co-oped by some folks who "wanna be" rather than "are". But neither terms are negated by the fact that the terms are misused. nebulina and I are in a 'heart, mind, body & soul' relationship by my design. For some Owners, simple physical obedience is what they are after. With my size, (6' 5”, 340 pounds) external enslavement is no real challenge. I want to own every part of nebulina, not just have her obey, but want to obey, believe that obeying is Good™, and that as far as she is concerned my words might have well been chiseled in stone on Mt Sinai. Are we completely there yet? Nope. Much closer than we were years ago, and the journey we are on is on track. <selah> There is no authority, only responsibility. 17 Jan 12, 1:12 PM SL_precious CA, 3 yrs I have been thinking about this thread for a while and trying to find the words, thank you @torianna for saying what I was looking for. As others have stated, body, mind and heart are easy...but soul, how can you define your soul. It is what makes us who we are, our core. To say someone owns your soul is to say that they own you completely. All that you are is devoted to them. It is possible, it takes a lot of time and trust to reach that level of ownership....like the final piece of a puzzle. precious "Amazing what happens when we let go, surrender all and embrace the painful changes that are necessary to bring wholeness, and a brighter tomorrow." Suzanne Sondberg 17 Jan 12, 6:35 PM 943-077-319 UK, 10 mths How can anyone give what is not their to give, i have always believed that my soul is owned by god so i can not surrender to anyone mind and body yes if he or she is the right dom/me and there is a true connection between us but sould sorry goes against what i believe in 17 Jan 12, 11:36 PM pet_ka_MJ CA, 2 yrs I believe that being owned "body, mind, heart and soul" is a state of mind. In reality, or the world I live in at least, my Master cannot legally own me, but I can feel that he does. I think Maslow would agree that the feeling of being owned is all about belonging and finding our place in the world. As for owning my thoughts (ie. mind), again a state of mind. My thoughts may be very similar to my Master's on many things/levels and I may even believe what he wants me to believe. Yet, the human mind is so much more complex than simply stating I will believe and think what my Master tells me to think 100% of the time. If you have ever engaged in a meditation practice you may have experienced intrusive thoughts that come out of nowhere and seem to be disjointed and without meaning. As much as we may wish to channel these thoughts or our Master may desire to control them, they are uncontrollable. And as much as I wish my heart did belong 100%, solely to my Master, as I love him beyond words. This is not the case. It is shared with my son, sister, mother, best friend and a few others. My Master would never expect me to forsake the love I feel towards others in my life, just so I could say he owns my heart. As for my soul... again, ownership is a state of mind. Soul is an intangible that is indescribable (for me). Whatever my soul is, like my heart, I share it with my "higher power" (for lack of a better term). I find these discussions interesting, but for me, they seem rather impractical as a way to describe the "reality" of my relationship with my Master. I think of saying "I am owned body, mind, heart and soul" as a slave warm/fuzzy for my Master. It makes my Master feel good, and he knows what I mean as it relates to our relationship. "We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. The old skin must be shed before a new one can come." ~ Joseph Campbell Edited 17 Jan 12, 11:38 PM by pet_ka_MJ