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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMITS”?" 1 2 3 4 HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMITS”? (36) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board (moved from Website help). Mon 30 Aug 10, 8:17 PM moutas FR, 3 yrs I read several threads about no-limits slavery. I noticed that most of no-limits slaves said that they were no-limits because they know that their Master/Mistress will never ask them to reach extreme limits. So I would like to know if there are here some slaves who are deeply ready to obey their owners even beyond any limit. Totally. A bit like true religious zealots have no limits in their devotion to their God (for example: suicide bombers). Probably it is imaginable about sexuality (bestiality is not forbidden in a lot of countries…), but what about more, in the limits of human imagination? I think that clear and frank replies would be very instructive and place anyone in reality on the scale of M/s relationship... Personally, I can easily imagine a slave who is totally “no-limits” because she/he thinks that she/he is only the tool of her/his owner. Yet I think that even if simple injury is a limit for some of you, any testimony is here welcome, of course! 30 Aug 10, 8:26 PM mia UK, 10 yrs I have no limits. He knows what is important to me, such as contact with specific family members, specific friends, etc but there are no limits as to what he can do to me in terms of BDSM and no limits in terms of how he can control my life. I know he will not ask me to chop off my arm or run anyone over in my car, cos he's not a dickhead. There have been times, when receiving pain, where had i had limits or a safeword, i would have used them. At the time, the things were awful, but afterwards it makes me glad i have no control, as it would be damaging to our dynamic/relationship. If there were medical or physical limits, then i know he would respect these because they would not be imposed by me, but by something beyond both of our control. m, x 30 Aug 10, 11:28 PM 898-443-818 US, 4 yrs i agree with what mia said. While it can be an amusing devil's advocate to say "What if He wanted you to kill your neighbor with an axe!!!" in the real world that is not what we are discussing. We are discussing control of the slave and things done to the slave. In that more realistic realm, i for one have no limits. my last decision was when i was married to and collared by my Master. There have been times as well i would say when i would have used a safeword if i had it - cuz whatever it was seemed to much at the time. But afterward you realized it was just a mental boundary. i am not physically damaged from anything we have done so obviously i am fine and He has never gone that far. i would say it is a unique and, for me, desirable situation to be in, although i am not implying it is right for everyone. i am also happy that i didn't have one, didn't have that choice as well, once the moment has passed. Again, while it may not be right for everyone, it is what we desire. i think it is a very interesting & insightful topic Glinda. 898-443-818 i am a slave-i have no rights, no safewords, i do not say "no" to my Master. i do not have "limits". i have entered into consensual slavery, so that may help explain the views in my post. 30 Aug 10, 11:29 PM 898-443-818 US, 4 yrs Glinda wrote: mia wrote: I have no limits. There have been times, when receiving pain, where had i had limits or a safeword, i would have used them. At the time, the things were awful, but afterwards it makes me glad i have no control, as it would be damaging to our dynamic/relationship. m, x When you say "the things were awful", do you mean awful in a pleasurable way? I hope you don't mind me asking but If you aren't getting enjoyment or some kind of satisfaction from these "things" then what do you get out of the relationship? if i may answer, just in my opinion, they aren't always pleasurable in the moment-but being made to do things, endure things that aren't "Fun" is what MAKES them fun twisted, i know! 898-443-818 i am a slave-i have no rights, no safewords, i do not say "no" to my Master. i do not have "limits". i have entered into consensual slavery, so that may help explain the views in my post. 31 Aug 10, 6:38 PM Missus US(TX), 2 yrs The only limits i've expressed to Sir are no fecal or water sports, no age play, no anal due to bad past experiences i no longer enjoy it and He's expressed no outside people as He's a deeply passionate person and feels it would be wrong. Other than this there are no limits in O/our play, Sir knows what He likes and He knows that i'm willing to let Him "hurt" me as much as He wants no matter if the scene gets a tad bloody or leaves bruises it's what i personally enjoy, and as He says, me giving Him that power let Him take my life into His hands *literally* makes it all the better for Him. Recently Master has expressed something new to this girl that He would like to bring into O/our lives. Something He had in a dream involving this girl before W/we ever got together. He now wants me to tie HIM down and cause the pain back. This girl has only ever been dominate towards other females so to be asked this of Sir is a tad strange but i feel i can do as He asks because it's what He wants, which makes it automatically what His girl wants to do for Him. Although, lol He's already decided His safe word is Mango in case i try to go a tad to far. women in her greatest perfection was made to serve and obey Man. 31 Aug 10, 6:47 PM Lord_Uther UK, 6 yrs For me no limits means no limits...for the slave. A slave should be willing to do whatever I ask. The limits are for me to set and a relationship of trust & understanding should develop with a Master knowing how far he can or should push. Someone once posted on here something I really liked and have adopted (sorry for the life me I can't remember who). If I asked my slave to jump off of a tower block he would do so unhesitatingly and without looking because he would trust me to have dealt with all the consequences so that he could do so safely. My name is Lord Uther, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair! 1 Sep 10, 1:26 PM goreankajira US(OH), 4 yrs Y! i have no limits, or i guess i should say that the only limits i have are the limits in which Master also has which is basically the nothing against the law, not causing permanent damage and such. This is my opinion: A slave should be able to adopt on their Masters limits in order to be a good match. While the safety and well being of the slave is always a factor at some point the slave needs to hand that completely over to their Master, entrusting them that they will always keep their property safe and unharmed, as an injured slave is a useless slave. 