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	TSR : Web boards : O&P : "Slave food" 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Slave food (66) This post is on the O&P web board. Tue 23 Mar 10, 1:39 PM richjod US(IA), 4 yrs Y! My Mistress wants to put me on a basic 'slave food' such as gruel which is oatmeal with no seasoning or flavoring of any kind. But at the same time as she wants this to be my staple food 7 days a week we are wondering if with just a multi-vitamin added is this adequate to keep me healthy? The requirements that we are looking to meet are that the exact same thing is able to be eaten each day and that it is either bland or distasteful to some extent and that it is extremely inexpensive to make (Mistress would like to spend less than $10 a week and make an amount once a week for the entire week that would be put in the refridgerator and always eaten cold. Any ideas and thoughts? Respectfully, Rachael Ms. Robin's sissy maid www.MsRobin.com 23 Mar 10, 1:55 PM goreankajira US(OH), 4 yrs Y! i honestly don't see how this could be practical if she wants you to be healthy. You would need many other supplements besides just multi vitamins. i'm not a food expert but you would need protein added in some way. i understand Her point and it makes perfect sense, it just lacks practicality when it comes to your health which should be put before anything else, as you cant efficiently serve Her if your sickly. 23 Mar 10, 3:36 PM x_Ancilla_x 3 yrs I agree with jjsslave. Oatmeal will only provide carbohydrate and presumably some vitamins and minerals. A healthy diet also needs fruit and vegetables as well as a source of protein - meat, fish or a vegetarian substitute. Also you don't say what will accompany the oatmeal. Will it be eaten with milk? I assume not since your Mistress is looking to keep it basic. In that case you'd need to look for a source of calcium. I suspect you'd have to take a lot of supplements to get most of your dietary requirements from them. Probably only a dietician could advise you on the correct combination. The advice always seems to be that it's better to get most, if not all, of your nutritional requirements from a balanced diet. Supplements are meant to be just that - a supplement, not a substitute for a heathy diet. By the way, it's not necessary to post three times to get your post noticed! Edited 23 Mar 10, 3:43 PM by x_Ancilla_x 23 Mar 10, 3:56 PM 562-470-768 2 yrs ditto on what was said already. this girl also did a bit of research on history and the type of foods slaves and prisoners ate/eats. she found that it was (although often at the mercy of the public where prisoners were concerned) not much but always with the goal to provide enough nutrition to keep them working hard and prevent them from becoming ill. "Enslavers fed their captives as cheaply as possible, often with throwaway foods from the plantation, forcing slaves to make do with the ingredients at hand. In slave households, vegetables were the tops of turnips and beets and dandelions. Soon, slaves were cooking with new types of greens: collards, kale, cress, mustard, and pokeweed. They also developed recipes which used lard; cornmeal; and offal, discarded cuts of meat such as pigs' feet, oxtail, ham hocks, chitterlings (pig small intestines), pig ears, hog jowls, tripe and skin. Cooks added onions, garlic, thyme, and bay leaf to enhance the flavors. Some slaves supplemented their meager diets by maintaining small plots made available to them to grow their own vegetables, and many engaged in subsistence fishing and hunting, which yielded wild game for the table. Foods such as raccoon, squirrel, opossum, turtle, and rabbit were, until the 1950s, very common fare among the still predominantly rural and southern African American population." We are all vanilla to some degree - for society will keep a foothold in our lives. We are all Dom/mes or slave/sub on some level, as there is ALWAYS someone weaker or stronger than you... 23 Mar 10, 4:24 PM 333-528-841 CA, 3 yrs 562-470-768 wrote: ditto on what was said already. this girl also did a bit of research on history and the type of foods slaves and prisoners ate/eats. she found that it was (although often at the mercy of the public where prisoners were concerned) not much but always with the goal to provide enough nutrition to keep them working hard and prevent them from becoming ill. "Enslavers fed their captives as cheaply as possible, often with throwaway foods from the plantation, forcing slaves to make do with the ingredients at hand. In slave households, vegetables were the tops of turnips and beets and dandelions. Soon, slaves were cooking with new types of greens: collards, kale, cress, mustard, and pokeweed. They also developed recipes which used lard; cornmeal; and offal, discarded cuts of meat such as pigs' feet, oxtail, ham hocks, chitterlings (pig small intestines), pig ears, hog jowls, tripe and skin. Cooks added onions, garlic, thyme, and bay leaf to enhance the flavors. Some slaves supplemented their meager diets by maintaining small plots made available to them to grow their own vegetables, and many engaged in subsistence fishing and hunting, which yielded wild