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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Masters,may i ask a question please.." 1 2 3 4 Masters,may i ask a question please.. (39) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Thu 15 Jul 10, 12:50 AM naughtyslave US, 2 yrs my apologies if this has been asked before. i was wondering when Masters are seeking a new sub or slave which would be more rewarding to them. Would a Master prefer a sub/slave with basic training or to "mold" a new one to be exactly what they are looking for? Would the new one provide better excitement then the trained because she provides more challenges? Which is more appealing a clean canvas or one with the skyline already painted? Was curious as there seems to be a few of us here with basic training that are unowned. thank You for Your time... Take care, naughty 15 Jul 10, 2:11 AM DrakeKing125 US(GA), 21 mths Y! Bieng a semi-new Master, I think that a new slave with some basic training would be nice so that there is a step up on the training. I can see that there would be a bit of romance in a blank canvas of a slave, to an expert artist a blank canvas has infinite possibilities. New to this life, but I know some mean little tricks. 15 Jul 10, 3:29 AM weanderson US(IA), 2 yrs Y! To be honest it is really dependant on the Master, there are pro's and con's that should be looked at and considered, a “new” or not formally trained slave has the pro's that they have NOT learned “bad” habits or traits, but a con is then the Master will have to spend a lot more time and detailed training to mold the new slave into what He deems is pleasing and desirable to His likes and dislikes. Now for a “trained” the pro's are the Master does not have to spend as much detailed and intense training time with the “trained” and can do other thing's, but the con's could be the trained slave may have developed over the years bad habit's and or traits, so it really is up to the Master and what He is seeking and looking for, however with that being said, there is nothing wrong or less distracting for a “new” slave because at one point WE all where new and a Master needs to be open minded and or fully judge a “new” slave to a “trained” slave, it really is what at that time the Master is seeking and looking for. 15 Jul 10, 5:57 AM TheConstantGardener US(MD), 22 mths NaughtySlave wrote: Masters,may i ask a question please.. my apologies if this has been asked before. i was wondering when Masters are seeking a new sub or slave which would be more rewarding to them. Would a Master prefer a sub/slave with basic training or to "mold" a new one to be exactly what they are looking for? Would the new one provide better excitement then the trained because she provides more challenges? Which is more appealing a clean canvas or one with the skyline already painted? Was curious as there seems to be a few of us here with basic training that are unowned. thank You for Your time... Honestly in my opinion there is no such thing as an 'untrained' slave. Every slave is a lump of clay and that clay has been shaped in some shape for form either in a previous D/s relationship or simply by their own personal views and experiences they've had in life. There is no blank canvas. There is just the slave as they are the moment you accept them. And that is the key of the matter is whether a slave is accepted full or not. Whether trained by a Master or by social expectations of a previous life the task and goal is the same. To shape and cultivate behavior. Its not a matter of being 'trained' or 'untrained' but if that training is compatible with that of the new Master. If you have a more laid back Master who believes a slave's work is their reward and match them with a slave who's used to physical compensation being it reward or 'punishment'. Its not going to go as smoothly as if that slave transitioned to a Master who likes to treat their slaves like 'good little sluts' and use sexual release/satisfaction like a carrot on a string. And even in 'untrained' subs, a common problem is their pre-conditioning they have an idea of what a sub is and that is not always what a Master wants them to be as a sub. So a new sub could think its all about the whips and hard treatment and being used as a sex object and get a rude awakening when if they get a Master who's discipline involves working out, house work, and dietary limitations. So every slave, whether trained or untrained has an idea of what they think being a sub is all about. Whether its something learned from a previous Master or something created out of one's imagination. But on that I think the important thing is a sentiment you're read in one of my previous posts. Clay does not shape clay. Its not a slaves place to alter or shape their behavior. By neglecting to share or 'undoing' their training on their own. They do something a slave shouldn't do to a Master and that is taking away the power of choice. Their previous training might be something a Master can build on and if not a Master can sculpt away the behavior to their liking. Honestly, to me before accepting someone as a slave I have to first accept them as a person and who they are as a result of the sum of their experiences. If a slave has had a previous Master that training is a part of who they are. Just like the values and ideals we learn from our parents, teachers, friends, or any other important figure in our lives. 15 Jul 10, 6:00 AM Malkinius US(IL), 5 yrs Greetings NaughtySlave.... NaughtySlave wrote: my apologies if this has been asked before. i was wondering when Masters are seeking a new sub or slave which would be more rewarding to them. Would a Master prefer a sub/slave with basic training or to "mold" a new one to be exactly what they are looking for? Would the new one provide better excitement then the trained because she provides more challenges? Which is more appealing a clean canvas or one with the skyline already painted? Was curious as there seems to be a few of us here with basic training that are unowned. thank You for Your time... This is an interesting question. In my case, it really depends. If I am just working with someone and do not intend that they be a long term part of my house, then the more training I can do with them, the better. But I don't mind polishing some skills either for those with experience or giving someone some experience in a different style of slavery. If it is someone who will be around a while, more knowledge of slavery is better as they can more easily help me in training others. So...the answer for me is...BOTH! It really comes down to the intention of my interaction with the slave. Now, if any slightly trained or experienced slaves are looking, I wouldn't mind them contacting me. I know that for a long term owner I am not what most want, but with the right person, we can see what will happen. <grins> Be well..... Malkinius 15 Jul 10, 8:46 AM Sir_Aldric 4 yrs Dear Naughty, Personally it makes no difference to me whether new or trained. It is just the personality that counts. Sir Aldric Relax, life is too short to get upset. 15 Jul 10, 10:29 AM ChocolateChef US(FL), 3 yrs I agree with SIR ALTIC. It is the personality of the slave and how it fits with the Master that is the most important. 15 Jul 10, 10:30 AM ChocolateChef US(FL), 3 yrs Sorry about the misspelling SIR ALDRIC. 15 Jul 10, 10:34 AM Sir_Aldric 4 yrs ChocolateChef wrote: Sorry about the misspelling SIR ALDRIC. No problem. Also there is a nice feature that you can (re)edit your own posts here. Quite handy for all those little typos.. Relax, life is too short to get upset. 15 Jul 10, 12:05 PM SirStrict43 UK, 6 yrs in all honesty a lot depends on the Master. He will choose a slave that he believes fits his ideals. If he has been wise even breaking down old training habits will prove to be not without diffiulty. A master who in desperation aquires a submissive for the sake of it may find difficulties arising. Even the same Master with a previously untrained submissive may have problems due to his lack of experience. When all is said and done blame never lies entirely with one party except for very rare instances. SS 15 Jul 10, 2:15 PM MarqKDsade US(WI), 2 yrs Y! I agree with everything posted so far. Personality is the most important thing and anyone that is willing can be trained to the desires of the Master. I love a challenge and both newbies and experienced can be a challenge. The BDSM life is based on trust and honesty and as long as both parties are honest with each other and trust one another (and that takes time)any situation can work. Just make sure that your and any potential Dom that you consider have the same expectations. I heard it accurately put once... when you are bound and gagged is NOT the time to realize you have different expectations. Next page