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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "IS THIS HEALTHY OR UNHEALTHY,THOUGHTS NEEDED" 1 2 IS THIS HEALTHY OR UNHEALTHY,THOUGHTS NEEDED (13) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Mon 8 Feb 10, 7:43 PM Spike1977 CA, 2 yrs iv'e been Mistresses live in pup-slave for about three months now, and i need some advice on if what is going on with me is healthy,unhealthy and where to draw the line.Mistress has complete control over me physically,emotionally,and financially, infact for most of each day, i spend it in "puppy mode", so much so that its gotten to the point where often i don't respond to my birth name while in human mode anymore,(and while this shows how good of trainer my Mistress is)i can't help but if this is healthy or not for my own mental wellbeing,is it possible to reprogram the human mind into completely changing and forgetting who you used to be? this may be a stupid,even an unthinkable possibility to some, as i once did,but when i started to only respond to my Mistress/partner when she used my puppy name (spike) it got me wondering just how much the human mind could be reprogramed,anyone else ever have these concerns, or have even given it any thought?any input weould be greatly appreciated by this boi. bows to all 918 848 470 8 Feb 10, 7:56 PM jakesemma US(WA), 4 yrs Y! Do you care? I don't respond to my birth name anymore either. I just don't care what other people think is healthy or not. being a slave is my entire existence now and has been for the last 4+ years of being together with him. (before we even had labels for our dynamic together.! LOL) I guess you either need to 1. tell her your concerns and discuss them with her. 2. just trust what she wants from you and not worry about it.. 3. decide if this is the kind of relationship you really want, and then discuss it with her. 8 Feb 10, 8:22 PM 562-470-768 2 yrs jakesemma wrote: Do you care? I don't respond to my birth name anymore either. I just don't care what other people think is healthy or not. being a slave is my entire existence now and has been for the last 4+ years of being together with him. (before we even had labels for our dynamic together.! LOL) I guess you either need to 1. tell her your concerns and discuss them with her. 2. just trust what she wants from you and not worry about it.. 3. decide if this is the kind of relationship you really want, and then discuss it with her. /me nods so hard in agreement she nearly falls off her chair. if it worries you, let this girl echo the writing above :: address those concerns openly and deeply.it may be that your Owner may need to help you find a balance in all this too. it is only as healthy or unhealthy, one would think, as your ability to deal/cope with it. We are all vanilla to some degree - for society will keep a foothold in our lives. We are all Dom/mes or slave/sub on some level, as there is ALWAYS someone weaker or stronger than you... 8 Feb 10, 8:38 PM Spike1977 CA, 2 yrs ive been in the lifestyle for 15+ years and this is definatley what i want,and yes Mistress knows my concerns,i do care only for the reason that if (god forbid) something happens to Mistress or our relationship ends (not likely) how i will function back in a vanilla lifestyle when i cant even remember my own name now, lol,personally i love the job she"s done reprogramming me as her pup,and so does she which is perfect while we are together but i still worry how i'll respond if our M/s relationship ends.surely im not the only one who worries about this,and for those who worry only about life with your Master/Mistress and have not looked forward to what they would do if the relationship ends,are a little nieve i think,no offence intended.i take the example of someone who's been in prison for a long period of time,where yer told when to eat,sleep and have to ask permission to use the washroom and face daily confinement in a variety of ways etc(similar to how many slaves, live under their owners).Now,when an inmate is released after such a long period of confinement (or long periods of servitude in a slaves case) they often can't cope in the real world where they have the freedom to do what they want when they want, with no one to guide them or answer to, and end up going back to prison where they are comfortable,have a schedule and rules to follow,and have to get permission for everything,like going to the washroom, because that's what they are used to and their minds have adapted to,so after a slave is done serving their owner(for whatever reason),i think every slave needs to think about,and understand, how they will function without their owners leadership,as i think a lot of slaves don't look ahead,or realize how difficult the transition to vanilla life will be,especially after they've given everything(mind,body,soul,ability to think and make decisions on their own)to their owner, and in essence get "reprogrammed" for lack of a better word,but to assume that your owner is going to be the rest for the rest of your life to make every decision for you is unlikely and frankly makes a slave a little nieve (no disrespect intended)so i thought id post to see two things,first to see how many slaves even look ahead to to the end of their servitude and second to find