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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Masters request" 1 2 3 Masters request (21) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 23 Jul 10, 9:41 AM tia1982 AU, 2 yrs Sir_Aldric wrote: slave_emma wrote: ..all my Master has to do is look at me a certain way and I know I am on notice, so things typically don't escalate into a need for punishment. Besides that, silence and ignoring always works, since they need the attention so much. Sir Aldric I would also agree, I think the worst thing I can think of is ignoring me or giving me a look. I also have a deep need to please and once Sir gave me a look and I knew I had stepped over a line, and straight away apologised and made it up to him. Sir has tried some spanking etc in the past, but this is definitely the worst (I normally enjoy a spanking or flogging!). 23 Jul 10, 12:12 PM Master4536 US(IL), 22 mths - Punishments - In my home, punishments are designed specifically for the slave and his training; to swiftly extinguish an unwanted behavior. I would never consider taking in a slave until I knew what they loved and hated, and I make it very clear that I am not into BdSm as games or entertainment. At the moment of the slave making an error, the slave is clearly told what he had done wrong, and I make sure he acknowledges and understands. He is given the opportunity to learn and change. Random punishments for actions the slave had no idea were wrong is detrimental to long-term training. If punishment must be given, the slave is always told why the punishment is being delivered, and afterwards the slave must explain what he will do differently in the future should a similar situation arise. Because punishments should be rare, they are always surprisingly extreme but not always physical. The better punishments are a well choreographed combination of mental and physical, and often its shape reflects the slave's earlier transgression. For example, poor cooking results in a 48 hour fast, and being slow to satisfy me sexually could result in intense CBT. Remember, the slave must permanently learn from this punishment. I usually save punishments and rewards until the end of the day. Punishments never cancel out a reward, and vise versa, and are often given in the same evening. This allows for highly targeted training, swift results, and prevents the slave from making a game of it by doing something good in an attempt to cancel out an impending punishment. But, most importantly, I emphasize from the beginning that I am most upset about punishing the slave because... 1. It emphasizes the slave's stupidity because he had already been told once. 2. It brings unwanted attention to the slave TWICE in one day; once when the error occurred and then again later in the day during punishment. 3. It takes unnecessary time out of my day to create and deliver the punishment when I should be relaxing. 4. It forces me to reconsider the slave's value and if I had made the right decision to take him in. ...so, the weight of a slave's error and the resulting punishment can have a far greater impact than just the error, amplifying my disappointment in the slave. These 4 points are always mentioned during the punishment. More interesting is how rewarding a slave for exceptional behavior will instill eagerness and happiness in a slave, making him very content and actually more intelligent. While punishments can define what is bad, the slave must know what is good. It is far easier for him to follow the correct road than for him to have to guess what it is the correct path from a long list of bad roads and then live in constant fear if a new road is bad or not. I like my slaves to be confident and eager to please, so I reward for excellent driving, give one caution sign if necessary, and then punish only if they ignore the warning. You will never be able to beat devotion into a slave. It must be offered freely by the slave in exchange for your trust and caring. When you diminish your trust, they will diminish their devotion. So to build trust, make your rules very clear and specific so they can lead a life free of fear, and offering all they can to you as their protector and Master. To the non-masochistic slaves, if a Master beats you without any reason other than to "prove his dominance" or sets you up for failure just as a reason to beat you for his own sadistic pleasure, then HE has a mental problem and you should get out of there. The relationship isn't doing anyone any good, because there is no way in Hell that a slave could or should change their Master, or to even expect their Master to change. Such abuse has nothing to do with a Master-slave relationship or training. In a good relationship, there is a beautiful balance created by the symbiosis. The security and confidence in a high quality leash goes both ways, and my training's primary goal is to create a very strong leash; not to the slave's collar, but to his heart and soul. Edited 23 Jul 10, 12:28 PM by Master4536 26 Jul 10, 12:30 PM charlotte AU, 2 yrs 541-836-721 wrote: charlotte wrote: 541-836-721 wrote: With a past Master that I had I had read about "figging" and for some reason it really turned on this slave. So Master decided to give me the figging and OMG! I understand why they call this punishment and/or torture!! He only let me suffer for 2 minutes but he also told me to expect this when I do misbehave to exact this punishment. For him my response was "Master I will be Your best slave ever!!"... please may i ask what "figging" is, i have never heard of this before, thanks Figging was used in the Victorian era to give horses spunk by taking a piece of fresh ginger root shaped as a butt plug and then placed up the arse. From my past experience with figging, ginger is hot when it comes into contact with the innerds of one's ass. The entire two minutes that I could last before crying red was that I was quite literally hopping over the bed as I was hogtied with ass up. Master thought this quite entertaining and this slave never asked to "try" a punishment she did not deserve, lol! Oh and past Master was a sadist... that would explain why he obliged in my "trying" this punishment, lol! Here is a link that explains as well.. http://www.scony.com/figging.html thank you for the info, i defintly wont be asking to be figged,, lol,, 26 Jul 10, 6:09 PM Sprite US(OH), 2 yrs charlotte wrote: 541-836-721 wrote: charlotte wrote: 541-836-721 wrote: With a past Master that I had I had read about "figging" and for some reason it really turned on this slave. So Master decided to give me the figging and OMG! I understand why they call this punishment and/or torture!! He only let me suffer for 2 minutes but he also told me to expect this when I do misbehave to exact this punishment. For him my response was "Master I will be Your best slave ever!!"