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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Rape in a M/S relationship?" 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Rape in a M/S relationship? (63) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 6 Jan 12, 7:32 PM 704-883-449 US(CO), 5 mths Hi, Really i feel this can happen if the slave is not in consentual slavery. Sometimes i dream of being captured and kept and every sex act being a rape or forced humiliation in some way cuz like a *real slave* doesn't have any choices and can be punished or even killed *whenever* because even a slaves very life is in the hands of it's captor. This is all very far from consentual M/S relationships and without any possibility of choice of control by the slave. Like in the very extreme a real slave can be raped, passed around, branded, whipped, maimed, starved, tormented or tortured and lended out or sold. But like when it's consentual, then there are always boundaries and lines that can't be crossed and if a Master crosses any of those lines, it's probly *rape*, isn't it? and like by the slave staying and not objecting, the rape would be added to the slaves consentual list and wouldn't be rape the next time it happened. So it's like you either consent about it or leave or if a slave would fight a Master about crossing a line every time it happened, then like that would be rape every time but rape would be part of the relationship after that and if a Master meant it to be rape then he would really have like no right to expel his slave just for fighting and it could get very physical with restraints required for every rape. filly fenmore 7 Jan 12, 1:22 AM LordMontique US(CA), 4 mths Y! I truely beleive that a slave cannot be raped, as he/she has no authority to refuse his/her Master's request or demand for sexual pleasure. As stated before if demands upon a slave are made without concern for the well being of the slave then the relationship will end. What I mean is that rather or not our slave chooses to leave our service or not he/she will never have the respect, admiration, or level of loving trust we once held in their heart. I can take away my slaves freedom, choices, and outward control. I cannot take away his/her free will of the heart. Its her heart I truely wish to hold in my hands... Our slaves have a desire, a need to serve. They want to put all of their (well everything) into our hands. They are freed by our bonds. With this we all need to be loved, Master/Mistress and slave. As for me I would not be complete with the love of my slave. For their is so much more to life then the use of my property. When I am overwhelmed at work, tasked by family concerns, or in a spot of trouble who is by my side? Who do I go to, if only to take my mind away? My slave, my partner, my love... While this many sound crude it liken my belief to this... I own my Cadillac, I may drive it as it pleases me. My car has ability to refuse me, unless it has something that needs to be fixed, (healed). If I abuse it, the car stops performing as it did when I cared for it. Lord Montique 7 Jan 12, 2:02 AM Blonde_Princess US(CA), 6 mths At the age of 15 I was raped. Rape is not about sex. Rape is all about power. Taking away someone else's power and using your own to dominate them. In a M/s D/s relationships is that not the basis of the relationship? Giving the other person your power? The only difference would be that he hurt me by beating me up badly, while in an M/s relationship the other person is not injured, as it is the Master's job to take care of them. My Master is my world and keeps me safe and protected. No one will ever hurt me again...so anytime and any way he wants sex...I am ready for it even if I'm not in the mood. A few kisses while looking into his dark sexy eyes and thinking of all of the pleasure he gives to me puts me in the mood There was no pleasure involved in being raped. Oh, there was humiliation, which is something that a lot of couples enjoy! So while there are similarities....being raped scars you for life...physically and emotionally...while a Master wanting sex from his slave when he/she isn't in the mood I just don't think would have the same effect. And if it did, that person has no business being a Master in my books... Oh and don't do what I did. If you are raped, please tell someone and get help. Don't let it fester inside of you. 28 years later and I still have issues with any man other than my Master touching my face because I had been punched so many times. And it has taken a whole for us to get to that point. If anyone has had it happen and needs to talk without judgement...please send me a note. I will dou best to help. 