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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Masters/Mistresses who command Mastery?" 1 2 Masters/Mistresses who command Mastery? (16) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Mon 19 Jul 10, 7:01 AM 514-276-417 US(MI), 22 mths Something I've often wondered about in Master and slave relationships is if the Master commands the slave to be dominant and act as a Master, how would that work? Obviously the slave would want to please her/his Master by obeying, but when one's heart is so deeply invested in being a slave and submissive, is it even possible for a slave to play the role of Master to please him? Say, Master desires to be spanked, or Mistress wants to be led about on a leash. Have any of the slaves or subs here been asked to do that? What was it like for you? Masters or Mistresses, if I may, I'd like to ask for your perspective on it too. I know, personally, that it would be difficult for me to do something like that, but I'd love to hear what you folks think. Y/yours, eirinn 19 Jul 10, 7:17 AM 184-503-394 US(WI), 2 yrs Y! i have Topped my Lord a few times. He is a switch with more Dominant tendings. It was difficult for me to do it (i don't like hurting anyone, especially Him, at all). Eventually, i learned how to just 'play' the role. Although, i'm not fond of it, i will do it for Him. 19 Jul 10, 10:16 AM Master_IanNZ NZ, 2 yrs Personally I can't see why a D/O/M might want to have their slave 'Master' them, I suppose it could happen in some form - but I must admit I have difficulty getting my head around why a D/O/M would even want to do this. Each to their own, I guess (if indeed this does happen)! Master Ian 19 Jul 10, 1:21 PM SirSeven 3 yrs I know this isn't exactly what you asked but I thought I would give my .02-cents: I don't require my slaves top D/O/Ms but I do enjoy having them top other subs/slaves occasionally. So far none have disappointed me when I've instructed them to do so. Maybe it's easier for them to top other s-types than it is for them to top d-types? Sir Seven To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, be nothing. -Elbert Hubbard 19 Jul 10, 2:39 PM curious_bina US(TN), 2 yrs To be blunt this slave thinks the idea is impossible. Unless the Master is a switch and if so that should be known from the beginning. The closest Bina can come to think of that is by "resist," when a Master wants their slave to act resistant. Possibly wrestling even. It would also depend on the amount of protocol and how internally enslaved one is. Bina thinks a slave deeply submissive wouldn't be able to top, and if told to might cause emotional problems after. This slave most definitely couldn't and wouldn't. She also knows her Master wouldn't ask her to so it's not an issue. Hope you are well, Bina Always the curious one ~ His bina 19 Jul 10, 4:02 PM slave_of_The_Tesh US(FL), 2 yrs 184-503-394 wrote: i have Topped my Lord a few times. He is a switch with more Dominant tendings. It was difficult for me to do it (i don't like hurting anyone, especially Him, at all). Eventually, i learned how to just 'play' the role. Although, i'm not fond of it, i will do it for Him. This. My Master is also a switch with Dominant leanings, and I have known about that from the beginning. It doesn't happen often, but sometimes He wants to be the slave - to the point of calling me Mistress, which is just plain WEIRD and uncomfortable for me. But it makes Him happy, and He doesn't ask it of me much. Makes it easier for me to handle. I hate doing it, but I do it for Him. His Beloved Owned and loved by The_Tesh This post has probably been edited for spelling/grammar because I'm weird like that. Edited 19 Jul 10, 4:03 PM by slave_of_The_Tesh 19 Jul 10, 5:29 PM EvaMaria US(CA), 3 yrs Both C and I occasionally like for me to be the aggressor sexually although it's not to an extent beyond what any conventionally-minded couple would do. But I think even while many M/s relationships include D/s type sexual practices it isn't a necessity - or that the roles have to correspond with their respective roles in the relationship overall. Eva (The property formerly known as Camille ) 20 Jul 10, 4:39 AM 898-443-818 US, 5 yrs i can honestly say He would never ask it-and i do believe it would be psychologically & physically impossible for me. An interesting concept though, while it would never happen in our house 898-443-818 i am a slave-i have no rights, no safewords, i do not say "no" to my Master. i do not have "limits". i have entered into consensual slavery, so that may help explain the views in my post. 20 Jul 10, 6:20 AM 514-276-417 US(MI), 22 mths Thank you all so much for shedding light on my question in the OP! My instinct tells me that a sub or slave who deeply identifies as a sub/slave would have trouble with this assignment. Then again, a M/O/D might never ask to be dominated because he/she had a deep identity as a Master, Owner, or Dominant. Then yet again, Master's whim is law (for me it would be anyway--but each relationship or arrangement is different) and for him to ask me to go against my very nature is not out of the parameters of his authority. But, if he were a "good" Master, if I can use that relative and complicated term, he might never ask me to! If he did, I would obey him, though I might do it through my tears. What nuanced and fantastic things our various lifestyles are! Thank you all again for taking the time to respond to my humble query. Y/yours, love and namaste, eirinn 20 Jul 10, 6:24 AM Jane_Doe 2 yrs 514-276-417 wrote: Masters/Mistresses who command Mastery? Something I've often wondered about in Master and slave relationships is if the Master commands the slave to be dominant and act as a Master, how would that work? Obviously the slave would want to please her/his Master by obeying, but when one's heart is so deeply invested in being a slave and submissive, is it even possible for a slave to play the role of Master to please him? Say, Master desires to be spanked, or Mistress wants to be led about on a leash. Have any of the slaves or subs here been asked to do that? What was it like for you? Masters or Mistresses, if I may, I'd like to ask for your perspective on it too. I know, personally, that it would be difficult for me to do something like that, but I'd love to hear what you folks think. Y/yours, eirinn After some thought on this topic, if a Master/ Mistress orders His/ Her slave to dominate them, then surely a slave would try their best to carry out that command? After all, it is their will, and even though it may be most challenging, an order is an order. Although this may very well be different for D/s, as things aren't so black and white. This girl can see how it might be particularly difficult, and some slaves may feel they cannot carry it out as they are ingrained as a slave, but if this one were to be ordered to do so, she would approach it like any other command, and try her best to carry it out. Sir did mention trying it out one day of the year, so he can see how well his property performs; as he wishes her to dominate a submissive female in the future. This girl has never felt such bliss, when her hands are bound above her head with her Master's eyes laid upon her 20 Jul 10, 8:00 AM 514-276-417 US(MI), 22 mths Dear v, It seems to me a wise thing your Master is proposing. A dear friend of mine once said that a Master ought not to inflict something on his slave that he hadn't already tried for himself. An offshoot of this OP, then, I guess, is to ask whether or not it is necessary for a Master to experience slavery or a Dominant to experience submission to understand the complex emotional and psychological responses. Masters/Doms/Mistresses/Dommes: Would you use a possibly painful new toy on your slave/sub without trying it out beforehand on yourself? Anyway, dear v, if your Master doesn't object, I would love to hear about your experience as "Mistress for a day!" Y/yours, eirinn Next page