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	TSR : Web boards : Website help : "Why people leave, part 2" 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Why people leave, part 2 (74) This post is on the Website help web board (moved from M/s D/s O&P). Tue 25 Oct 11, 2:20 AM Master_Odin US(KS), 3 yrs This thread continued. http://www.slaveregister.com/posts/182239/0 There is no authority, only responsibility. 25 Oct 11, 2:23 AM Master_Odin US(KS), 3 yrs Prolixitys_Saphira wrote: Odin -- I had to do a little bit of research and refresh my memory before fully addressing bears and emotions. Ever hear of the "theory of mind?" You ever hear of hunting success? To take prey you have to think enough like prey to know where it will be and what it will be doing. Prolixitys_Saphira wrote: No, I don't have "infinite knowledge," but I am very good at research. You are good at bloviation, and avoidance. This is the third time I have asked you, (twice since you flounced the first time), to address a direct question I posed to you, on topic, and you have spammed the list with your bear trivia. Do you have the maturity to explain yourself or keep your word and bow out?. Master_Odin wrote: Prolixitys_Saphira wrote: Prolixitys_Saphira wrote: jakesemma wrote: Being different doesn't make things less valid - but call a spade for what it is, and the "merging" of those is why I rarely post here anymore. Apparently from the way the purists post, it does make things less valid and in many cases repugnant, How? How can emma say flat out, that being different DOESN'T make things less valid, and yet it is still somehow taken that way... (now we see the violence inherent in the system....) Prolixitys_Saphira wrote: you are so arrogant Someone who owns someone else arrogant? Whodathunkit? None of which excuses your own hubris. Prolixitys_Saphira wrote: someone who thinks that encyclopedic knowledge comes from the observations made by hunters rather than scientists who use proper scientific methods when studying their chosen subject. Humans have been hunting bears for millennia, scientists are Johnny-come-latelies with no real skin in the game. Which bears (pun intended) directly to the topic, that those with experience in M/s Classic ™ have the experience to discuss, not because they OBSERVE it, or study it, but because they LIVE it. Prolixitys_Saphira wrote: And it is really, really sad that you simply cannot let something as silly as a remark about bears that was never meant to reflect the truth about bears in the first place go. It speaks volumes about your personality. Looking at the sheer volume of your verbiage I tend to agree. Prolixitys_Saphira wrote: You sit there so enamored of your own perceived genius that you do not let the opinions of others in. Your own arrogance has become your prison and there is nothing anyone can do to change your mind. The person in the prison is you. Prolixitys_Saphira wrote: Debating is supposed to be entertaining, not something that dies off because one arrogant fool drives everyone away. Or, Debating is supposed to be educational, not something that dies off because of a ding-a-ling or two have too much time on their hands and spam the list with cutsy obnoxious *smirks*. Prolixitys_Saphira wrote: This time I am off to other parts. I have proven my point about you. Really? We can believe you this time because... why? <selah> There is no authority, only responsibility. 25 Oct 11, 3:01 AM SL_precious CA, 3 yrs For heavens sake...this has turned into a kindergarten arguement of " I know you are but what am I" ... I was sure that running the other thread out would be the perfect opportunity for everyone to just let it go. "Amazing what happens when we let go, surrender all and embrace the painful changes that are necessary to bring wholeness, and a brighter tomorrow." Suzanne Sondberg 25 Oct 11, 3:04 AM 290-491-264 US(SC), 7 mths SL_precious wrote: For heavens sake...this has turned into a kindergarten arguement of " I know you are but what am I" ... I was sure that running the other thread out would be the perfect opportunity for everyone to just let it go. Some people always have to have the last word(s). 25 Oct 11, 3:45 AM Master_Odin US(KS), 3 yrs SL_precious wrote: For heavens sake...this has turned into a kindergarten arguement of " I know you are but what am I" ... I was sure that running the other thread out would be the perfect opportunity for everyone to just let it go. Apparently not, you posted. <selah> There is no authority, only responsibility. 