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TSR : Web boards : Internal Enslavement : "Starting over"
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Starting over (18)

This post is on the Internal Enslavement web board.

Wed 24 Mar 10, 4:04 PM
sweetgirl
US(TX), 4 yrs
i have been on this board for a long time i have desired this life too long to count. However my Owner/husband was reluctant at first so it was more a sexual game. He has now come to relize it is more than just fun He can get everything He desires. So we have moved into 24/7 TPE so now that He and i have played with this too long it has been hard for me not to assume He is going back to vanilla life and i have seen become stronger and more of a true Master He is not going back. My point is i have not fully accepted that this is real reguadless of the punishments i have recieved. How can He get me to get it. i am also very frustrated with myself for not sticking with His rules and testing Him i want to be a good slave. He is on the road so He asked if i could get any suggestions????
24 Mar 10, 4:46 PM
562-470-768
2 yrs
Dragons_princess wrote:
Starting over

i have been on this board for a long time i have desired this life too long to count. However my Owner/husband was reluctant at first so it was more a sexual game. He has now come to relize it is more than just fun He can get everything He desires. So we have moved into 24/7 TPE so now that He and i have played with this too long it has been hard for me not to assume He is going back to vanilla life and i have seen become stronger and more of a true Master He is not going back. My point is i have not fully accepted that this is real reguadless of the punishments i have recieved. How can He get me to get it. i am also very frustrated with myself for not sticking with His rules and testing Him i want to be a good slave. He is on the road so He asked if i could get any suggestions????

*grins* congratulations to your Owner and yourself for taking this step.

this girl would firstly say that punishment is not always the answer, but a LOT of talking and communicating. the foundations has to be put out and firmly laid.

you both may want to start by asking some questions, and discussing this.

what do you think BDSM lifestyle is all about? what do you want from this lifestyle? how do you intend to serve your Owner? (OTHER than sex) (girl had to write a bleeding 10pager on this way back when!) what punishments has NO pleasure effects? (as example: this girl likes spankings, but she hates being cold. Master would stick her in the shower for a few seconds... she sure as hell will do what it takes to avoid that from happening!) why do you break the rules? (this is to figure out if you are 'lacking' something such as attention etc. example: if you break them to get a spanking, or simply to be able to engage in an argument etc it s for negative attention) what manner of control do you fear most in giving up? what would you consider the perfect day as a slave? (write a story perhaps on this to describe a day?)

there are so many many many questions that one may want to consider FIRST. this girl has noticed that many makes a huge leap, and not establishing the groundwork first.

she would suggest that things starts slowly, while you continue the discussions along the way. establish rules such as.

1. Journal. Write every single day in your journal about yoru hopes, fantasies, dreams, concerns etc. be open and honest about your feelings- this is to be available to your Owner and there will be no negative consequences for said writings. Discussion on this will follow but ONLY for an set period of time, and the minute it turns into an argument, it will be halted untill both parties are cooled down to resolve the matter properly.

2. Basic routines: clean, cook, and kneel to greet and be available without complaints whenever it is commanded by your Owner. You will soon find your submissive triggers in this.

3. Establish a clear subservient 'pose'. Just one. This pose you will assume when watching TV, or when not busy with other tasks.

4. Ask to enter or leave a room for toilet breaks. (this eventually can fall or more reasons for asking can slowly be added to it)

5. Conduct: Do not turn your back on your Owner, EVER. (this is much harder than one may think, *chuckles* and Master STILL mess with this girl by making her spin around in circles) Address Owner as [insert preference here] Serve Owner first before you take your place to eat (this girl eats on the floor... that is up to Owner to decide)

do this for perhaps a month *smiles* (these are mere examples though) and ask your Owner for CLEAR consequences.

this girl is not one to shy away from a beating, so for her physical punishment, however painful, is not a method to correct her attitude.

however: she has a silver foodbowl that she eats from every night. if she had a minor infraction, she will get the red, ugly foodbowl. this upsets her tremendously, as it is a visual representation of Master's dissatisfaction.

a favourite 'security' item may be removed for more prominent infractions - for this girl it is her yoga mat. it may be a piece of jewelry for you, or such.

standing in the corner - facing the wall and not allowed to speak or look around. The longer you 'mess up' on this, the longer your punishment will last.

