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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Love from a Master?" 1 2 Love from a Master? (20) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board (moved from O&P). Wed 12 May 10, 1:13 AM Virgil US, 21 mths Alright, so i am a somewhat young slave (Not underage mind you) and for some time now i've had the thought that being loved by your Master romantically isn't normal for some reason or another. i have not been very involved in any communities about the topic, and so i know little about the prospect of love or much about the relationships at all. So i would like to ask the question, is it strange for me to want to me loved by Master in a somewhat romantic way while still His property? Or is it a perfectly normal thing to desire..? Hope someone can this not-so-experienced slave a bit..! 12 May 10, 2:11 AM slave_of_The_Tesh US(FL), 2 yrs It depends on the kind of relationship you have. Many of us here have romantic relationships with our owners, because we were romantic partners before we got into the D/s or M/s dynamic. Some have strictly platonic relationships, and some of those platonic relationships have a slave with a desire for a romantic relationship they can never have. Master and I fall into the former category - we were engaged to be married before we started playing with M/s, though we had played with kinky sex before getting engaged. We let it progress on its own, and it took on a life of its own pretty quickly. We both consider our romantic relationship the more important of the two. It isn't strange at all to want that, but you really should consider the kind of relationship your master wants with you, too. If he isn't interested in a romantic relationship, you may be setting yourself up for heartbreak. His Beloved Owned and loved by The_Tesh This post has probably been edited for spelling/grammar because I'm weird like that. 12 May 10, 2:48 AM 898-443-818 US, 4 yrs i met my Master as Master and slave... we have been Master and slave from day one. i think it is fair to say that we both were looking for a loving relationship-however that didn't start day one quite as the D/s did. In other words, we have never had a loving relationship without the D/s portion. He is just about the most loving man i think is possible to walk the earth. This doesn't mean He isn't strict, He is, and this doesn't mean He doesn't Dominate me, He does, He is Master over my whole life and i have to ask permission for just about everything. But for us, and i'm not sure if it is because we met under the pretense that i wanted to be a slave and He wanted to be a Master, it has never gotten in the way of D/s. In any instant the loving side can flip to the side of the man i know can do whatever He wishes to me and with me. So to answer your question, i do not believe it is weird at all (i believe it is quite the norm actually), and i also know for a fact it is not impossible to achieve. Just as there are people like us, there are also people who do not wish for the romantic portion, and also Master's who do not wish for the loving portion. this of course more than OK-there's no right or wrong, just a matter of finding someone who wants what you want as well. edited to add: i would not say the romantic portion of our relationship is more important. i would say the D/s is, because it is the foundation that the love is built upon. Without it, the love would have no "boundaries" and it would fall apart. HTH 898-443-818 Edited 12 May 10, 2:53 AM by 898-443-818 12 May 10, 3:53 AM slavemichelle AU, 6 yrs No, its not strange Yes its perfectly normal to desire owned property of Sir Trisk Being your slave what should I do but tend Upon the hours, and times of your desire? Sonnet 57 - William Shakespeare 12 May 10, 6:22 AM masterfiremaam US(WV), 5 yrs Just like in other relationships, you are allowed to want what you want. If it's love you're looking for, go for it! It doesn't matter if some of us don't have romantic love in our relationships... how we define things applies only to us. Master Fire **The power of who we are can be intoxicating.** **The power of who we could be is humbling.** **Yet, we are assured we are exactly as we should be.** 12 May 10, 12:55 PM 258-321-589 US, 4 yrs i don't believe it is unnatural for any living soul to want to be loved in one manner or another; to be nutured and cherished for what they have to offer. Romantics are a different perspective for each person. i am "hopeless" in that area despite being hurt in the past. It makes a relationship stronger. respectfully MD's kahlan my body, my mind, my soul given to be nourished and to feed Master David of AZ's hunger and desire 24 May 10, 5:00 PM 220-430-196 US(WI), 21 mths i met Master a potential slave and knew from the start He had no intentions of "romance." Master was upfront with the fact that He is married and has no intention of leaving His wife, but there were needs she is not able to meet...it's not her personality to be submissive...even though they love each other. i understood that and although i am married (unhappily) my need for submission was also not being met. In a short time, feelings blossomed and although W/we cannot be together 24/7, this wonderful, loving Master and i share a special love that transcends my need to be with Him all the time. This is an unexpected benefit, but all things are possible with time. i agree with former statements though that if a Master doesn't have any intentions of a romantice relationship, you may be setting yourself up for major heartache. If Master didn't love me, i would still love and serve Him, but that's because the romantic loving part of O/our relationship evolved naturally without either of us expecting it. First and formost, He will always be my Master and i will be His slave. 