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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Do you think Being a slave is..........." 1 2 3 Do you think Being a slave is........... (28) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Fri 18 Nov 11, 7:56 AM 766-003-205 US(CA), 11 mths Y! ......a privilege or a gift to your Master? i don't want to start an argument thread- and i don't want to sound "precious" or smushy. i personally think of enslavement as a privilege not a gift. i am DRIVEN to enslavement and have a "prime directive" to improve upon the level of submission every day. Conventional thinking says that "giving in" to another is a gift or concession, compromise that requires a deliberate payback or should be scrapped. i feel since i am DRIVEN and NEED to be enslaved in ever increasing increments that by accepting me as His slave, i am privileged. Fortunate enough to be Owned, AND Owned by someone who is conscientious, caring and also increasing in dominance daily. IF He wasn't willing to do the work required to learn Mastery and allow me to be His slave then i wouldn't have the opportunity to be what i need to be. So in many ways, in the most significant way- i am doing it for myself, though doing it for myself requires submission and obedience to Him. Fulfilling HIS wishes, but i get satisfaction and fulfillment and i get to feel gratitude which really feels good to have. Anyone else feel like this? Edited Fri 18 Nov 11, 7:59 AM by 766-003-205 18 Nov 11, 8:29 AM Knotss UK, 6 mths For many it's possibly both at once as oppose to an either/or case. Edited 18 Nov 11, 1:33 PM by Knotss 18 Nov 11, 9:10 AM ushaben UK, 2 yrs i completely understand your meaning, for it is the same for me, as i too have the obsession or imperative to submit. It has been suggested that the need to submisiion is innate within us and that we are submitting to our own natures; our Masters are the focus for our submission and provide us with the environment in which we can serve. Perhaps are compulsion is a sort of 'anti-existential' one, where we seek to have as little control over ourselves and our surroundings as possible. Edited 22 Nov 11, 12:22 PM by ushaben 18 Nov 11, 9:39 AM slave_emma US(OK), 6 yrs Y! Neither. I do not feel my enslavement to my Master is either a gift or a privilege for him. For me, this lifestyle is who we are. We both work on making ourselves better and we grow, but I do not feel he is feeling compelled to act of be a certain way because of me. My Master isn't compelled to show me how 'masterly' he is to make he feel more slave like. At this point, our relationship is pretty stable. He has complete authority over me and we are still growing, but it is not a forced growth and our growth isn't limited to his dominance and control over me. To me a gift would be like a present given to my Master. But I do not feel what I give him was a gift. I think I was very carefully selected by my Master to add enrichment to his life and to make his life easier. To me a privilege would be something extra my Master is getting from me. I do not think it is a privilege for him to have me to submit to him, to clean his house, and to do whatever he wants. He owns me, so it is fully within his rights. He's not getting anything extra out of me, because I offer all of myself to him. Being blessed with finding a good and caring Master makes me very fortunate. It isn't always easy to find the right match and I think it is always good to remember that not everyone is as lucky. I would consider having my Master in my life be more of a privilege for me. My Master is the one that gives me privileges. I do not give him privileges. Best wishes, slave emma Master Howard's little girl 18 Nov 11, 11:05 AM isolai AU, 16 mths It would be a privilege for me to serve the right Man. I don't hold by the whole 'gift of submission' nonsense. It's a need, not a compromise. 18 Nov 11, 1:27 PM 279-530-229 NL, 6 mths I think starting with the mindset that our submission is our gift to our Masters has the consequence of making us feel self-entitled -- i.e., "i submitted to you, therefore i deserve xyz", and I don't think that's quite a good and healthy place to be. I am still amazed and happy that my Master chose me to be his slave and I revel in that gift everyday. 