silence for 24hrs.

writing a essay on the reasons for your disobedience, and suggesting four punishments that you think is appropriate that you WON'T LIKE. Your owner may choose to actually implement one, or not..

these shoudl be things that you WANT to avoid, adn the ONLY way to avoid them is by being a 'good' slave.

back-chatting, brattyness and general 'princess/barbie syndrome' are residual habits from a life you had outside of this lifestyle. you cannot always 'cast it off' butyou sure as hell can adjust them to fit your role as slave better.

these are by no means hard and fast rules, they are truly just thoughts and ideas, based on this girl's experiences.

the Main thing to take from this is

Communication is KEY Punishment should not be pleasurable!

she wish the best!

We are all vanilla to some degree - for society will keep a foothold in our lives. We are all Dom/mes or slave/sub on some level, as there is ALWAYS someone weaker or stronger than you...

24 Mar 10, 4:46 PM
333-528-841
CA, 3 yrs

Dragons_princess wrote:
Starting over

How can He get me to get it. i am also very frustrated with myself for not sticking with His rules and testing Him i want to be a good slave.

I am sure you have heard "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink." That is what your statement above reminds me of.

Your husband can't "get you to get" anything if you are not ready and willing to let him be your Owner.

You say you have "desired this life too long to count" but now that it is happening and you are able to live as you have desired, you seem to be unsure if that is what you really want.

IMO, maybe you should have a good think, define what you are looking for and communicate this to your husband. Really talk to one another and between the two of you, decide where you both want this to go and how to achieve it.

You must be breaking rules for a reason, and punishments will not stop you from doing so if you don't know in your mind which life you genuinely want. It's never easy having restrictions and having to follow rules when you start out. It is a continuing journey with constant challenges.

All the best to you both.

333-528-841
Life shouldn't be measured by the breaths you take; but by the moments that take your breath away - unknown

24 Mar 10, 5:19 PM
sweetgirl
US(TX), 4 yrs
ok i understand the first answer and thats how he has become stronger the punishments used to be pain but now He has taken control and has been 4 nights since i have slept in his bed it has been the closet or the floor and today i am striving to get all punishments done so i can sleep in His bed. I have had to write 2 essays about different things to let him know where i stand i have a schedule and am not allowed to sit on His toliet, i eat out of a dog bowl and drink when told, He has punished me with eating lima beans and peas which i HATE for 3 meals. i am also not a fan of cold baths, i have been standing in the corner and in front of the mirror at certian times which i am not fond of so we went from pain to things i HATE. He has been very strict but at this point i know it is what i need because writer number 2 i DO want this life always have. Oh and He does have a pose the collar i wear and he leads me with a leash, i sit at his feet and draw His bath things like that. The most humbling thing is that when he is home He watches theese punishments and he likes me kneeling with my ass in the air. i think he keeps strong and He said He isnt quiting anymore i will get there like you said thank you!
24 Mar 10, 5:58 PM
sweetgirl
US(TX), 4 yrs
just got my toungue and nipples clamped for cussing guess i will figure this out soon!
24 Mar 10, 7:09 PM
562-470-768
2 yrs
Dragons_princess wrote:
just got my toungue and nipples clamped for cussing guess i will figure this out soon!

this girl would say then...

perhaps you just dn't want to learn, as that would take away his attention from you.

if he HAS tried all he can, and you STILL refuse (or are unable) to make the effort to learn and adhere to his wishes, to SERVE him with all your heart and might... then perhaps you are just not cut out to be his slave.

it sounds harsh, but *smiles* this girl has a FILTHY temper. she swears like a trooper and is mouthy beyond believe. she's got NO problem getting into a fist fight if you push at her, and she certainly won't back down if you argue with her over something she knows she's right... yet... Master had but to ASK her (fair enough, wasn't so much asking as telling her), and she WANTED to stop..and she did. it took a wee bit of encouragement... but it did NOT take a series of punishments. in fact, barring the 'naughty girl spanking scenes' this girl has never really had to be punished. just the THOUGHT of the punishments is more than enough ... she hates dissapointing Master.

but this is her.... and you are not her. girl hopes you figure out what your are missing.