ways that a Master/Mistress talk and more importantly prepare for the day when they have to think for themselves again after not having done so for a VERY long period of time, BOWS TO ALL- 918 848 470 Edited 8 Feb 10, 9:43 PM by Spike1977 8 Feb 10, 9:13 PM goreankajira US(OH), 4 yrs Y! i dont see it as an issue unless its an issue to you. i feel that the reprogramming can be a good thing. i dont even remember most of my life before becoming Masters slave and each day a bit more of those remnants of my past fade away. Its been a little over 2 years now and while i do deal with the bipolar issues now, i dont deal as much with the day to day crap in my head that i did in the beginning. by letting yourself become her puppy fully you can release your past and live only for today and become who your Mistress and hopefully you want. i dont see it as unhealthy at all, i see it as freeing your true self, which can be a wonderful thing. 8 Feb 10, 10:15 PM Spike1977 CA, 2 yrs jjsslave wrote: i dont see it as an issue unless its an issue to you. i feel that the reprogramming can be a good thing. i dont even remember most of my life before becoming Masters slave and each day a bit more of those remnants of my past fade away. Its been a little over 2 years now and while i do deal with the bipolar issues now, i dont deal as much with the day to day crap in my head that i did in the beginning. by letting yourself become her puppy fully you can release your past and live only for today and become who your Mistress and hopefully you want. i don't see it as unhealthy at all, i see it as freeing your true self, which case what a wonderful thing. [htd/qfree lifuote] Thanks for your thoughts,and yes i have become the pup my Mistress wants,and that i love being for Her,i also love the carefree life i now have,since She looks after everything(bills etc),and all the income i get i hand over to Her,which gives me the freedom to focus on my only goal in life,which is serving Her to the best of my ability and pleasing Her,also to the best of my ability,to insure Her happiness.i only worry that if our M/s relationship ends after a long period of time,how i will function in a vanilla world again(especially now that i no longer even respond to my given name, but only my pet name,lol)this is why i asked if this is a healthy lifestyle,and wondered how much "re-programming" is to much(keep in mind i am thinking of the relationship with my Owner when or if it ends, not while together and you don't give a crap if your Owner changes your psyche,lol)i to don't care, as long as we are together but can't help but worry how this will effect me if (god forbid)our relationship should end,thanks again for your thoughts as their always appreciated. with gratitude 918 848 470 Edited 8 Feb 10, 10:55 PM by Spike1977 8 Feb 10, 11:35 PM goreankajira US(OH), 4 yrs Y! Spike1977 wrote: jjsslave wrote: i dont see it as an issue unless its an issue to you. i feel that the reprogramming can be a good thing. i dont even remember most of my life before becoming Masters slave and each day a bit more of those remnants of my past fade away. Its been a little over 2 years now and while i do deal with the bipolar issues now, i dont deal as much with the day to day crap in my head that i did in the beginning. by letting yourself become her puppy fully you can release your past and live only for today and become who your Mistress and hopefully you want. i don't see it as unhealthy at all, i see it as freeing your true self, which case what a wonderful thing. [htd/qfree lifuote] Thanks for your thoughts,and yes i have become the pup my Mistress wants,and that i love being for Her,i also love the carefree life i now have,since She looks after everything(bills etc),and all the income i get i hand over to Her,which gives me the freedom to focus on my only goal in life,which is serving Her to the best of my ability and pleasing Her,also to the best of my ability,to insure Her happiness.i only worry that if our M/s relationship ends after a long period of time,how i will function in a vanilla world again(especially now that i no longer even respond to my given name, but only my pet name,lol)this is why i asked if this is a healthy lifestyle,and wondered how much "re-programming" is to much(keep in mind i am thinking of the relationship with my Owner when or if it ends, not while together and you don't give a crap if your Owner changes your psyche,lol)i to don't care, as long as we are together but can't help but worry how this will effect me if (god forbid)our relationship should end,thanks again for your thoughts as their always appreciated. with gratitude 918 848 470 Ahh, sorry i must have missed that part about if something happens. Well we all have to deal with the what ifs... ive been taught not to really deal with them because the what if's can destroy a person. However you do have a good point.. if something were to happen to your relationship them hopefully your Mistress has already thought of that and made plans for you. In my case, if something were to happen to Master ive been told where all of the important papers are and there are instructions in those papers about how he wants me to handle things. We are also a part of our local community so i would not be alone as i have some strong bonds with others in the community who i know will be there if i need them and help me get through the transition. 