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	TSR : Web boards : O&P : "Dealing with a stronge minded sub" 1 2 3 4 Dealing with a stronge minded sub (39) This post is on the O&P web board. Thu 28 Oct 10, 1:41 AM T_M_Q_M_B US(WA), 2 yrs Y! Does any one out there ever had to deal with a very stronge minded sub, I dont want to treat her as a door mat, so can any one tell me there opinions..... 28 Oct 10, 2:09 AM stella_rose US(OR), 20 mths giggles softly... Sir, my favorite quote... "It means nothing to dominate the weak...it is a badge of honor, to Dominate the strong. Give Me a strong, confident, assertive woman......who kneels submissively at My feet, and I will show you a slave worth owning." this may be of use to you Sir. 28 Oct 10, 2:42 AM T_M_Q_M_B US(WA), 2 yrs Y! Well how do you dominate the stronge without making them weak, that is the real trick, but the prize is something to be proud of..... 28 Oct 10, 6:33 AM princess_adela US(WA), 20 mths T_M_Q_M_B wrote: Dealing with a stronge minded sub Does any one out there ever had to deal with a very stronge minded sub, I dont want to treat her as a door mat, so can any one tell me there opinions..... May i ask how long You have owned her?...Or IF You own her? A few more details about Your situation, Sir, would be helpful in order to submit suggestions to You. slave princess adela Edited 28 Oct 10, 6:50 AM by princess_adela 28 Oct 10, 6:40 AM Sprite US(OH), 2 yrs Sir, it is nice to see that you don't desire to treat her as a doormat, i just wish all thought along your same line. **sprite** 28 Oct 10, 7:08 AM T_M_Q_M_B US(WA), 2 yrs Y! well I met her online and she is one of a kind. She is very acute to her surroundings and is no fool. I would like to be her dom someday but dont want to take away her character. Her character is one of her best assets[ amoung other things] She is not easly fooled nor do I want to treat her as such. I just want to be around the fire without being burnt....and no I dont own her{ maybe with a shock collar} 28 Oct 10, 7:11 AM T_M_Q_M_B US(WA), 2 yrs Y! ps...I have a serious case of ADD and she is not afraid of pointing it out to me....haa 28 Oct 10, 9:49 AM Roland132 US, 2 yrs If you care for her. irregardless of whether you want to own her or not. I think you just want to be honest and open with her. sometimes the simplest solutions are best. 28 Oct 10, 12:59 PM 727-021-835 US(CT), 20 mths T_M_Q_M_B wrote: Dealing with a stronge minded sub Does any one out there ever had to deal with a very stronge minded sub, I dont want to treat her as a door mat, so can any one tell me there opinions..... I myself am a strong minded sub, I am educated and I like to think I am smart and classy I think most subs are strong minded to some point after all it takes a strong woman to give herself to her Master in the capacity that is expected of her and I feel that most Masters do not want a nodding donkey. Think how much you would have achieved when you do manage to find the buttons to press in order to control your sub it is mental as well as physical. there may be a good chance that she is testing you. Remember the saying that a sub will only break her chains in order to find stronger chains so communication is very important Edited 28 Oct 10, 1:01 PM by 727-021-835 28 Oct 10, 4:20 PM SirStrict43 UK, 6 yrs T_M_Q_M_B wrote: ps...I have a serious case of ADD and she is not afraid of pointing it out to me....haa Two thoughts spring to mind. First she is laying out a test for you [from my experience of those with ADD not a good idea]. If this is so it may be helpful to remind her of both your positions and that unless she is a clinical psychologist you probably know more about it than she. Some people with ADD, more males than females have great difficulty establishing relationships as others look too much at their ADD and not their inner qualities. I think this submissive is smart enough to see a valued individual in you and is quite rare. Secondly she may be defending her virtue until she feels she has seen a little more of your true self and believes this way of relating to you will bring it out. My suggestion is you set her tasks she finds difficult to even up the playing fied. SS 28 Oct 10, 4:28 PM Dagobert US(WA), 21 mths T_M_Q_M_B wrote: Dealing with a stronge minded sub Does any one out there ever had to deal with a very stronge minded sub, I dont want to treat her as a door mat, so can any one tell me there opinions..... My cunt has a very strong will and it was a challenge to break it without destroying the essence of who she is. My advice is three-fold: 1) repetition -- repeatedly stating your expectations of what she should be and repeatedly telling her what she is. I recommend you have her repeat it. For example, our mantra "I am a cunt and I live to serve my Master" was repeated by her so many times that I have no doubt it runs through her brain constantly. 2) exploration -- find out about her: her hopes, her dreams, her fears, her childhood, etc... Chances are that somewhere in those is the key (or keys!) as to why she is submissive in the first place. You may have to be delicate here, especially if her submissive nature has anything at all to do with past abuse or the like... you do NOT want to get into a psychotherapist role. An example is that fairly recently I found out something about cunt of which I had previously been unaware. This particular thing had happened in a very abusive way in her childhood and it also happened to be something I had planned on inflicting upon her in the future. Knowing that the particular item was associated with abuse in her mind kept me from doing it to her and potentially opening up a whole mess of psychological trauma. That sort of pitfall aside, you will be able to glean a wealth of information about her psyche and use (not exploit!) it in your training. 3) positive reinforcement -- breaking is not a negative thing... unless you don't bother to rebuild. In my case I went so far as to strip cunt down to, quite literally, "just three holes" for a shortish amount of time and then began layering the good parts about her on top of that. You will be able to weed out the good qualities of her using the exploration portion above. cunt now can rattle off all of the 'bad' stuff about herself (cunt, whore, slut, owned, piggy, etc etc etc) while still being able to understand that she is a beautiful, intelligent creature that her Master loves very much. (Note: I know that there are many here that believe that a Master cannot or should not love his/her property... I disagree very strongly!) You will, in my estimation, probably never remove every last facet of stubborness from her; and to be honest: what fun would that be? I sincerely admire your desire to not treat her as a doormat... she is, after all, the woman you have chosen to be with; whether girlfriend, wife, lover, fucktoy, or slave. As a human there are certain things she is entitled to no matter what her role in your household may be. I am the proud owner of dagoberts_cunt. She lives to serve me in all ways until the end of her days. Next page