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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "How Can We Create True NonCosnsensual Slavery?" 1 2 How Can We Create True NonCosnsensual Slavery? (19) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board (moved from Internal Enslavement). Sun 21 Nov 10, 2:38 AM AvailablePropertyDC US(DC), 18 mths Hi - I've finally found someone who wants exactly what I do - me being put into (consensual) non-consensual slavery. She's amazing. I'm sure. She's sure. Now the question: what steps can we take to make sure she has every last ounce of my power possible? We want to arrange this all in advance, and make it so there is next to no possibility I can ever back out should she not agree, that the consequences will be beyond hellish. We will do any and everything it takes both physically and legally, we just want to ensure it's inescapable. Suggestions please (besides "be careful", I'm very sure)? Thanks! 21 Nov 10, 3:18 AM bastets_daughter 2 yrs AvailablePropertyDC wrote: How Can We Create True NonCosnsensual Slavery? Hi - I've finally found someone who wants exactly what I do - me being put into (consensual) non-consensual slavery. She's amazing. I'm sure. She's sure. Now the question: what steps can we take to make sure she has every last ounce of my power possible? We want to arrange this all in advance, and make it so there is next to no possibility I can ever back out should she not agree, that the consequences will be beyond hellish. We will do any and everything it takes both physically and legally, we just want to ensure it's inescapable. Suggestions please (besides "be careful", I'm very sure)? Thanks! The 'inescapable' concerns me. If you dont want to 'escape', then you wont, will you? 21 Nov 10, 6:46 AM King_of_Shades US(WA), 18 mths Over the past several years, I have carefully considered the issues behind "true" slavery and the D/s version of slavery. The only thing I've found to be unescapable is the conclusion that true slavery is illegal in the free world. There may be a few pockets of it where this is not the case, but those are the exceptions. The reason this is such an issue in terms of consensuality is this: in such a society, you theoretically always have some recourse if you can get access to a phone or some other source of outside contact. The only way I can think to change that is to either lobby to have slavery legalized where you live (good luck with that) , or move someplace where it is indeed legal. I am open to changing this opinion if someone who understands law better than I do cares to elaborate. As far as her establishing total control over you, this can take several forms, some of which are also going to be technically illegal. Imprisonment and blackmail come to mind. A more legally acceptable way to establish control might be taking complete control of your finances. Depending on your situation, this could leave you quite vulnerable and at the mercy of your Owner's whims. 21 Nov 10, 8:14 AM Master_IanNZ NZ, 2 yrs AvailablePropertyDC wrote: me being put into (consensual) non-consensual slavery. Isn't this still consensual? I tend to agree with latter posts, it is virtually impossible these days to find legal non-consensual slavery. Good luck, Master Ian NZ 21 Nov 10, 10:25 AM mia UK, 11 yrs In order to enter a relationship where you are unable to escape, it will take a lot of work on both your parts, it's not something that can all just be 'arranged', in my experience. I am in a relationship where what he says is what goes, there is no back out, no safeword, no compromise. We got to this stage through time and trust. I have no safeword because i am sure that if he were ever to ask me to do something horrific, there would be good reason, and the chances of him doing it are tiny anyway. There are plenty of things i do, or that he does to me, that i dislike and hate, but they are done out of a mixture of submission to him (whereby i want to do them, or want to please him) or they are forced out of me (he is physically stronger than me and can force me to do anything). I am unable to escape through a number of emotional and a number of physical reasons. The emotional ones are similar to being deeply in love with someone... Why would you want to leave someone you're so in love with, if they're also in love with you? You just wouldn't. So why leave someone you're so in submission to, who is so Masterful to you? You just wouldn't. The physical ways are financial (i have no money of my own), property (i do not own the house we live in - he does), and sometimes clothing (my clothes are kept in a room with a lock and only he has the key). Of course there are 'ways out' if things were to become dangerous, as if i were to 'come out' to my mother properly, i'm sure she's put me up, lend me her clothes, etc... Equally, if things broke down for him, i know he'd release me and make sure i was sorted out. But these 'ways out' seem as scary and impossible to me as chopping off my own leg to escape being trapped - yes of course it could be done, but the thought leaves me feeling anxious, scared and so near on impossible that it effectively is. So good luck with your shared goal, but as the others have said, unless it's legally acceptable where you live to have legal slavery (which is doubtful) then you and your owner will have some hard work to do to get you to this place, which some call IE (Internal Enslavement). m, x 21 Nov 10, 3:32 PM 000-444-092 US(OH), 10 yrs Y! To legally own your slave as much as possible: 1) apply for legal Guardianship, which includes finances 2) Use the "Uniform Custodial Trust Act": An Aternative to Adult Guardianship 21 Nov 10, 6:50 PM property_of_MacCain 4 yrs To be honest, as slavery is illegal you can do it anyway you like. People break laws every day. As long as you accept your slavery and don't seek out help for your freedom... you are a slave. No amount of legal documentation will make you a better slave as guardianship is temporary and revocable. You being true to your position is really all you need. If, for instance, you are taken as a slave and you allow your rights to be stripped away, that is it. Your rights are gone as long as you don't try to get them back. As long as slavery is illegal, that is as close as it gets, because the moment you exercise your rights... they come back. Unless you are literally locked away and can't access freedom. That is still illegal- but like i said, people break laws every day. p 21 Nov 10, 10:25 PM DarkSado 4 yrs 000-444-092 wrote: To legally own your slave as much as possible: 1) apply for legal Guardianship, which includes finances 2) Use the "Uniform Custodial Trust Act": An Aternative to Adult Guardianship What 092 say, plus have her ship you blindfolded to a remote Island. DarkSado 22 Nov 10, 4:34 AM 898-443-818 US, 5 yrs i personally would say the most satisfying way to accomplish this is through IE. What is better than a slave who may be able to physically leave (isn't cuffed & chained all day long) but who cannot fathom it. The downside: it takes time, effort, and genuine work. 898-443-818 i am a slave-i have no rights, no safewords, i do not say "no" to my Master. i do not have "limits". i have entered into consensual slavery, so that may help explain the views in my post. Please visit my vegan & weightloss blog: www.foodmasochist.blogspot.com 22 Nov 10, 3:19 PM mutable 2 yrs Sell all your possessions, give her control of your finances and any health issues you may have, cut yourself off from family and friends, keep whatever communication devices she has in the home behind lock and key and, for good measure, keep you naked and securely tethered within the home - so that you have some movement from room to room, but so that you cannot escape. Presumably you will have no job. Is this the sort of thing you mean? Two things though... why do you fear the ability to leave, and why is your potential mistress even considering this? Oh, I know doing things slowly is boring and sort of negates the fantasy, but it is done so that people can be more asssured about their own welfare in the long run - s and d type both. 'We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are' Anais Nin 29 Jun 11, 5:10 PM 719-762-548 US(MA), 2 yrs An approach developed by a Dutch Mistress a while ago, Ingrid Bellemare dealt with this but also relied on a form of blackmail so........ Another possibility would be to provide your Owner with a signed model release for some rather emabarrasing fotos of you, given to her to be used ONLY if you renege on your enslavement commitment......think that would deal with the legal/blackmail problem. Next page