... please may i ask what "figging" is, i have never heard of this before, thanks Figging was used in the Victorian era to give horses spunk by taking a piece of fresh ginger root shaped as a butt plug and then placed up the arse. From my past experience with figging, ginger is hot when it comes into contact with the innerds of one's ass. The entire two minutes that I could last before crying red was that I was quite literally hopping over the bed as I was hogtied with ass up. Master thought this quite entertaining and this slave never asked to "try" a punishment she did not deserve, lol! Oh and past Master was a sadist... that would explain why he obliged in my "trying" this punishment, lol! Here is a link that explains as well.. http://www.scony.com/figging.html thank you for the info, i defintly wont be asking to be figged,, lol,, OMG..that sounds like it would hurt a lot. This girl hopes her Master does not know about that. lol... though she is very rarely punished as Master just needs to glance at her in a certain way and she knows and corrects herself now. -Master's pet Always- 26 Jul 10, 6:10 PM Sprite US(OH), 2 yrs Tia1982 wrote: Sir_Aldric wrote: slave_emma wrote: ..all my Master has to do is look at me a certain way and I know I am on notice, so things typically don't escalate into a need for punishment. Besides that, silence and ignoring always works, since they need the attention so much. Sir Aldric I would also agree, I think the worst thing I can think of is ignoring me or giving me a look. I also have a deep need to please and once Sir gave me a look and I knew I had stepped over a line, and straight away apologised and made it up to him. Sir has tried some spanking etc in the past, but this is definitely the worst (I normally enjoy a spanking or flogging!). This girl would have to agree with all here...ignoring is the worst thing Master could do, well that and not allowing his girl to please him sexually. -Master's pet Always- 28 Jul 10, 4:57 PM 725-955-453 US(TN), 2 yrs Im Master Nick, sorry to hear you are having a difficult time with this let me see if I can help you in some way. I have diffrent outlooks on punishments but first off are you ready to give up your free will? Once that is done there is no turning back, if he is trying to break your free will it sounds like there is a line that you will not cross, and he does not like that as a Master to gain the free will of your slave is the number one acomplishment for a Master it is then the Master gains full controll of his slave her everyday choices, once you as a Slave release that controll into his hands you no longer have a say in anything. My Slave known as ( Silent Slave ) striped me of everything at one point because I abused my gift never phyisicly but emotionaly, I would turn cold to her I took the controll to far she willing gave up her free will but at the time as a Master I was not ready for that I broke her down and when I lost everything it was only then that it was clear where I went wrong. In any case I can give you my personaly opions on anything you need however I do not want to cause punishment for you. Let me no if I can help. 31 Jul 10, 1:34 AM MeluthTur US(TN), 6 yrs £ Y! Severe physical punishments have become rare. First, caoimhe, as her limits, and tolerance levels have risen, so disappears a punishment or two. Second, I am a more phsycological type when it comes to punishment. And more often than not, ignoring, or removing her from My presence seems to work most effectively. Tho I have thought of some very good phsycological punishments, caoimhe has not ever put herself into position for Me to try them out. *sighs* Guessing that is a blessing for O/one of U/us. OK.before you all tell Me again I am Evil...she is a good girl and I am proud of her very much. And it does hurt a Master's heart to have to severely punish their slave. That in itself is also a punishment. Respectfully MeluthTur Edited 31 Jul 10, 1:45 AM by MeluthTur 5 Aug 10, 5:01 PM Be_loved US(AR), 23 mths If I make a mistake, Master is swift to tell me and sits me down to explain what it is I have done wrong. Upon first mistakes, he never punishes me. He just talks to me about it. If I, after being told that what I did was undesirable, do it again, then Master punishes me, which varies from a spank ( if it's mild to moderate), being sexually deprived (moderate to severe) or to being vanished from the room (if I have offended Him greatly). Another method He uses is the silent treatment. 29 Aug 10, 6:04 AM charlotte AU, 2 yrs Master has a punishment cane that is used on me, i usually have 5 very sharp wacks on rear end then it is over and done with, W/we do discuss it first, He will ask if i think i deserve to b punished, i do try to have a very good reason why i should not be, but its never that good,lol,, Master has said He will never want to break my spirit, He has a great more control over me now, i am free in my vanilla world as in going to work and doing what i have to do, but i am still under His control and i report my whereabouts to Him at all times, does that mean He has my free will,, 29 Aug 10, 4:12 PM MasterLark US(VA), 6 yrs Y! I agree with: -- silence and ignoring -- a certain look -- plus that which the slave values being taken away (I know that's a broad statement but it need to fit the specific personality) But I also agree with the point that it may be cause for the Master to re-examine the conditions and see how He may inadvertently "contribute" to this and what may need to be done to change the surrounding conditions to get the behavior desired. Harsh physical punishment strikes me as a last resort which may actually signal the relationship cannot work going forward. Next page