game for the table. Foods such as raccoon, squirrel, opossum, turtle, and rabbit were, until the 1950s, very common fare among the still predominantly rural and southern African American population." One thing to remember is that historically, slavery was non consenual. It was a different time and people didn't know then what they do now about nutrition, health and wellbeing. Even with slaves trying new vegetables and things historically, there was a much higher mortality rate from illness and disease. People also died much younger. Nowdays you see nutrition labels on food, there are commercials touting good eating, health and looking after all areas of oneself. There are reasons for that! While it may seem like something to spice up your dynamic or make it more "authentic", you should be one of your Mistress's most valuable possessions. Why would she not want to look after you as such? Your daily "needs" physically and phycologically, IMO, goes beyond gruel, bland or not. Even animals are fed better than that. Plus, how many months or years could you do this and be mentally alert and content? So, I agree with the other posters, doesn't sound practical or healthy, Just my opinion though. 333-528-841 Life shouldn't be measured by the breaths you take; but by the moments that take your breath away - unknown 23 Mar 10, 4:42 PM richjod US(IA), 4 yrs Y! A couple of things that I should have had in my original post that were not there. This slave gruel that we are looking to create is to be the only thing that I eat when at home. As with most of us who live this as a lifestyle it is only when I am at home that I am in full slave mode. I have to work that regular vanilla job during which I have a meal from a cafeteria in a grocery store where I am able to eat a wide variety of foods within the budget that my Mistress has set for me. So there is mainly vegetables consumed during this meal along with 2 or 3 glasses of milk (the store has milk like soda from a help yourself fountain). Also, Mistress had the thought that white cooked navy beans would add protein and could be added to the gruel mixture of oatmeal and water and put in the food processor so that the consistency of the food would always be the same. We are just wondering if this is a workable thing and we appreciate everyone's thoughts on the subject and any suggestions on how to best incorporate this into our lifestyle. Mistress is also curious about everyone's thoughts on if the gruel should be the tasteless bland blend that we are looking at or if something should be added that gives an unpleasant taste to the gruel mixture and what that ingredient(s) should be. Please keep your thoughts and ideas coming as this is an addition to our lifestyle that we are really interested in. I apologize for posting on multiple boards as I just wanted to make sure I heard from everyone that I possibly could on this subject. Again, I want to thank everyone for their ideas and suggestions on this topic. Respectfully, Rachael Ms. Robin's sissy maid www.MsRobin.com 23 Mar 10, 4:45 PM slave_of_The_Tesh US(FL), 2 yrs "Slave food," indeed. If your mistress expects you to be able to perform on any level and maintain your health, you need a FAR better diet than oatmeal/gruel and a vitamin! That's not healthy in the least. Actual slaves were grossly malnourished and often sick because of such nutrient-deficient diets. You (and all humans, slave or otherwise) need: protein (meat, fish, beans) grains (oatmeal or gruel is fine, but it can't be the only thing you eat!) fiber (fruits and veggies) water Plus a multivitamin, because even with all that it can be hard to get all the vitamins and minerals you need. His Beloved Owned and loved by The_Tesh This post has probably been edited for spelling/grammar because I'm weird like that. Edited 23 Mar 10, 4:47 PM by slave_of_The_Tesh 23 Mar 10, 5:13 PM 562-470-768 2 yrs well, if one meal a day (and perhaps weekends) is all you are looking at on this front... this girl cannot say this or that. she herself eats one meal a day and only because Master insists! (she'd easily go without food for days on end..) so perhaps your Mistress would consider the vitamin mixers that is added to food.(it looks like salt or fine sugar, but has a vitb complex to it..HORRIBLE smelling and tasting) it tastes disgusting at best. girl would also imagine that if you going to be eating beans.. well.. fumes has a way of escaping no? so long as you get at least ONE proper, healthy meal each and every single day, you cannot do worst than some who lives on junk food. it also would then depend on the response your Mistress would want (reaction wise). if she wants you to not enjoy the gruel, and make you suffer humiliation - aye, add something horrible smelling or tasting (or even looking. a healthy dose of intestines are nutritious but EGH! - and cheap enough) Mix the gruel with a handful of dogfood every now and again (and aye, it is probably more nutritious) and you have a perfectly well 'balanced' disgusting diet. (my brother used to eat a dogfood bowl with pellets every night - to my mother's dismay! upon examination, the docs could not find any reason for him to stop... though he did enjoy