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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Masters" 1 2 Masters (12) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board (moved from Internal Enslavement). Fri 25 Jun 10, 5:04 AM 793-133-975 CA, 23 mths How extreme do masters treat their slave(s)? How do slaves deal with the fear. if a slave has no rights, how do they protect themselves? 25 Jun 10, 5:14 AM concise US(CA), 2 yrs if a slave has no rights, how do they protect themselves? By taking the time to get to know who you are getting into a relationship with and knowing what their agenda is. If someone values, goals, desires, kinks whatever are totally different from yours then it's probably not a good idea to become involved with this person. If you watch and wait long enough people will always tell you who they are. 26 Jun 10, 5:40 AM slave_emma US(OK), 6 yrs Y! 793-133-975 wrote: Masters How extreme do masters treat their slave(s)? How do slaves deal with the fear. if a slave has no rights, how do they protect themselves? What do you mean by extreme Master? The reason I ask is this can mean many different things to different people. Are you speaking only in terms of sexual interests or how you are treated on a day to day basis? I've been told by some that my sexual interests are extreme, while others including myself do not view my interests as extreme. I've also been told that giving up full control to someone else is extreme and I do not view this as extreme. I feel it is important to find a Master that is a good match for you. I would worry less about how extreme he or she is and more about how well the two of you relate. After my first failed M/s relationship, I sat down and thought about what I wanted out of a relationship and I looked for a Master that had those specific qualities. It took some time to find the right Master for me and I rejected a lot of potentials along the way, but it was worth it. Before I became Master Howard's slave I spent a fair amount of time getting to know him and we still spend a lot of time communicating with each other. I think the fact that we are able to talk to each other goes a long way to making our relationship work. I have never been scared of my Master. One of the things I wanted out of my relationship was not to live in fear and when I met someone who did give me a negative vibe or if for some reason I felt scared, I would not pursue the relationship or friendship. Best wishes, slave emma Master Howard's little girl 27 Jun 10, 8:27 PM 375-295-503 UK, 2 yrs 793-133-975 wrote: Masters How extreme do masters treat their slave(s)? How do slaves deal with the fear. if a slave has no rights, how do they protect themselves? This is very subjective and will vary between all Masters and slaves. Some slaves may be subjected to any manner of treatments, such as humiliation, mind control, sleep depravation and pain etc. Pain is an interesting concept, some slaves can tolerate and enjoy a high degree of pain, that others would not find acceptable; so to define what could be described as 'extreme' is not an easy task. The second part of the question is easier to answer and it comes down to communication once again. The M/s dynamic requires trust and commitment between both parties and this takes time to establish. A slave should always have the right to be safe and have the means to stop a particular action at any time. To this end, safewords are a good way to ensure the slave does not suffer what to them would be unendurable. On a personal note, if and when I become branded by my Master, I will cease to have any rights and will belong to Him; there will be no get out clause. Therefore, it is imperative that I have total trust and that I know He will always take care of my welfare before I make the permanent commitment to Him. 28 Jun 10, 2:38 AM mutable 2 yrs I'm a bit confused by your questions. I expect that huge amounts of communication have been entered into before any agreements made. This is for the benefit of the master, as much of the slave. Certainly, there may be occasions where the slave feels some fear - but not continually unendurably so. My opinion is that if someone ever feels unhappily otherwise then they need to communicate this and, if communication doesn't work, then they need to think hard on if this is the right match for them. 'We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are' Anais Nin 6 Jul 10, 5:35 PM curious_bina US(TN), 2 yrs If a slave is fearful of their Master that's a sign of unstability - and abuse. There is good fear, and bad fear. (In this slave's opinion.) Good fear to her would be knowing the rules a Master has set, and following them or knowing the slave will be punished. Bad fear would be fearful of just being in the presence of the Master. Fearful of his reactions, fearful of the Master knowing certain things, or finding out. Even if a slave is no limits, they should retain the right to leave if things get bad in their own opinion. If a slave can recognize they're in a bad situation they should be able to leave it. -s Always the curious one ~ s 6 Jul 10, 5:50 PM DarkSado 4 yrs 793-133-975 wrote: Masters How extreme do masters treat their slave(s)? How do slaves deal with the fear. if a slave has no rights, how do they protect themselves? It varies quite a bit. But, as others have said, you better know what you are getting into before you commit to M/s. Take as much time as possible to really get to know your future Dom/Master. Ask lots of questions about His/Her designs for you. Watch how they act. Eyes/ears open all the time. Because "This isn't what I signed up for" doesn't work in M/s. So how extreme? Ask your prospective Master. Each one is different. DarkSado 6 Jul 10, 6:36 PM 741-498-880 4 yrs It really depends on the people involved. If the only thing a slave has a right to choose, its who she gives herself too.. and she should do it wisely. I personally enjoy fear, the bad kind of fear, but I also picked someone who while is willing to be extreme and go to gray areas with me, also has no intentions of maiming or killing me because he doesn't want to spend the rest of his life in jail. Pick a partner wisely, and the rest usually works out. 6 Jul 10, 10:21 PM 000-719-381 US(TX), 10 yrs Y! 793-133-975 wrote: Masters How extreme do masters treat their slave(s)? How do slaves deal with the fear. if a slave has no rights, how do they protect themselves? "how do they protect themselves?" As others have already written, by surrendering to an Owner/Master/Mistress known well enough before such surrender as to be the object of total unconditional TRUST respectfully 000-719-381 7 Jul 10, 11:49 AM Calimero UK, 24 mths On reading much of this I don't really seem to have many of the restrictions placed on me by my Master that other slaves do. That said, I would never refuse him anything, if he decided I was to be publically humilated for something then I would take it. I don't know how others see this but for me it is about trust and by that I mean total trust. I have given myself to him freely, completely and to a level that my vanilla friends would not understand. I will do anything he asks as his pleasure is my pleasure and he does love to see me play. My fear comes when I misbehave and he cuts me off for X amount of hours, or threatens days of non contact. That for me is more painful than any spanking ( which I would enjoy) and restraints ( again I would enjoy it) or any physical pain. ( he does not however wish to give me physical pain) I have crossed the line a few times and recieved punishments so emotionally painful to me I felt like the world was crumbling around me. But after it is done I just bathed in his love and affection and know that it is done to teach me loyalty. His way may not be how some see a Masters role, yet he commands my total respect and Loyalty to a level that many people are shocked by. I give myself to him freely and without restraint. He has my total respect and loyalty. 8 Jul 10, 6:03 PM Masterhere2 UK, 2 yrs As an experienced Master, I think all slaves should always have a safe word. I certainly do not want to concern myself that my slave would not able to obey or take her punishment. I would want to completely relax when whipping her or using her in any fashion whatsoever. If she was unable to take her punishment or use in any particular way, then I know she can use her safe word. Having been owned in the past myself, (I can switch) there are times when I can take a cane as hard as she wants to use it with no boundary but other times she was able to reach my limit quite easily and so I had to use my safe word. However, the slit second I used my safe word, I felt as though I had let her down completely. I felt totally gutted. Therefore, although a master may feel he does not own his slave totally if she is given a safe word it is much safer for all concerned and if she does use, she will feel as though she has let him down big time. masterhere2 Next page