25 Oct 11, 4:01 AM naughtyslave US, 2 yrs Master_Odin wrote: SL_precious wrote: For heavens sake...this has turned into a kindergarten arguement of " I know you are but what am I" ... I was sure that running the other thread out would be the perfect opportunity for everyone to just let it go. Apparently not, you posted. <selah> Don't you have a slave to beat to take out your frustrations? Just curious.... “ you can't take power from the powerless. Dishwater isn't soup, weakness isn't submission”~Jeff Mach His naughtyslave 25 Oct 11, 5:52 AM Prolixitys_Saphira US, 16 mths *yawns* Too long, didn't read. Give it up Odin. You're only making yourself look like even a bigger narcissistic ass than you already have. I'm out. As I said, I have proven my point that you're an arrogant man who can't let things go. You're only proving it further by starting a new thread to argue over nothing. Why don't you log off and go play with your poor neglected slave? Goodbye. Owned, loved and protected by Prolixity. 25 Oct 11, 11:13 AM Master_Odin US(KS), 3 yrs naughtyslave wrote: Master_Odin wrote: SL_precious wrote: For heavens sake...this has turned into a kindergarten arguement of " I know you are but what am I" ... I was sure that running the other thread out would be the perfect opportunity for everyone to just let it go. Apparently not, you posted. <selah> Don't you have a slave to beat to take out your frustrations? Just curious.... Actually, a slave AND a submissive, if it isn't too hard to believe.....that such a 'purist' as I would stoop to such an impure thing..... <selah> There is no authority, only responsibility. 26 Oct 11, 4:08 AM Master_Odin US(KS), 3 yrs Prolixitys_Saphira wrote: *yawns* Too long, didn't read. Give it up Odin. You're only making yourself look like even a bigger narcissistic ass than you already have. I'm out. As I said, I have proven my point that you're an arrogant man who can't let things go. You're only proving it further by starting a new thread to argue over nothing. Why don't you log off and go play with your poor neglected slave? Goodbye. Not willing to endure what you inflict on others? Another shocker there. (You understand that arrogance is a virtue/compliment, right?) To address a more important topic with you *again* It is amazing that with your research skills you can't find anything to support your accusations against emma, despite having all the time in the world for ursine research. One is left to conclude that your repeated lack of response to this on-topic question is due to the irresponsible (pun intended) nature of the accusation its self. The accusation is false, and you know it is false. Like politicians overstating their resumes, you can't stand to be in the presence of someone that has actually been then and done that so you cry "foul" and "offense" where none is legitimately taken. Such childish accusations, along magnum length tangent posts are tools that you and the petulant pillow princesses of the Inane Clown Posse Chapter of the Housewife Mafia, (some of whom admit intentionally derailing threads) use do deflect *your own* attention away from *your own* perceived shortcomings, like preschoolers playing dress-up. Thank you for the excellent examples of the Chuckie-Cheezification of the site. The thread is a perfect example of why the gravitas has gravitated elsewhere. Perhaps it will convince Tanos that those that can't behave with some modicum of netiquette need to be moderated and separated so that mature adult conversation can take root again. <selah> There is no authority, only responsibility. 26 Oct 11, 11:43 AM tigerlili 3 yrs You could change this (and the original) thread title to 'Why people don't post' and the discussion would be quite similar. I originally joined the site (and have been reading for some years longer than I've actually been a member) for discussion around M/s or O/p relationships, which I see as interchangeable terms. To quote the TSR wiki "Master/slave relationships are a special case of D/s in which the dominant has ultimate authority over the submissive". My interpretation of "ultimate authority" means not sometimes, not just on the weekends or when life allows it, or when it suits one or both parties, or in the bedroom, but ALL. OF. THE. TIME. For the record, I personally don't believe there is any other kind of M/s relationship, that is, if you don't live together you may have a power exchange relationship but it isn't M/s or O/p. Yep, I said it, if you don't live with your D or s you aren't M/s. That's not to say you're M/s if you DO live together either for the record. That's also not to say I think the 'community' at large uses this same definition, but it is the definition that Tanos has asked people to use on THIS site, so we can ensure our discussions don't deteriorate the way this one