it and had regular family meals including breakfast and lunch.) if she just wants you to 'suffer meal' then bland would surfice. *shudders again* good luck with that. We are all vanilla to some degree - for society will keep a foothold in our lives. We are all Dom/mes or slave/sub on some level, as there is ALWAYS someone weaker or stronger than you... 23 Mar 10, 5:36 PM x_Ancilla_x 3 yrs richjod wrote: A couple of things that I should have had in my original post that were not there. This slave gruel that we are looking to create is to be the only thing that I eat when at home. As with most of us who live this as a lifestyle it is only when I am at home that I am in full slave mode. I have to work that regular vanilla job during which I have a meal from a cafeteria in a grocery store where I am able to eat a wide variety of foods within the budget that my Mistress has set for me. So there is mainly vegetables consumed during this meal along with 2 or 3 glasses of milk (the store has milk like soda from a help yourself fountain). Also, Mistress had the thought that white cooked navy beans would add protein and could be added to the gruel mixture of oatmeal and water and put in the food processor so that the consistency of the food would always be the same. We are just wondering if this is a workable thing and we appreciate everyone's thoughts on the subject and any suggestions on how to best incorporate this into our lifestyle. Mistress is also curious about everyone's thoughts on if the gruel should be the tasteless bland blend that we are looking at or if something should be added that gives an unpleasant taste to the gruel mixture and what that ingredient(s) should be. Please keep your thoughts and ideas coming as this is an addition to our lifestyle that we are really interested in. I apologize for posting on multiple boards as I just wanted to make sure I heard from everyone that I possibly could on this subject. Again, I want to thank everyone for their ideas and suggestions on this topic. Hi again I'm by no means a dietician, so these are only my personal observations, but I think that to ensure you get all the nutrients you need with a diet that's restricted for part of the day, you might need to research (on the internet) what levels of all vitamins/minerals/carbohydrates/proteins/fibre, etc. are necessary daily for a human. Then ensure that whatever combination of food and drink you're having provides most of these - and supplement where it doesn't. Time consuming I know, but to have something very restricted whenever you're at home, and then rely on cafeteria cooked food, randomly selected, midday, might not cover it. You don't know the quality of the basic ingredients with cafeteria cooked food or whether much of the nutritional value has been destroyed by over-cooking/keeping it hot for hours on end so that people can be served fast. I think it probably will make the gruel a lot more nutritious if your Mistress adds beans to it, but without researching, you don't know the nutrients you're getting and the nutrients that are lacking - and the latter might be important to health. Edited to add: You also need to ensure that your new diet provides sufficient calories for your sex and build. For example a heavily built muscular man is obviously going to need more than a woman with a slight build. Otherwise you might find yourself lacking in energy. Edited 23 Mar 10, 5:59 PM by x_Ancilla_x 23 Mar 10, 7:57 PM 978-291-889 2 yrs I agree with the previous posts about lacking in nutrients... Would your Mistress allow you to grow vegetables, if you have space, to add to the gruel? She would benefit from a healthier slave, have homegrown fresh veg, save money.... loadsa benefits.... It only needs a small patio or window box to grow some products and would add vital goodness to your diet at little cost... I have spent £10 on seeds recently and will have carrots, swedes, potatoes, red onions, leeks, tomatoes, cucumber, chilli, spring onion, lettuce, swedes, butternut squash, peas, runner beans and garlic. I am staggering sowing the seeds so i have a more continuous crop. If some of the seeds fail (my crop last year was my first and 'interesting' to say the least! The carrots had 5 legs each! and i only got 11 potatoes ) at least you will have learnt something for the following year and will definitely get *some* produce.... I know it might taste better than your Mistress is hoping for if you add veggies... you could always grow the ones you dislike?! 978-291-889 The cuffs and ropes might have to be removed in the morning... but the bonds of love stretch as far as 2 people can roam. Edited 23 Mar 10, 9:44 PM by 978-291-889 23 Mar 10, 8:18 PM Master_IanNZ NZ, 2 yrs On a similar vein as others, the priority for me is that my slave is healthy - so a balanced diet is critical. Without that, slave can not be at his optimum. Perhaps the option of one such meal a day is a good one, that way the OP is getting nutrition needed from other meals/food sources. Alternatively, introducing blandness could be part of punishment, for defined (shorter) periods - but it seems OP's Mistress may be looking for something more of an ongoing nature. Next page