9 Feb 10, 12:56 AM slave_belle US, 8 yrs spike1977, i admit i don't know too much about 'puppy mode', but i am comfortable with my own 'reprogramming', all due to the desires of my Master and Owner. For Him, i am so much more than i used to be, as He takes my submission and makes me His own. Any 'reprogramming' He has done with me has only made me stronger and more capable of serving Him. i don't believe His desires for me are 'unhealthy', and i have never been tempted to 'draw the line', so to speak. your questions should be discussed with your Mistress, as She is possibly the only One able to guide you and calm your concerns on whether Her expectations of you as Her puppy are healthy, physically, mentally and emotionally. Please hear me on this ~ if you ever feel like you need to 'draw the line' on something, don't ignore your instinct ~ draw that line and figure it out. Better safe than sorry. i'm just sayin. .. . peace out, slavebelle 10 Feb 10, 12:23 AM Spike1977 CA, 2 yrs slave_belle wrote: spike1977, i admit i don't know too much about 'puppy mode', but i am comfortable with my own 'reprogramming', all due to the desires of my Master and Owner. For Him, i am so much more than i used to be, as He takes my submission and makes me His own. Any 'reprogramming' He has done with me has only made me stronger and more capable of serving Him. i don't believe His desires for me are 'unhealthy', and i have never been tempted to 'draw the line', so to speak. your questions should be discussed with your Mistress, as She is possibly the only One able to guide you and calm your concerns on whether Her expectations of you as Her puppy are healthy, physically, mentally and emotionally. Please hear me on this ~ if you ever feel like you need to 'draw the line' on something, don't ignore your instinct ~ draw that line and figure it out. Better safe than sorry. i'm just sayin. .. . dear slave belle: thank you very much for your response as it made me feel a little more comfortable with Mistresses "reprogramming" just to know that other slaves understand what i am talking about,and to know they are comfortable with it (as i am now as well ) 10 Feb 10, 1:22 AM bastets_daughter 2 yrs I can relate to this fear of 'losing myself'. M/s dynamics have an intensity that can be frightening. Arent you proud of yourself for responding so well to your Mistress' training? Afterall, it is you as much as Her who has succeeded in this. *smiles* When the same questions enter my mind, as they do from time to time, i try to think of it as a natural response to the situation, and sit back to carefully review what i really want, how far im willing to go. Most of the time, i would choose to put my trust in the person who owned me, because i know they would consider my wellbeing before asking anything of me. Of course, not everyone really is that trustworthy or responsible, so if you can think clearly enough to see what is a rational fear and what is instinct clearly screaming for you to run....that might also help you define things in your own mind. Like everyone has mentioned, communication is important. If your Mistress knows your concerns, then she can review them and adjust accordingly...or not, as is her will. But it is always better for her to be well aware of what is happening in your head, so that her future decisions take into account your physical, mental and emotional health. Goodluck! Edited 10 Feb 10, 1:25 AM by bastets_daughter 13 Feb 10, 12:56 PM curious_bina US(TN), 2 yrs Spike1977 wrote: IS THIS HEALTHY OR UNHEALTHY,THOUGHTS NEEDED iv'e been Mistresses live in pup-slave for about three months now, and i need some advice on if what is going on with me is healthy,unhealthy and where to draw the line.Mistress has complete control over me physically,emotionally,and financially, infact for most of each day, i spend it in "puppy mode", so much so that its gotten to the point where often i don't respond to my birth name while in human mode anymore,(and while this shows how good of trainer my Mistress is)i can't help but if this is healthy or not for my own mental wellbeing,is it possible to reprogram the human mind into completely changing and forgetting who you used to be? this may be a stupid,even an unthinkable possibility to some, as i once did,but when i started to only respond to my Mistress/partner when she used my puppy name (spike) it got me wondering just how much the human mind could be reprogramed,anyone else ever have these concerns, or have even given it any thought?any input weould be greatly appreciated by this boi. bows to all 918 848 470 It depends on what you like. Some slaves like the idea of being brainwashed by their Master/Mistress. Others would rebel against the idea. Since your puppy name is different from your real name, either you can go by it publicly, or it needs to be toned down. You could easily say it's a nickname from your Mistress No one'll question that. This slave knows a guy who goes by "Spike." If you like how it's going, and it's what you're looking for, maybe you're just tentative and need reassurance. If you don't like the direction, or need it toned down, talk to your Mistress. -s Always the curious one ~ s Next page