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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "So Few Male Slaves" 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 So Few Male Slaves (96) This topic is now full - if you want to reply, please make a new post on the board itself. This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Tue 6 Dec 11, 11:58 AM 000-731-321 10 yrs > lil_one_anjuli wrote: > >slave_emma wrote: > > >Mistress_Flo wrote: > > >I have been reading the different replies to this question and I t saddens Me that so many females are the ones responding, but are slaves. > >What is wrong with a female slave responding? It is answering the OP's question and I do not see why someone would be saddened by someone else having a meaningful relationship. > >Best wishes, > >slave emma >Well i guess what is wrong...is that the majority of the slaves are females. > >Then it just justifies my theory of male supremacy > >My blog: http://www.anaferreira-pianist.com/blog.html You have brought up an interesting point and one that is worth discussion on its own. Internal Enslavement says men are not natural submissives: http://www.enslavement.org.uk/malesub In fact, another website says: "Men who are aware of the fact that women in this culture have lost their ability to admire the few remaining genuinely strong men, but worse: that they have done nothing to inspire women to regain in. Men who claim to be defeated by the strength of women in the world, yet who are secretly looking for an excuse not to regain their own. Instead of regarding their own inconsistent characters as the cause of their current weaknesses, they evade the problem by externalizing it into a conviction that female dominance natural and to be expected. As if the moral strength of another would give them permission to lack it themselves." Are submissive men broken? Edited Tue 6 Dec 11, 12:15 PM by 000-731-321 6 Dec 11, 12:34 PM lil_one_anjuli 20 mths ugh....there will be fire here...i am outta here lol. Seriously i am just with a bad flu. I just need to stress a few points: 1st i was answering in a sarcastic, almost ironic way...in my cheeky side. There was a thread i did about Male supremacy and it didnt go very well . 2nd I have no statistics evidences for what i said in that thread. Coming down to my own opinion and i know i am going to be spanked once again. Yes i do believe it is more natural the Male supremacy * it is my ideal* .....i see my dad as passive and broken. So in my lil world that doesnt match at all with other's worlds.....i do not understand male submission, switches.... although i do understand that in homo relationships it is perfectly normal that one guy might be more dominant than other and that one female may be more dominant than another female. In hetero context....i refuse to believe that male submission is genuine. I think it is just their kink and nothing more. Finally i have read somewhere that is it is usually harder to find a long lasting male slave than a long lasting female slave. This just enforces my view that male submission is just a kink and not really a 100% submission. ps: i am sorry if i am offending the male subs and other people's with other minds. So now i am outta here before they shoot me! My blog: http://www.anaferreira-pianist.com/blog.html 6 Dec 11, 2:06 PM slave_emma US(OK), 6 yrs Y! I think more female slaves being active on an internet forum than male slaves have absolutely nothing to do with a male submissive or slave being broken. Women tend to post on forums more than men. There are more Mistresses posting on the boards on a regular basis than Masters. I do not believe there is anything wrong with a male submissive. Gender roles do not dictate whether or not someone has a lasting D/s or M/s relationship. The majority of D/s or M/s relationships do not make it over the long haul. This is true from male-led and female-led relationships. They tend to last a few years and fizzle out. Finding the right partner to be with over the long term can take some trial and error. I think that as long as the people in the relationship are true to themselves then they have a much better chance of making it over the long-term. There is no one twuisms in life. We are unique people with unique needs, wants, and desires. It is important to be true to who we are and not true to what the masses or what a book said we should be. Best wishes, slave emma Master Howard's little girl 6 Dec 11, 2:14 PM lil_one_anjuli 20 mths Strange i find that actually i see more Masters posting than Mistresses....if i can count well. Again is not another generalization to say that women tends to post more than men? I have seen forums where this happens the opposite. it all depends on the topics, really! If that is true, why that happens? One thing is sure...no one can deny there are differences between men and women. My blog: http://www.anaferreira-pianist.com/blog.html Edited 6 Dec 11, 2:21 PM by lil_one_anjuli 6 Dec 11, 3:19 PM lil_one_anjuli 20 mths fuckmunki wrote: 000-731-321 wrote: Are submissive men broken? Wow - that's one hell of a leap now isn't it! More females post on this site therefore males are superior in some way and male slaves are broken. Wow! You could apply such logic to other scenarios i suppose, though perhaps a contest for who can create the biggest leap in logic ever!? Gold star for the best effort! munki Well she is not making a statement, therefore you could expose the reasons of why you disagree. It would be much more constructive post. My blog: http://www.anaferreira-pianist.com/blog.html 6 Dec 11, 3:34 PM lil_one_anjuli 20 mths fuckmunki wrote: as i have said: it's faulty logic. There