24 May 10, 7:04 PM pet_ka_MJ CA, 2 yrs Wendell Berry in "Word and Flesh" wrote: "Love is never abstract. It does not adhere to the universe of the planet or the nation or the institution or profession, but to the singular sparrows of the street, the lilies of the field, the least of my brethren. Love is not, by its own desire heroic. It is heroic only when compelled to be. It exists by its willingness to be anonymous, humble and unrewarded." So, here is the question of the day... as slaves and/or submissives some of us (not all) seek love in our relationships. We seek loving kind Masters or Dominant partners who will return our feelings of love. For you, do you feel the need to compell the heroic gestures of love from your Master or Dominant? Or can you be satisfied with the mere existence of love that is humble and unrewarded? In my own instance, I faced this test this week. Master and I are very demonstrative in our love and neither of us fear or hesitate in telling the other that we love them. This week, for three days Master did not say he loved me. The first day I noted that he did not say the words, and figured he forgot. The second day, he did not say the words and I began to question (silently to myself). The third day he did not say the words, I felt anxious and nervous. This morning he told me how much he loved me. Upon hearing his words I visibly and noticably relaxed. I felt calm and content again. Then I began to question my response. I had become so focused on hearing his words of love, the heroic gesture, that I failed to see the humble and unrewarded gestures of love he engaged in everyday. I learned a very valuable lesson this week. With courage you will dare to take risks, have the strength to be compassionate, and the wisdom to be humble. Courage is the foundation of integrity. - Keshavan Nair 1 Jun 10, 10:01 PM mutable 2 yrs There are many different types of relationships and being loved by ones Master, or not, is a facet - neither right or wrong, in my opinion. I know that he loves me. I know that I love him. This was not our inital intent or desire, but has happened in any case. The 'love' is wonderful, but causes us a 'catch 22' situation. His love has deepend my trust and respect, yet my love has softened his dominance somewhat. So, I wish to give and please him more, yet he is overly concerned with my feelings and responses. Therefore, for us, being 'in love' is not so easy. I would not change it though and I think that he would not either. It just means that the 'alternative' steps we take are greatly considered and explored fully, before deciding upon. Overall, it is almost an egalitarian process, though not quite . Caveat : Non offensive and always learning. 'We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are' Anais Nin 2 Jun 10, 4:37 AM 825-768-571 US, 4 yrs mutable wrote: There are many different types of relationships and being loved by ones Master, or not, is a facet - neither right or wrong, in my opinion. I know that he loves me. I know that I love him. This was not our inital intent or desire, but has happened in any case. The 'love' is wonderful, but causes us a 'catch 22' situation. His love has deepend my trust and respect, yet my love has softened his dominance somewhat. So, I wish to give and please him more, yet he is overly concerned with my feelings and responses. Therefore, for us, being 'in love' is not so easy. I would not change it though and I think that he would not either. It just means that the 'alternative' steps we take are greatly considered and explored fully, before deciding upon. Overall, it is almost an egalitarian process, though not quite . two years ago i found my way to Master , spurred on by fate and sheer luck , W/we started this journey without any talk , or hope of love . over the months , love came to U/us .. incredible and intense ,real and welcome. certainly not all slaves love their Masters,and for years i was a misguided "purist " ,preaching that "love "had no place in this ,this Life . "love "would ,if allowed to flourish ..dilute the feel, blur the lines . but i see now it is possible to love a Master from a place that sits comfortably with my place ,and does not disturb O/our roles. rather this love enhances O/our roles...... noted , , a nod to the old adage ",to each his own ",but for this slave ... ,the M who owns me , owns all of me ,including my heart .. everything is a process ,and yes at times W/we wrestle with how O/our love for each other impacts the punishments ,but in every relationship, here and in the v world needs to mold itself to fit what needs to be .i trust Master , look to Him , to find a way for U/us that fits . the tighter the ropes , the softer the kiss ... 3 Jun 10, 10:06 PM 000-788-769 US(IN), 9 yrs Y! Although just enslaved last month, have been in love with Master for five years, but this slave was not the most desirable free man, but Master Hans is bringing out the best of this property, since Master enslaved this servile. Am so much happier than ever before. Wanted to be enslaved for 15 years, but the right Man never found slave until now. It is as if it was meant to be. Have finally grasped the concept that nothing really matters to slave except committing, respecting, obeying, serving, submitting. Really didn't get the idea that if a slave does not have its own opinion, then it can reach happinest by being obedient. Now, Master is able to love this slave, because Master molding slave into exactly what Master wants His slave to be, and this slave could not love Master more for that. Master does solicit slave's opinion on some matters, but for the most part, this slave is free from the bondage of needing to make sense of everything. Never understood how a slave could feel free, but am freed from its past life, and am in love with a great Man who loves His slave. Am very happy! Thank You my adored and beloved Master! obedient, submissive foot slave that loves hypnosis 788-769 Next page