We are all vanilla to some degree - for society will keep a foothold in our lives. We are all Dom/mes or slave/sub on some level, as there is ALWAYS someone weaker or stronger than you...

Edited 24 Mar 10, 7:20 PM by 562-470-768

24 Mar 10, 9:38 PM
masterfiremaam
US(WV), 5 yrs

Our feeling is this: stop assuming the correction has to come from him. The correction must come from you. Begin from the inside out rather than the outside in.

Master Fire

**The power of who we are can be intoxicating.** **The power of who we could be is humbling.** **Yet, we are assured we are exactly as we should be.**

24 Mar 10, 9:44 PM
562-470-768
2 yrs
masterfiremaam wrote:
Our feeling is this: stop assuming the correction has to come from him. The correction must come from you. Begin from the inside out rather than the outside in.

Master Fire

/me greets you and then go on to say that she appreciate that you expressed her thoughts exactly so much better than she did!

We are all vanilla to some degree - for society will keep a foothold in our lives. We are all Dom/mes or slave/sub on some level, as there is ALWAYS someone weaker or stronger than you...

25 Mar 10, 12:50 AM
sweetgirl
US(TX), 4 yrs
i feel some people are not being completely honest and to quick to critize me, that i am not ready, it has been a long journey here and if you tell me the first you ever submitted to anyone you just automatically did it,then i wont believe you. It takes trust training and time. my Master was wanting tips for my strong will. But as He states that He sees major improvement in my attitude and behavior so He says he is disappointed in the responses the first one was at least constructive. i am and always will be His pet and i WILL be better. He has sought other advice and i do believe it will work. Thank you for your reply!
25 Mar 10, 3:07 AM
333-528-841
CA, 3 yrs

It is a shame you did not find the replies constructive. You came on here asking advice. Thoughts and advice were given, "based on what you wrote."

People are not trying to criticize you. I am sorry you feel that. Most replies usually come from some form of personal experience. You also have to take the good with the bad on a public forum and not take things too personally. The majority of people on this site are here to support when needed. If you read other past posts, maybe you will see that.

You asked how your Owner could make you get it and said you are always breaking rules. Maybe you could clarify more if you feel no one is being helpful but please do not accuse people replying of not being honest.

Your subsequent post mentions the punishments you are getting. Don't take this the wrong way..... sometimes the written word is read differently than intended. By your post though, it sounds like all that is happening is punishments. Please realize I said "sounds". From what I read.

You are doing many things for your Owner but is it possible with all that's happening that Your needs are not being met? Not your wants but your needs? These type of dynamics have to fill a need for both of you in order for it to work and both of you to be content and happy.

Of course it takes time and trust. Most dynamics of this type start slowly. You can't have dozens of restrictions and rules thrown at you all at once and then be expected to follow everything to the letter. If it were me, I wouldn't be able to remember them all. ;) Is it possible that too much is happening at once? Just things to think about and discuss with your Owner, if you feel it is too much at one time.

I hope you find that a bit more constructive or at least gives you a couple more thoughts to throw around. If not, maybe others can help you more. My Master has instructed me to not reply again to this or other posts you may make as he was disappointed with the criticism given in response to replies and saw it as disrespect to the members.

All the best to you.

333-528-841
Life shouldn't be measured by the breaths you take; but by the moments that take your breath away - unknown

Edited 25 Mar 10, 3:24 AM by 333-528-841

25 Mar 10, 8:14 AM
562-470-768
2 yrs
"My point is i have not fully accepted that this is real reguadless of the punishments i have recieved. "

this girl greets you, and then brings you to see the above.

what that says to this girl, is that you have NOT submitted to your husband, nor have you submitted to your new-found 'lifestyle'.

if you see that as being judged, then you have presented yourself as guilty right from the start. it was not this girl's intention to make you feel upset, but to live this for real, you have to get real with yourself.

this girl also echo's what 333-528-841 said so very very well. and this too, was her last post to you. Master suggested that if your Owner found a 'new' way to deal with you, then perhaps he should let the other Owner's know, as they can all learn from this.

We are all vanilla to some degree - for society will keep a foothold in our lives. We are all Dom/mes or slave/sub on some level, as there is ALWAYS someone weaker or stronger than you...

Edited 25 Mar 10, 8:16 AM by 562-470-768

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