has, so clearly something isn't working here. If people want more flexible definitions, I can list a few dozen other online discussion boards or 'communities' that might be of interest to you. Over the years I've seen dozens of discussions that deteriorate in the same manner as this one, where those who don't fit into the parameters of M/s relationships as defined by the TSR wiki feel slighted or invalidated when someone points it out, despite the fact that it's rarely anyone's intention for that to occur. It's like giving out recommendations on the best frozen soy desserts when you've only ever eaten dairy varieties. You might have some good suggestions, but unless you've actually tasted the soy varieties, your advice is only going to have limited value to me as someone who is lactose intolerant. Also, no one is saying that dairy is better than soy or vice versa, just that it's DIFFERENT. Crazy notion I know! I'm appalled at the behaviour of members in this thread (and all the others of the same ilk) because everyone is clearly so offended by Master Odin referring to the TSR wiki (I'll say it again, the wiki of THIS SITE, not the BDSM community at large) that they've done whatever they can to discredit him rather than acknowledge that perhaps their relationships do vary from M/s or O/p relationships me as defined in the wiki. For the sake of a clear discussion, I couldn't care less what your relationship type is, etc, but I would like to know how your relationship looks with the wiki as a baseline measure for defining an M/s relationship so I can decide without too much bother whether or not what you have to say is likely to be useful to me on the basis of our shared lifestyle or the commonalities of our relationships. Prolixity's Saphira, not to single you out (but I will), Odin asked you the same question three times and you still refused to answer it because I'm guessing you can't. You talk of enjoying logical debates, but it seems illogical that you're not able to answer a simple question about where it was implied that anything other than M/s (as defined by the wiki of this site) was in any way less valid. Instead of answering his question, you've used every diversionary tactic in the book to lambast and discredit him, in the process making yourself look very, very foolish. In my opinion, of course. I think it's unlikely this sort of behaviour would be tolerated in a court room, and it shocks me when you refer to your successful career in the field of law, especially given your contributions to this (and the original) thread. I suppose now this thread will go the same way as the last one, deteriorating into *giggles* and *x slaps x on the butt and runs away to hide* (and by the way if I wanted role play I'd go to SL, that'd have to be number two reason I don't bother posting here, the chronic derailing and silliness of threads that have potential to be educational and thought provoking) and I'll go back to what I've been doing for the last few years, which is NOT posting for the very reasons that are evident here, because clearly anyone who points out the definition of M/s as defined by this site and asks that people adhere to this terminology for the sake of cohesive discussions isn't welcome. And you call Odin a purist! Finally, and because I know someone will ask, if you're wondering why I don't start threads or promote useful discussion, I think I pretty much cleared that up in the previous paragraph. Edited because the Edit function is there to be used. Edited 26 Oct 11, 11:47 AM by tigerlili 26 Oct 11, 7:15 PM mistressK CA, 16 mths SL_precious wrote: For heavens sake...this has turned into a kindergarten arguement of " I know you are but what am I" ... I was sure that running the other thread out would be the perfect opportunity for everyone to just let it go. As the creator of the original thread, it boggles my mind. The focus and intention of my post was: people leave, they come back, it's a natural cycle of life. In fact, quote my original paragraph: "I would have titled it 'why people are leaving' but I believe that to melodramatic crap. I've been poking around web boards since about 1995, when I discovered the old BBS system. It's a cycle that happens, like the other cycles in groups of people. Doesn't matter if it's online, or real life, or whatever (if there is anything else!)" Oh well. I've not been following the apparent new fuss, as I have too many things to do in the real world. - K ------------------- "I guess it comes down to a simple choice, really. Get busy living or get busy dying." (Shawshank Redemption) Seeking single gay/straight male or slave couple for 24/7 O&P adventure of a lifetime. Next page