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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "should i or should i not?" 1 2 3 should i or should i not? (23) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Fri 14 Oct 11, 7:30 AM yelton US(AZ), 11 mths so i have been in contact with a woman via yahoo from this website. she is a slave, and i of course an owner. BUT she is in another country. she does not have a job, and helps out a local woman in exchange for board untill she can get out. in order for a t.p.e relationship i would have to pay for her to get her passport reniewed, her health checked, and a plane ticket here. roughly $1000. i have tryed owning via long distance before and it just didnt work. now she says she doesnt wish to give up on us, due to the fact i have not been able to give her the money to get here yet. ive asked her several times. and ive thought about it alot. im 20. and i know im very inexperienced. can anyone give me advice? is this worth a shot? 14 Oct 11, 7:45 AM naughtyslave US, 2 yrs is she in london? Pleaase be careful...there are so many that take people for their money. Let me ask you a little reality question....if you go through the expense to get her here..lets say after a month you find out you two do not hit it off..what then...she is not in another state where you can tell her to go back..you are trying to relocate her from another country. you cant just kick her out. If she truly wants to be yours..then there is nothing that would ever stop her from earning the money to get where she needs to get..to be yours..i know i have moved heaven and earth to be near "him" i would suggest respectfully that you find one near you and save all the heartache that is attached to such relocations.. take care His naughtyslave 14 Oct 11, 8:00 AM Master_Brisbane AU, 13 mths Y! Hello Yelton, be careful! There are many out there that are looking for entry visas etc.......I suggest you continue online with her for a while......see if she is still there in 3-6 months.........if so, she may be the one for you.........take it from an older Master.....if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. good luck in your search 14 Oct 11, 8:39 AM 943-077-319 UK, 10 mths Hi Yelton I have been in your predicament though in a vanilla setting, my advice is would be do some homework on her, get to know her via email, find out if she is on other sites, believe it saves a lot of problems if you do. I thought I was in love with a girl from the states, but I quickly discovered that she was a fake after my money, since then I have a set of guidelines that I use when I start that kind of relationship. The best advice I was given on here is to trust your instincts if it feel wrong then back away fast. Regards 319 14 Oct 11, 1:40 PM Lord_Uther UK, 6 yrs A basic rule that I have is that if they can't get themselves to me it's not going to work. If someone is expecting you to foot the bill for their transfer then chances are it's a scam of some sort. I have only ever been willing to bend this rule once and that was after many LONG LONG hours of talking cam to cam I was convinced the guy was genuine, the fact that he refused my offer of help, and still does, convinces me that I was correct & that he is genuine. Also with him living in Italy I could get a budget flight for £20-50 so not a massive risk if it didn't work out. We have down graded from prospective to friends for the time being and just seeing where life takes us. Without meaning to sound condescending I doubt at 20, and you admit inexperienced, that you have the experience to make this judgement call. As Naughty said, if she's genuine she will do everything she can to get to you or be willing to wait till the time is right. My name is Lord Uther, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair! 14 Oct 11, 3:30 PM Itokawa UK, 23 mths Ninety-nine times out of a hundred, when someone you've never met asks you for money, neither they nor the money will ever be seen again. If you're certain that she is worth meeting, you might go to London yourself. If your contact is for real, you'll enjoy a nice trip to London. If not, you'll still enjoy a nice trip to London. A win-win situation for you. 14 Oct 11, 3:46 PM SirStrict43 UK, 6 yrs I've had memos from 'ladies' before claiming to be slaves who are looking for Masters and no matter where they claim to be from the story is pretty much similar. They need money for some reason so they can get to you. They are all very convincing, one even sent me a pic of her passport but of course photoshop can work wonders. It always comes under that same number 914. SS 14 Oct 11, 4:19 PM slave_emma US(OK), 6 yrs Y! This sounds like a scam. The visa process can take months. If she doesn't have a job and the two of you aren't getting married it may be difficult for her to get a visa to come here to stay. Not to mention, the two of you should probably get to know each other BEFORE moving in together. This would mean multiple trips back and forth from the UK to the US. Even if she is real, your cost to get to know her would be well over $1000.00. I was single once and when I was looking for a partner, I limited my search to a certain radius around me because of my financial limitations. This person you are talking to needs to consider the same thing, if she is real. When I was looking for a Master, it was important that I be able to provide my own transportation to and from meeting him. I could be wrong but this sounds like someone who is trying to get money from a naive man on the internet. Best