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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Eternity collars locking system..." 1 2 3 Eternity collars locking system... (26) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Mon 4 Jan 10, 4:22 PM Mona_Demarkov HR, 2 yrs It seems to me that it is just based on an allen key, so what stops the person wearing the collar (and cuffs) from finding a suitable allen key (especially if they are good with DIY and have loads of tools) and unlocking themselves (besides that they don't want to do that)? Thanks! 4 Jan 10, 4:55 PM Master_Teel US(TX), 4 yrs Assuming it's an consentual enslavement, why would the slave want to take their collar off? My pet's collar (Ring of Steel instead of Eternity, but similar locking mechanism), has the screw held in place with threadlocker to keep it from backing out. She doesn't even know what size screw it is, so sure, she could easily go buy a set of allen keys and "pick" the lock so to speak, but she's going to have to deal with the consequences of such actions. That said, she has no desire at all to remove it. Even if the locking mechanism was more "secure", a suitably motivated person will find a way to remove the collar, even if it meant a using a hacksaw and time. Master_Teel Use Google to search SD: http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:se... 4 Jan 10, 5:00 PM Mona_Demarkov HR, 2 yrs I see, thanks... I know that most slaves are not motivated at most times to remove it, but what's the point of having a locking mechanism at all then? 4 Jan 10, 5:35 PM Master_Teel US(TX), 4 yrs pet doesn't have a key, so to remove it she would have to first seek a key, and then use it. It is widely held that locks only keep honest people honest anyway. The locking system is enough to thwart any casual abuse, which is sufficient for my needs. Ring of Steel does have a tamper-resistant screw that requires a special tool to remove instead of a standard allen key, but this too is basically just a tool and readily available at specialty tool outlets. Master_Teel Use Google to search SD: http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:se... 4 Jan 10, 6:06 PM EvaMaria US(CA), 3 yrs I have several collars, some with actual locks, some with "faux" locks, some without. The only one that is ever locked is one that's used as part of sadistic play. Other than that, whether my collar should even be off or on is left up to me. It's a fairly straightforward decision we both think is best left to me. Eva (The property formerly known as Camille ) 4 Jan 10, 6:06 PM Ettiennes_slut US(OR), 2 yrs Maleficent_Smiles wrote: I see, thanks... I know that most slaves are not motivated at most times to remove it, but what's the point of having a locking mechanism at all then? Not being collared myself i can only imagine it, but the lock would have a psychological impact even if you know in the back of your mind that you could remove it if you were determined. There are days when i can't stop thinking about the relief, contentment, pleasure that knowing i have been "locked" into service to Him will bring. Or at least... that's what i imagine! Ettiennes_slut 4 Jan 10, 10:30 PM SirSeven 2 yrs Maleficent_Smiles wrote: Eternity collars locking system... It seems to me that it is just based on an allen key, so what stops the person wearing the collar (and cuffs) from finding a suitable allen key (especially if they are good with DIY and have loads of tools) and unlocking themselves (besides that they don't want to do that)? Thanks! There is something much stronger than any physical locking mechanism: trust My slave can easily remove the collar at any time if she chose to. However, she is never allowed to remove the collar without prior approval from me. Her trustworthiness is the only "lock" I need. Sir Seven 5 Jan 10, 1:14 AM Oysterspearl US(VA), 3 yrs Maleficent_Smiles wrote: I see, thanks... I know that most slaves are not motivated at most times to remove it, but what's the point of having a locking mechanism at all then? I have a different collar that what my profile pic shows. I need to update my pics on this site. There is a wrench here at the house and one that Master gave to me to keep with me at all times. The main purpose is in case of an emergency and it has to come off while he isn't around. My emergency it would have to be some type of medical emergency for it to happen, but you never know what circumstance you might find yourself in. pearl 5 Jan 10, 1:33 PM Mona_Demarkov HR, 2 yrs I fully understand trust being a big part of it, the order by the Dom/me being enough, and of course it plays an important part in my relationship as well, yet sometimes it is fun to actually be able to lock on something with no chance of removal by the sub/slave, trust or no trust. It is a different type of psychological "game", and to some it can be quite thrilling and delicious. Therefore, some locking mechanisms are better than others. 5 Jan 10, 5:42 PM mamabear NL, 2 yrs What's the point of having a locking system...ummm..in case of emergency where it must be removed. Unless of course you are referring to not using a system to lock it the first place. 5 Jan 10, 6:10 PM Master_Teel US(TX), 4 yrs Axmar makes a locking device that has no key. Once the collar or cuff is in place, the only way to remove it is to cut it off. Master_Teel Use Google to search SD: http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:se... Next page