1 Sep 10, 2:52 PM Sir_Aldric 4 yrs Personally I think the "no-limits" is a interesting optical illusion within consensual slavery where two people can fascinated glaze at. In the moment one of them says: "nah, don't like this and that any more", the bubble collapses and the illusion is over. Is that bad? No, it is the reality check. People are simply too complicated to maintain something like real "no-limits" for a longer period of time. Sir Aldric Relax, life is too short to get upset. 1 Sep 10, 3:23 PM mia UK, 10 yrs Sir_Aldric wrote: Personally I think the "no-limits" is a interesting optical illusion within consensual slavery where two people can fascinated glaze at. In the moment one of them says: "nah, don't like this and that any more", the bubble collapses and the illusion is over. Is that bad? No, it is the reality check. People are simply too complicated to maintain something like real "no-limits" for a longer period of time. Sir Aldric Hmm, i'm going to have to disagree here. If there is a deal braker, then i can see there are problems with what i'm going to say, but in most cases the "nah, don't like this and that any more" should not a limit make. A Master/Mistress may decide that their sub's enjoyment of this activity is important and that this statement communicates that their enjoyment is over. However, if the activity is more important to the D-type's enjoyment, then i think the D-type should override their s-type's preference, if it is indeed only that. The above i have argued from an M/s point of view. Other D/s and S&M points of view could well look different. But if we are to argue that a 'slave' is the property of his or her owner, then i don't see how they can have limits without good reason. m, x 1 Sep 10, 3:56 PM pet_ka_MJ CA, 2 yrs jjsslave wrote: i have no limits, or i guess i should say that the only limits i have are the limits in which Master also has which is basically the nothing against the law, not causing permanent damage and such. This is my opinion: A slave should be able to adopt on their Masters limits in order to be a good match. While the safety and well being of the slave is always a factor at some point the slave needs to hand that completely over to their Master, entrusting them that they will always keep their property safe and unharmed, as an injured slave is a useless slave. I think this pretty much sums up this issue for me as well. The important piece here is to make sure you have a compatible Master... not the first Master who comes along. As the old saying goes you want Mr. Right... NOT Mr. Right Now. A lot of work has gone into finding the right Master for me... making sure my Master's limits were compatible with mine or if there was something he was interested in that I was not particularly, that it was not a deal breaker. So, as my Master and I move to deepen our M/s dynamic I too can say I am a no limits slave. Yet, I also think this is nothing special to brag about because I did my homework. I made darn sure the person I was giving my life too was the right person... on all levels, both vanilla and lifestyle and I made sure we had compatible life goals, values and limits. I know without a doubt, that my Master will always look out for my physical and psychological well-being independant of our M/s dynamic. When I read these threads about being no-limits versus something else... I always get the impression that a silent competition is taking place... I am a no limits slave because I will do X, Y and Z and I don't like it, but I do it anyway because it pleases my Master. It almost sounds like the slave is "taking it for the team" kind of thing and I think... how sad and I am always left wondering how sustainable this is in the long run. Given that the average M/s relationship lasts 3-5 years (there is a TSR thread on this topic somewhere and a survery)... I would have to say not very. I would be curious to hear from M/s couples who have been together 20-30 years and learn their perspective on the topic of "no-limits." With courage you will dare to take risks, have the strength to be compassionate, and the wisdom to be humble. Courage is the foundation of integrity. - Keshavan Nair Edited 1 Sep 10, 3:58 PM by pet_ka_MJ 1 Sep 10, 4:04 PM mia UK, 10 yrs pet_ka_MJ wrote: When I read these threads about being no-limits versus something else... I always get the impression that a silent competition is taking place... I am a no limits slave because I will do X, Y and Z and I don't like it, but I do it anyway because it pleases my Master. It almost sounds like the slave is "taking it for the team" kind of thing and I think... how sad and I am always left wondering how sustainable this is in the long run. Given that the average M/s relationship lasts 3-5 years (there is a TSR thread on this topic somewhere and a survery)... I would have to say not very. I would be curious to hear from M/s couples who have been together 20-30 years and learn their perspective on the topic of "no-limits." Whilst not together that long, so unable to comment on that bit, i do agree with you on it sometimes appearing as a competition. Having 'no limits' doesn't mean you are constantly subjected to things that are difficult, or you are constantly being pushed to some 'break point' or something. I can say i have 'no limits' meaning pretty much what you've said about knowing i've found someone who i can trust, who knows all aspects of me and what i can cope with, what i can struggle with and what i cannot cope with. Having 'no limits' is as much worrying at times as it is freeing at others. In my lack of responsibility in some matters, i have lack of freedom in some too. m, x Edited 1 Sep 10, 4:05 PM by mia Next page