isn't a constructive conversation to be had in which one individual or group attempts to deride another group or individual based upon a derogatory or generalized statement. munki Yes but she is questioning a link that is actually part of this forum and provided by the owner of this forum * informed consent*. So i dont think it is that faulty logic. There is no generalization either. It is just a question. My blog: http://www.anaferreira-pianist.com/blog.html 6 Dec 11, 3:38 PM lil_one_anjuli 20 mths Just a moment... just looked at profile 731...besides being here for 10 years and just have 3 posts.....it is a submissive male. So munki...i think....that....he is not really wanting to question the male subs but to argue against the link content. My blog: http://www.anaferreira-pianist.com/blog.html 6 Dec 11, 3:45 PM Glinda UK, 2 yrs lil_one_anjuli wrote: Just a moment... just looked at profile 731...besides being here for 10 years and just have 3 posts.....it is a submissive male. So munki...i think....that....he is not really wanting to question the male subs but to argue against the link content. lil_one_anjuli I was wondering when you'd notice the poster is male, you just crack me up. I've got this strange feeling this thread is going to run and run. 6 Dec 11, 4:44 PM Pet_Girl US, 14 mths I think that is a terrible way to think. I don't know if this is a self crisis or just for discussion or you'll come back and defend that they aren't, whatever it is, I think that thinking male submissives are broken is a terrible way to think. To figure out what "broken" is, you have to define what "fixed" or "whole" are, which, I assume, what you're pointing to in the OP is a submissive female and a dominant male. Okay, let's go with that, that begs the question, which kind? Okay, the twue camp would say 24/7 M/s. Or maybe it's ANY female submissive and male dominant, well then what do we do with the switches? Are they broken too? If indeed the male submissives are broken, then the female dominants must be broken too. Now our broken pile is growing, in fact, while I don't know the actual statistics, I'd say that the broken pile has a relatively similar size to the whole pile, if maybe a little smaller. Can we really say that broken is something that 30-40% of the sample size is? Or if we go with the twue camp, 80-90%? Basically, what we're trying to do is define "normal." Defining normal, while people have been trying to do it forever, usually doesn't go over well. Normal is the heterosexual couple. Normal is the white anglo-saxon protestant. Normal is the missionary position. Normal is vanilla. Normal is the complete family with 2.5 kids and the house in the suburbs with the white picket fence. Normal is going to college after high school, getting a decent job, rising a bit through the corporate ladder, retiring at 65, traveling a bit, hanging out with the grandkids, and knitting on the porch in a rocking chair while drinking some sweet tea. All normal, all removing a giant subset of the population. All pretty generalizing, some of them even offensive. What they don't tell you is that heterosexual couple likes gay porn, or one of them even might be gay. The WASP is dating someone of African or Asian decent and, God forbid, they might only go to church because it's habit and what "should" be done on Sundays. That missionary position couple only does that to make love, otherwise she likes it from behind. That vanilla couple has a dungeon, and they both use and enjoy it. And on and on and on. Normal is an illusion; it's a mask that we put on to blend in, sometimes because we don't want to get bullied, sometimes because we don't want to deal with the judgmental looks, sometimes because it's none of their business, sometimes because we know it would hurt our family and friends more than we want them to have that insight into us. You can't say broken because you can't say what whole is. You can't say abnormal because you can't say what normal is. 6 Dec 11, 5:34 PM 902-660-194 US(PA), 6 yrs Pet_Girl wrote: Okay, the twue camp would say 24/7 M/s. man i feel old or somethin.. had to look up "twue" lol cant find "twuisms" was that typo or just another word ive never heard of in my life? the sting of His whip~ the welts from His crop~ the warmth of His kiss~ the click of the lock~ assures me i am His most cherished possession.. 6 Dec 11, 7:00 PM 000-731-321 10 yrs Let me say that i never meant anyone to feel bad about their posts by starting this intentionally contraversial thread. i have been thinking about this for a long time and in 10 years, i haven't had the occasion to post (but i have certainly watched and read). Yes, i am a hetero male sub (nothing against gay men/subs). i agree that there seem to be fewer of us and that society has certain expectations of men. The gay community has been fighting these (great job) and found a way to create their own societies but i know that they face these issues too (no offense). The post was intended to reiterate that maybe there is something to what Mistress Flo was saying. i know that there are many male subs out there. But how many? Does it matter? Are we real? Or are we just guys looking for a good time/missing strength? Wow, after at least 10 years, i don't know what real is. How does one prove oneself to be a real sub? To answer Mistress Flo, i would say that it is tough to be a true male sub. Many stay underground/end up in vanilla relationships. Then there are the hoards of men that show up to the pros looking for a temporary hit. Are they real? Could they handle it 24/7 for a decade or more. Dunno. PS Pet_Girl - love your post!!! Edited 6 Dec 11, 7:04 PM by 000-731-321 Next page