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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Rape in a M/S relationship?" 1 2 3 4 5 6 Rape in a M/S relationship? (57) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Thu 5 Jan 12, 3:58 PM Sir_Don UK, 5 mths Good day! My slave and I have been thinking about the act of rape in our relationship, and what role, if any, it should have in a M/S household. On one side, a slave gives its body and soul to its Master to take care of, giving him/her the responsibility to take care of it and make sure it is feeling well. But on the other, it is a slaves duty to serve its Master in every way possible, giving him/her its body if he/she desires it. I would appreciate responses from people with their own thoughts on the subject. From Masters, I would like to hear what their thought is about having sexual intercourse with their slaves when they are not willing to do so, and possibly hear about such experiences. From slaves, I would want to hear what you would think if your Master did this to you, both what you would think during, and after. Would you think less of him for abusing his responsibility to take care of you, or think higher of him for upholding his right to use your bodies? With greetings, Sir Don. 5 Jan 12, 4:35 PM naughtyslave US, 2 yrs In order for me to refuse his use of me,there would be a pretty serious reason..being ill beyond being able to handle it..if He decided that this didnt matter, knowing i wouldnt refuse unless i had to,and used me anyway...i would be doing some serious thinking about O/our relationship and most likely moving on. Sex isn't something one person has to have in order to live..it is pleasure pure and simple. SO if he couldnt be "grown up" enough to handle waiting for me to feel better i would loose all respect for Him and consider Him to be over the top selfish and not having my best interests at heart. However this would be the only reason i refused sex...whether i was into it or not..if He wanted it he would have my full attention. Interesting question... Take care, His naughtyslave 5 Jan 12, 5:24 PM Hawklord UK, 6 yrs Sir_Don wrote: Rape in a M/S relationship? On one side, a slave gives its body and soul to its Master to take care of, giving him/her the responsibility to take care of it and make sure it is feeling well. But on the other, it is a slaves duty to serve its Master in every way possible, giving him/her its body if he/she desires it. It's an interesting question, because to some extent it's debatable whether it can be called rape. If the slave says no, then I suppose it is rape, but I have the right to use my slave at any time, a right given to me by her. No is not an answer I could accept. The slave would still be used and punished also. But if the slave were ill then I would surely waive my rights as a responsible owner. naughtyslave wrote: wouldnt refuse unless i had to,and used me anyway...i would be doing some serious thinking about O/our relationship and most likely moving on. While it might be abuse from an irresponsible Master, moving on is not an option if you are owned property. Sic volo. sic jubeo. stat pro ratione voluntas 5 Jan 12, 5:46 PM Sir_Don UK, 5 mths If my slave was sick, or physically unavailable, there would be no question, I would not use it. Health and safety before anything else. But still, as naughtyslave pointed out, demanding sex from a unwilling slave could be considered very selfish and disrespectfull, while still being the "correct" thing to do in a relationship where one partner is property. I think the judgement on wether one would do it is based largely on how stern the dominant partner in the relationship is at just that moment. I find myself unsure in the matter, sometimes seeing it as the right thing to do, using my right as its Master, and sometimes as the wrong thing, abusing my responsibility to take care of it. 5 Jan 12, 5:54 PM naughtyslave US, 2 yrs Hawklord wrote: Sir_Don wrote: Rape in a M/S relationship? On one side, a slave gives its body and soul to its Master to take care of, giving him/her the responsibility to take care of it and make sure it is feeling well. But on the other, it is a slaves duty to serve its Master in every way possible, giving him/her its body if he/she desires it. It's an interesting question, because to some extent it's debatable whether it can be called rape. If the slave says no, then I suppose it is rape, but I have the right to use my slave at any time, a right given to me by her. No is not an answer I could accept. The slave would still be used and punished also. But if the slave were ill then I would surely waive my rights as a responsible owner. naughtyslave wrote: wouldnt refuse unless i had to,and used me anyway...i would be doing some serious thinking about O/our relationship and most likely moving on. While it might be abuse from an irresponsible Master, moving on is not an option if you are owned property. Again Sir..it is a matter of choice...i do believe W/we have been through this before.....in real life there is always a choice whether to stay or not to stay. i for one am a grown adult and if i were to judge a Master so poorly that He would consider using me when i couldnt