18 Nov 11, 2:10 PM ladyfantasia US(MA), 3 yrs Y! I think it is a privilege to serve Master. i am honored to have such a Man in my life. For 9 years i have served Him and He has taken care of His property well. i have never wanted for anything, well mostly. When He says no i try hard not to ask why, because i am a curious person. He usually gives me a reason anyway. I am privileged. ladyfantasia edited for spelling lf Edited 18 Nov 11, 2:11 PM by ladyfantasia 18 Nov 11, 3:22 PM naughtyslave US, 2 yrs 766-003-205 wrote: Do you think Being a slave is........... ......a privilege or a gift to your Master? i don't want to start an argument thread- and i don't want to sound "precious" or smushy. i personally think of enslavement as a privilege not a gift. i am DRIVEN to enslavement and have a "prime directive" to improve upon the level of submission every day. Conventional thinking says that "giving in" to another is a gift or concession, compromise that requires a deliberate payback or should be scrapped. i feel since i am DRIVEN and NEED to be enslaved in ever increasing increments that by accepting me as His slave, i am privileged. Fortunate enough to be Owned, AND Owned by someone who is conscientious, caring and also increasing in dominance daily. IF He wasn't willing to do the work required to learn Mastery and allow me to be His slave then i wouldn't have the opportunity to be what i need to be. So in many ways, in the most significant way- i am doing it for myself, though doing it for myself requires submission and obedience to Him. Fulfilling HIS wishes, but i get satisfaction and fulfillment and i get to feel gratitude which really feels good to have. Anyone else feel like this? The word enslavement makes me cringe. It was a very long road to recovery after i was IE with Former..a road in which i am still traveling sometimes due to flash backs of sorts.i am in no hurry to be in that sort of dynamic again. i am on a journey that has me "in service" to Master. i no longer view this as a gift..He owns me because He enjoys having me around..He doesnt need me there..He can live quite easily without me. But W/we fit nicely together and it works. I strive each day to step it up from yesterday because He believes my time there should never be taken for granted and i should earn His time. This doesnt work for others but it works for us. Its a partnership..His dominance and my submission..an agreement. So to me ,like emma, i dont go by the gift theory. However it seems to make some very happy and for them im glad..just not part of my thinking or dynamic. Please understand that these writings of naughtyslave are only her opinions.They are not judgements towards others. They are simply her opinion expressed in discussions so that she may be a part of an online community. If any are offensive,please accept her deepest apologies. His naughtyslave Edited 21 Nov 11, 9:43 PM by naughtyslave 18 Nov 11, 5:32 PM 766-003-205 US(CA), 11 mths Y! slave_emma wrote: Neither. I do not feel my enslavement to my Master is either a gift or a privilege for him. For me, this lifestyle is who we are. We both work on making ourselves better and we grow, but I do not feel he is feeling compelled to act of be a certain way because of me. My Master isn't compelled to show me how 'masterly' he is to make he feel more slave like. At this point, our relationship is pretty stable. He has complete authority over me and we are still growing, but it is not a forced growth and our growth isn't limited to his dominance and control over me. To me a gift would be like a present given to my Master. But I do not feel what I give him was a gift. I think I was very carefully selected by my Master to add enrichment to his life and to make his life easier. To me a privilege would be something extra my Master is getting from me. I do not think it is a privilege for him to have me to submit to him, to clean his house, and to do whatever he wants. He owns me, so it is fully within his rights. He's not getting anything extra out of me, because I offer all of myself to him. Being blessed with finding a good and caring Master makes me very fortunate. It isn't always easy to find the right match and I think it is always good to remember that not everyone is as lucky. I would consider having my Master in my life be more of a privilege for me. My Master is the one that gives me privileges. I do not give him privileges. Best wishes, slave emma i probably wasn't clear in the wording. i meant a privilege for me, not him. 18 Nov 11, 10:07 PM cadance UK, 18 mths It is a privilege to submit to Sir - whether He sees my submission as a gift or not is entirely a matter for Him - all that matters to me is His collar remains locked and the privilege continues x Sir's slave cadance. Each step of this journey is amazing, to Sir H i submit 100% 20 Nov 11, 8:03 PM 387-217-586 US(VA), 6 mths I would agree with your statement.. I too feel compelled and driven to delve ever deeper into my submission and servitude to my Owner. It is a daily quest to fully relinquish that power, promote my own enslavement and improve the service that I provide to Mistress. That drive or need to submit so fully is truly an inherent or integral part of me, and something that she has brought into the full light and continues to blossom and grow. I'm lucky that she feeds me, feeds my need to give her that absolute power and promotes that growth for us both. Next page