wishes, slave emma Master Howard's little girl 14 Oct 11, 5:24 PM True2life US(ID), 19 mths All of the advice given is very valid. I am amazed at how many "looking for 24/7" women who contact me have had the exact same back story - living with their auntie or uncle, parent died when they were young, previous Master went back to his wife/former slave etc. You should be very cautious about ever sending funds anywhere, much less overseas. Also sites like http://www.tineye.com/ are reverse image search sites, usually used by photographers to track down illegally used copyrighted material, but you can also find the "photos" many of these women send you used on multiple sites and checking them find a completely different profile or that they are grabbing photos from commercial sites and purporting to be in them. I always respond to such requests by stating, "If you seriously wish to serve then you will find a way to get yourself here." And I offer to reimburse expenses after the fact if it required a loan from a family member etc...and suddenly, *poof* they dissappear... 14 Oct 11, 8:12 PM Adak43 US(OR), 5 yrs Like the virtually all of the other respondents to your query, I suggest extreme caution, should you decide to go ahead. If you do, I suggest you consider doing several things (ALL of them), as follows: 1. Have her send a close-up photo of her face, BUT holding the masthead of a local (to her) newspaper near her face, so you can check the date of the paper, the city, the country, etc. AFTER that, (by several days), have her do the same sort of things (with two additional photos, A. with her passport held up to her face, so you not only get a good close up of her face, the photo on her passport. BUT, ALSO, then, a couple of days later, another photo, with the passport open to the page holding her American Visa. These two sets of actions will virtually guarantee: A. That she may be who she says she is, AND, B. That she might well be able to enter the country. 2. Try to get her to get a permanent residence visa. She probably doesn't have one, and is unlikely to be able to get one, without some very unusual career qualifications, and/or, if she comes over AND you marry her. Without that, she probably will be unable to stay in the country for very long, unless she simply fails to leave when her visa runs out, making her an illegal alien, and, essentially, puts you in the position of harboring a fugitive, making you Federal criminal, yourself. 2. SHOULD you decide to have her come over, anyway, I suggest you do the following: A. Have her fly to the nearest port of entry to you (and only send her a ticket for that, again, protecting yourself). That way, you can easily meet her at the Debarkation Gate, to (hopefully) prevent her from running off elsewhere/with someone else, etc., as/when she gets into the country. B. ONLY buy a ONE WAY ticket, AND pay for it with a CREDIT/DEBIT card. That way, if she doesn't show up, or ???, you can probably contact the airline (after a while, to keep it plausible), tell them the ticket's been lost & then plans changed, etc., and have them invalidate the ticket as a "lost ticket, with plans changed." Under those circumstances, there's a good chance you can not only get the airline to invalidate the ticket, but to credit the costs back to a credit on your card. The one way ticket may prevent her from being able to go back home, after visiting someone else, if that's what she has in mind. In any case, if it's bought with a card, the airline WILL NOT refund the price of it, except by crediting the money back to the card. Thus, this will lessen (almost eliminate) the chances of her being able to scam you out of your ticket and putting the money into her pocket, as she might be able to do otherwise, if you buy it with cash. In addition, you might want her to have a COMPLETE STD "screen", and send you the ORIGINAL of the test report BY MAIL, so you can examine it (AND, have it translated, if need be). This way, you may well avoid catching a disease you don't want. Again, I would ask for this AFTER the above cautionary steps, so you can, again, verify the name on the report. Should you decide to go ahead, I hope the above steps can be used to, at least, partially protect yourself. Good luck the adventure you're thinking about can be rewarding and good, if you truly want it, but you should protect yourself, possibly even by going over to meet her and her family, etc., after some of the above steps have been completed, to further insure she's truly real, AND IS what you want. 14 Oct 11, 10:25 PM OZMaster 2 yrs Hmmm this one is difficult, especially as she is unable to afford her own transport. Nine times out of 10 its a fake. Here are a few more tips: *Never ever use western union as it is not secure. Once you send the money, it will disappear. I have noticed a lot of scammers on websites such as these as they are free to register for it, and after chatting to a few they all insist on western union. *Get the person to send you an email. There are a lot of manuals on the internet on how to find senders IP addresses from free email accounts such as yahoo. You can then use a free IP tracer on google.com to get their location. Obviously, if its not where they say it is from i.e. Nigeria, its a scam. *Consider making him/her wait until you can take a holiday and stop by there for a day or two. Also, read up on your countries visa application process as it can be expensive and restrictive. I highly doubt all this would simply cost $1,000. Edited 14 Oct 11, 10:28 PM by OZMaster Next page