handle it...then yes..even owned...i would have the right to ask for release and move on. This is the reality in 'my" world...maybe not in Your's,Sir,but an absolute in mine. Otherwise a Master could beat me to near death and i would have no choice but to stay? i think not...everyday i am there i made a choice to be there..every single day. Every command i follow i have made a choice to do so..one might not be aware of said choice but make no mistake there has been a choice to follow...but that is another subject. This to me is what my Master refers to as dominating with common sense and this is why i wear His collar..because reality and common sense out weigh fantasy. Of course this is only my opinion and how i live my life..to each their own Take care, His naughtyslave 5 Jan 12, 6:02 PM naughtyslave US, 2 yrs Sir_Don wrote: If my slave was sick, or physically unavailable, there would be no question, I would not use it. Health and safety before anything else. But still, as naughtyslave pointed out, demanding sex from a unwilling slave could be considered very selfish and disrespectfull, while still being the "correct" thing to do in a relationship where one partner is property. I think the judgement on wether one would do it is based largely on how stern the dominant partner in the relationship is at just that moment. I find myself unsure in the matter, sometimes seeing it as the right thing to do, using my right as its Master, and sometimes as the wrong thing, abusing my responsibility to take care of it. Don't get me wrong...there would truly have to be a good reason. i am not talking about someone just being bitchy and holding out on her Master. For example there have been some mornings (not many,but some) that i didnt want the 5 am wake up call with a cock shoved down my throat before i have even brushed my teeth or had a cup of coffee or open my eyes for that matter. Did i say "hey i dont want to" absolutly not..i did my "job" without resistance and the best i could.Why..because i am a slave and that is what is required of me...so You see i would not just say no for no other reason then i didn't feel like it. if i did say no..i would expect Him to respect my answer and not just f*cking take it from me as an abuse of power and control over me. The collar does not replace the moral standards in my opinion. *edited because i spazzed out! Take care, His naughtyslave Edited 5 Jan 12, 6:17 PM by naughtyslave 5 Jan 12, 6:04 PM 998-978-777 US(TN), 20 mths Rape in a slave relationship (at least in my mind) does not exist. I, as a slave, do not have rights once owned, and therefore can not be raped because I have no right to say no. V/R, Kitten I have lost my guiding light, never to be found again. Darkenss and oppression seem to envelope me. 5 Jan 12, 6:21 PM jbdogowner UK, 5 yrs Rape can not exist in a fully functioning power exchange A slave would be mortified to have to refuse it's Master's advances and a Master would be irresponsible to cross the line out of consent As a Master I would never initiate, demand or order anything I knew the slave would refuse, to do so would undermine my authority and the slaves trust in my judgement. 5 Jan 12, 6:26 PM Dagobert US(WA), 18 mths While I agree that rape cannot exist within an M/s relationship, I do believe that basic courtesy does. 5 Jan 12, 6:33 PM HisPrincess US(TN), 54 days jbdogowner wrote: Rape can not exist in a fully functioning power exchange A slave would be mortified to have to refuse it's Master's advances and a Master would be irresponsible to cross the line out of consent As a Master I would never initiate, demand or order anything I knew the slave would refuse, to do so would undermine my authority and the slaves trust in my judgement. Very well said 5 Jan 12, 11:02 PM SL_precious CA, 3 yrs Sir_Don wrote: If my slave was sick, or physically unavailable, there would be no question, I would not use it. Health and safety before anything else. But still, as naughtyslave pointed out, demanding sex from a unwilling slave could be considered very selfish and disrespectfull, while still being the "correct" thing to do in a relationship where one partner is property. I think the judgement on wether one would do it is based largely on how stern the dominant partner in the relationship is at just that moment. I find myself unsure in the matter, sometimes seeing it as the right thing to do, using my right as its Master, and sometimes as the wrong thing, abusing my responsibility to take care of it. To be honest, the first thing I thought when reading the OP was why on earth would a slave be unwilling? I mean outside of the obvious illness issue, why? I just can't wrap my head around that. Sure there are times I might not feel like it but unwilling, never. If Master feels the need or want to use me that way, I fully expect him to do so. In fact it would upset me to know that he didn't because of my lack of desire. Perhaps I feel this way because I am a huge slut for him and see any opportunity to have his cock inside me as a pleasure SL_precious "Amazing what happens when we let go, surrender all and embrace the painful changes that are necessary to bring wholeness, and a brighter tomorrow." Suzanne Sondberg Next page