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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Experiencing M/S as an outsider." Experiencing M/S as an outsider. (8) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Sun 8 Jan 12, 5:52 AM His_sweet_nothing AU, 15 mths A friend of mine has for some time expressed interest in experiencing my lifestyle first hand for a short time, to weigh up whether or not she wants a part in it. She definitely has a submissive personality, and is very willing to explore this world. My Master has graciously offered her two weeks in His home, as my slave sister, but warned her that she will be treated as i am, as a complete slave, not allowed clothing or possessions, and subject to His will at all times. Do you think that throwing her 'in the deep end' like this is a good idea? Or should she perhaps gradually 'ease in' to slavery? 8 Jan 12, 6:09 AM slave_emma US(OK), 6 yrs Y! I think every relationship is different. Chances are if and when she does find the right partner for her; he will not run his household like your Master, my Master, or anyone else. I think that being able to explore in a safe environment and find out what works and what doesn't is not a bad thing. Being able to ask questions in a safe environment also isn't a bad thing. When I entered into my relationship, it was a slow progression. It wasn't one day I am a free person and the next day I am a completely devoted slave. It took time to develop and as things progressed my Master added more expectations. If my Master was to expect me to be as devoted, obedient, knowledgeable about his preferences and etc, as I am now, when we first started down this path. I think it would have landed us both being very frustrated. In all, if your friend likes the way your Master runs his household. I do not see a problem with her experiencing it from the inside. However, I do think there needs to be clear expectations of what will happen and what won't happen inside the home. If there is something that your friend is very uncomfortable with, then I think that should be taken into consideration and not done during the two week trail. Moving a slave past an area that is outside of her comfort zone can take more than two weeks. I also think your friend needs to be able to have an out, so if at any time it becomes too much for her she can leave and return to her residence with no hard feelings between anyone. Best wishes, slave emma Master Howard's little girl 8 Jan 12, 6:14 AM 766-003-205 US(CA), 11 mths Y! His_sweet_nothing wrote: Experiencing M/S as an outsider. A friend of mine has for some time expressed interest in experiencing my lifestyle first hand for a short time, to weigh up whether or not she wants a part in it. She definitely has a submissive personality, and is very willing to explore this world. My Master has graciously offered her two weeks in His home, as my slave sister, but warned her that she will be treated as i am, as a complete slave, not allowed clothing or possessions, and subject to His will at all times. Do you think that throwing her 'in the deep end' like this is a good idea? Or should she perhaps gradually 'ease in' to slavery? It depends on her personality, how ready she is and how much she knows already really. Some people do better with baby steps and treating her as a "trainee" and introducing her to things and YOU being the model of the future might be less scary or off-putting. Like in aerobics videos when they show different levels so a new person can latch on to their level, but see also the best form. i know it's not the same thing, but the idea is the same. If He does something scary like whip you, she may be so frightened that she close her mind or worse- turn against it and vilify it. Two weeks is not that long, but again, she may or may not be ready to be naked and serving 24/7 with no experience. BUT- it is your Master's offer and decision and hers. i personally don't see it as turning out so well, as it would be so intense as you are an experienced slave, but He may tone it down- again it is HIS and hers to figure out. You and He can always do damage control later if it freaks her, IF she can listen. 8 Jan 12, 7:29 AM naughtyslave US, 2 yrs Like the others have said it depends on her personality. i,myself, am a rip it off like a bandaid kind of person.i enjoy crash courses in things..no time to talk yourself out of things and cram in as much as you can. This might turn out to be the most erotic experience of her life and something for her to treasure always...it could be a very positive experience.He must be a good Master because after all you are with Him...have faith.. Take care, His naughtyslave 8 Jan 12, 11:24 AM Hawklord UK, 6 yrs Personally I have always taken things slower and taken much longer. The deep end is very attractive but can be traumatic. The first 2 weeks are a succession of infractions and spanks until she learns what it truly is to be a slave. This might work, but it might end in tears. Finally I hope someone takes the time to get STD tests. Especially when you have existing slave(s) your Master has a responsibility to you as well as to himself. Sic volo. sic jubeo. stat pro ratione voluntas 8 Jan 12, 2:54 PM Master_Odin US(KS), 3 yrs His_sweet_nothing wrote: Experiencing M/S as an outsider. A friend of mine has for some time expressed interest in experiencing my lifestyle first hand for a short time, to weigh up whether or not she wants a part in it. She definitely has a submissive personality, and is very willing to explore this world. My Master has graciously offered her two weeks in His home, as my slave sister, but warned her that she will be treated as i am, as a complete slave, not allowed clothing or possessions, and subject to His will at all times. Do you think that throwing her 'in the deep end' like this is a good idea? Or should she perhaps gradually 'ease in' to slavery? Not knowing the people involved, looking only at what is presented: Spending two weeks following a slave to try and decide if one wants to be a slave is like trying to follow a preganant woman two weeks to decide if one wants to become pregnant. There is much more involved in being pregnant/a slave than can be observed in two weeks. The commitment involved is internal and not something one can really understand until one has experienced it. (It took nebulina about 2 years to convince me that she understood what slavery ment and that she was suited for it.) Having said that, I assume that your Master knows this woman and He sees more about the situation and this woman than we know. Good luck and do report back the results of this experiment. <selah> There is no authority, only responsibility. 8 Jan 12, 4:03 PM pet_ka_MJ CA, 2 yrs I think it can be a double edged sword... she will either love it or hate it. There is a romanticism about this lifestyle, and if her two week sojourn as a slave does not meet her fantasy/expectations then I expect it will be an awful experience for her. But hey, she could love it as well. "We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. The old skin must be shed before a new one can come." ~ Joseph Campbell 8 Jan 12, 6:15 PM 571-730-655 US(VA), 4 mths Y! I think a better step into introducing others into BDSM is to take it slow. After all, jumping headfirst with no knowledge is a very bad idea. Provide her with reading materials and good sources of information about BDSM. Offer to mentor her. Encourage her to attend some munches, demos, and events in your local area. Offer to have some "play sessions," where you have some nights giving a taste of what to expect from an M/s relationship. I think the best thing to remember is that what your Master thinks is only his way, and I do not see it helping to introduce her into the lifestyle unless she plans on being owned by him solely. After all, different dominants have different ways of doing things. Cinder, Property of Grimthorne 9 Jan 12, 5:46 AM tigerlili 3 yrs It's not a situation I would be seeking out if I was unowned. As others have said, ownership for most people is incremental, being dropped in the deep end is not going to give her a true sense of what it feels like to become owned over a period of time. As others have also said, each owner has different expectations of their slaves, and it's often at an individual level that a person becomes attracted to a potential owner, not the 'conditions' of slavery themselves. She may find herslf attracted to a completely different type of owner to your Master, and her time with him will have no way prepared her for this one. In M/s there are so many shades of grey and no absolutes, I can't see her acheiving what she wants to out of this, but of course that isn't for me to judge.