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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "A Promise is a Promise... No?" 1 2 3 4 A Promise is a Promise... No? (33) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Wed 11 May 11, 3:54 PM butterfly_63 14 mths This slave has a question for both Master's/slave's... When and if a Master makes a "promise" to Their slave, are They bound to that "promise"... and if They break that "promise" is Their slave out of line for getting emotional and upset. This slave would like to know if slaves out there would get upset and emotional if their Master made a "promise" and broke it. Vanilla relationships seem OK with breaking promises and dealing with it, life goes on. This slave wants to know if this is different in the M/s, Dom,Domme/sub relationships... are promises taken more seriously. Does a Master's promise mean as much as a slave's promise or is one more bound to the "promise" then the other....? Very curious, shayla Forever Owned, Loved and Respected by Watchdog_880 Edited Thu 12 May 11, 1:39 AM by butterfly_63 11 May 11, 4:06 PM Pet_Girl US, 14 mths shayla_0102 wrote: A Promise is a Promise... No? This slave has a question for both Master's/slave's... When and if a Master makes a "promise" to Their slave, are They bound to that "promise"... and if They break that "promise" is Their slave out of line for getting emotional and upset. This slave would like to know if slaves out there would get upset and emotional if their Master made a "promise" and broke it. Vanilla relationships seem OK with breaking promises and dealing with it, life goes on. This slave wants to know if this is different in the M/s, Dom,Domme/sub relationships... are promises taken more seriously. Does a Master's promise mean as much as a slave's promise or is one more bound to the "promise" then they other....? Very curious, shayla I think that anytime a Master makes a promise to a slave they are bound by that promise, and it is perfectly fine to get upset if said promise is not kept. Then again, I'm really not very tolerant of broken promises in vanilla relationships either. If there are extenuating circumstances, of course, exceptions may need to be made, but a man/woman is only as good as their word. If their word isn't good, well then, what's the point of ever believing a promise from them, and what good is a relationship if you can't count on them? /end rant. 11 May 11, 5:01 PM Valyrian101 US, 18 mths Neither promise is more important than the other. IMO a master is bound to their word just as a slave is bound to theirs. Both are as equally as important. I have unintentionally broken a promise to pet and she justifiably was upset over it. As was I. Respect is default. Communication is mandatory. Understanding is enlightenment. Est Solaris Oth Mithas! 11 May 11, 5:05 PM mr_dave UK, 3 yrs Y! Anytime you give someone your word on something "as with a promise" you are basically counting on their trust/opinion of you to assure them you will do as you say. Once you break your word or promise then they have every right to doubt anything you say in the future. So no matter the relationship, break your word and expect the other party to loose trust, confidence and respect for you and yes in certain cases, also get upset in the process. 11 May 11, 7:15 PM slave_emma US(OK), 6 yrs Y! A promise made to someone should be done with the same amount of thought and sincerity regardless of if it is a vanilla relationship or an M/s relationship. Each partner in a relationship is held accountable for their actions and their promises regardless of whether it is vanilla or M/s. Just as in a vanilla relationship, one partner might forgive the other for a broken promise the same forgiveness can happen in an M/s relationship. When a promise a Master made is broken, the slave can be upset. Just because you're a slave does not mean you are void of all emotion. My Master rarely makes a promise to me. I think it is important to not make promises for anything and everything. Life is unpredictable and a promise made to do something may not take place because of other external influences beyond the Master's or slave's control. When making a promise, it is important not to make a promise that has the possibility of not being able to be fulfilled and kept. Best wishes, slave emma Master Howard's little girl 11 May 11, 11:09 PM isolai AU, 16 mths A promise is a promise, regardless of relationship stance. If one frequently breaks their promises, they really arent worth being with. 11 May 11, 11:31 PM pet_ka_MJ CA, 2 yrs Pet_Girl wrote: shayla_0102 wrote: A Promise is a Promise... No? This slave has a question for both Master's/slave's... When and if a Master makes a "promise" to Their slave, are They bound to that "promise"... and if They break that "promise" is Their slave out of line for getting emotional and upset. This slave would like to know if slaves out there would get upset and emotional if their Master made a "promise" and broke it. Vanilla relationships seem OK with breaking promises and dealing with it, life goes on. This slave wants to know if this is different in the M/s, Dom,Domme/sub relationships... are promises taken more seriously. Does a Master's promise mean as much as a slave's promise or is one more bound to the "promise" then they other....? Very curious, shayla I think that anytime a Master makes a promise to a slave they are bound by that promise, and it is perfectly fine to get upset if said promise is not kept. Then again, I'm really not very tolerant of broken promises in vanilla relationships either. If there are extenuating circumstances, of course, exceptions may need to be made, but a man/woman is only as good as their word. If their word isn't good, well then, what's the point of ever believing a promise from them, and what good is a relationship if you can't count on them? /end rant. I second this rant and add... broken promise once I can see if there are acceptable circumstances... and "I forgot" is not one of those circumstances. Repeated broken promises speak to the lack of trustworthiness of the Master. If you can't trust what they say... there really isn't much of a foundation of trust for a relationship is there. I have zero tolerance for broken promises... in any kind of relationship. "It is not the end of the physical body that should worry us. Rather, our concern must be to live while we're alive - to release our inner selves from spiritual death that comes with living behind a facade designed to conform to external definitions of who and what we are." ~ Elizabeth Kubler-Ross 12 May 11, 1:00 AM SnowdropExplodes UK, 7 yrs Y! I would say that a D/O/M type needs to be able to command their s-type's trust, and that means that a promise is absolutely essential to keep. Personally, I always aim only to make a promise if I know I can and will keep it (and even then, I am cautious about it because unforeseen events can mess up plans). 12 May 11, 1:10 AM True2life US(ID), 19 mths A promise is just that... Anyone, regardless of anything, that breaks a promise, has lost their honor with the person with whom they made it. There may be extenuating circumstances which can allow the other to forgive, but a promise broken, is a promise broken. 12 May 11, 5:42 AM 668-427-918 US(AZ), 12 mths A promise is received as an act of trust...if the promise is broken, then the trust is to be quesioned. i trust my Master implicitely....and i take His word as just that...His honor bound word....as mine are to Him 12 May 11, 6:49 AM princess_adela US(WA), 20 mths Well.... i'm going to have to be the little devil's advocate here. Of course i'm also going to point out that i am a slave and not a sub. Different. If a Master promises something, and doesn't follow through with that promise, it is His right to change his mind... with no explanation. slaves live by their Master's rules. If the rules change in the middle of the game the slave must readjust and deal with it. It IS what we signed up for.... right? Or have we forgotten about that? Next page