'Alone and lost was my temporary condition. Then this undying love, this lust, a vampyric addiction. To him alone in full submission...there was never any other.' 7 Jan 12, 5:44 AM 673-030-066 US(CO), 2 yrs Y! in our relationship we use the term rape for any sexual use that is not a love making session. all is consensual in our style so its not real rape but it is a mental thing. When He says "rape" it simply means that he is going to use me sexually and most likely roughly. 7 Jan 12, 1:49 PM His_sweet_nothing AU, 15 mths First and foremost, i do as i am told. If my Master wants to use my body, i unflinchingly offer myself. No matter what. He uses His own discretion, however, and rarely uses me when i am sick or otherwise undesirable. 7 Jan 12, 7:17 PM 000-772-096 US, 7 yrs ushaben wrote: Respectfully, i would agree with Dagobert, Hawklord and SL Precious, that rape in a O/P relationship, by definition, cannot exist, for the reasons given. i cannot imagine, other than for reasons of serious physical incapacity, that i even think of refusing an opportunity to please my Owner in whatever way He wished. For me, this would negating my submission to Him, thus exerting some measure of control over Him, which, to me, is just unthinkable. In practise, i cannot think that this sort of situation would arise, since my Owner is always sensitive to my needs, physical or otherwise; although, of course, not my wants. As usual, @ushaben has expressed exactly what I would have wanted to say and did so far better than I could have myself. Thank you. I concur. I use the terms Master(male) & slave(female) because that is who we are. Insert all possible disclaimers - my thoughts, my opinions, my experiences, my words. Your mileage should vary. I'm one of "those people." Above all - I believe in Master. I find it's hard to stumble when you are on your knees. 7 Jan 12, 8:38 PM 000-719-381 US(TX), 10 yrs Y! For an extensive discussion of this topic, see the full thread entitled "Can a slave be raped?" first posted by this slut on 17/01/2008. most respectfully 000-719-381 slut phylassia 8 Jan 12, 9:56 PM 964-617-600 UK, 8 mths I am Master Abbott's slave and toy and we live it 24/7,I have to say if ever I do not want sex due to pain or feeling unwell my Master is very good and understands and waits. However I have to say that as his slave I find it very sexy he if he just takes what is already his, as I have already given myself to him fully it is not rape or anything such like, it is purely my Master taking what is already his to take if I had not given my self to him completely then I would not agree, however I have and so expect my Master to take my body whenever and however he wants. My Master will never threaten me but promise me that I will be punished for incorrect behaviour or lack of respect and that in it's self brings trust and respect for my Master 9 Jan 12, 5:38 AM tigerlili 3 yrs 000-772-096 wrote: ushaben wrote: Respectfully, i would agree with Dagobert, Hawklord and SL Precious, that rape in a O/P relationship, by definition, cannot exist, for the reasons given. i cannot imagine, other than for reasons of serious physical incapacity, that i even think of refusing an opportunity to please my Owner in whatever way He wished. For me, this would negating my submission to Him, thus exerting some measure of control over Him, which, to me, is just unthinkable. In practise, i cannot think that this sort of situation would arise, since my Owner is always sensitive to my needs, physical or otherwise; although, of course, not my wants. As usual, @ushaben has expressed exactly what I would have wanted to say and did so far better than I could have myself. Thank you. I concur. As do I. Ushaben, I like how you have reframed the question to be more about why we wouldn't want to please our owners wherever and whenever possible, as opposed to why our owners should not attempt to take what is theirs. Lovely. That is after all what being a slave is all about in my eyes. 13 Jan 12, 11:44 PM 144-039-673 US(CA), 8 mths i believe that as a slave it would not ever be technically considered rape, though it may feel that way. There was a time when something occurred during a sexual act that sparked an anxiety attack within myself. The act ceased, but before i had fully recovered Master had me resume the act, to me it felt like the rape i endured in the past, but looking back i see it can not be considered rape because i gave myself to Him. i could have spoke up and said i am not recovered enough to perform this act and request time to fully recover, but i made the choice to please Master, even if it caused me harm. Master loves me and i am not deserving and should He ever leave i will be lost. Next page