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	TSR : Web boards : Internal Enslavement : "Are you romantic partners first? or M/s first?" 1 2 3 4 5 Are you romantic partners first? or M/s first? (46) This post is on the Internal Enslavement web board. 4 Jan 10, 1:34 AM 169-158-526 US(TX), 2 yrs s's Master and her have been together for almost 7 years. The relationship started out vanilla - but s has always been a submissive and pain junkie with several BDSM relationships in her past, and Master has always had a sadistic streak (but no real BDSM experience) so the relationship has gradually grown to Master taking full possession of s, although she does not live with him. Master now has full control of s when she is physically with him and when she is not - with rules, guidelines and boundaries etc. It would never occur to s to break any of his rules on purpose, and if any of them can't be followed for whatever reason (s has obligations outside of her relationship with Master) Master has always been extremely reasonable so long as she communicates her needs ahead of time. the s/M side had to be put on hold for about two years in the middle of the time s and Master have been together, and it was the hardest two years to get through with the relationship almost ending several times. s was very lost and confused for most of that time, and Master seems to have been as well - so for s and Master it seems that the Master/slave relationship comes first in the big picture, but it wouldn't exist without the love and romance part either.....so it is complicated! 6 Jan 10, 4:51 AM nequam AU, 6 yrs i was staying with someone who was going to through a private play party the next night. Master was a friend and arrived specifically for the party. We never did nilla. We started out M/s only and over time we've added down time into the mix. We are a full de Facto couple, just that He is Master and i am His slave. Which comes first? i can't really say either does. i love and worship Him so much i can't see a time in my life without Him. i guess though, that if He ever did want to become a nilla couple, i would agree to it, but eventually we would separate. But that isn't going to happen, so i don't worry about it. owned property of Master Matt 16 Jan 10, 2:21 AM 300-168-896 CA, 2 yrs Y! I started out as a slave for Master but rapidly fell in love with Him, but he did not have the same feelings. I was crushed but carried on nevertheless but as time went on, i realized I needed more and requested to be released. I am now not owned. 16 Jan 10, 3:33 AM EvaMaria US(CA), 3 yrs It's 50/50 for C and I. We wouldn't live together without a romantic interest and we COULDN'T live together without the agreement that he will lead and I will follow. We've tried. Eva (The property formerly known as Camille ) 20 Jan 10, 12:56 AM slave_of_The_Tesh US(FL), 2 yrs We started out romantic partners, and developed into M/s. However, we do still regard our romantic relationship as the more important of the two. He occasionally reminds me (usually when I seem to be "climbing a tree", which I do, being a high-strung person) that if I feel like I need a break from the M/s part, we can do that at no detriment to our romantic relationship. I never take Him up on that, because my anxiety issues have very little to do with M/s. It's just how I react to highly stressful situations. Besides, it would be more work to get back into it and it might not be the same after a break. Not something I'm willing to risk. It's good to know the option is there if I ever truly need it, though. His Beloved Owned and loved by The_Tesh This post has probably been edited for spelling/grammar because I'm weird like that. 20 Jan 10, 8:41 AM mamabear NL, 2 yrs Wwe started out as just friends. My late Mistress was His friend and He was keeping me informed of Her situation. Before She passed though She asked Him to watch out for me and in some ways take over at least until I was ready for another. Funny thing, Wwe ended up needing to be together. It started out more on the D/s side, but it flourished more as romantic. Strange how things work out sometimes especially when you're not really looking for it or expecting it to happen. It was a very confusing time for me and I certainly wasn't ready to move on, but things just seemed to fall into place. Now I've moved and happier than I think I ever have been. There have been obstacles, but it just feels right. 2 Feb 10, 7:40 AM 794-126-648 US(PA), 2 yrs Master and i started as M/s. that is what each of us were seeking. it is now 8 1/2 months since we met and i have hopes that our relationship will grow and romance will enter into it. if it does, i will be happy but if it doesn't... i will be happy. Sir knows my needs, instinctively, it seems, and He always fulfills them. The moment we begin to fear the opinions of others and hesitate to tell the truth that is in us, and from motives of policy are silent when we should speak, the divine floods of light and life no longer flow into our souls. - Elizabeth Cady Stanton 2 Feb 10, 6:27 PM Jack_Reed UK, 3 yrs Mistress_Dea wrote: I have since been very lucky to find a replacement slave via these boards and it is now well trained and an excellent slave. There is again no emotional or vanilla relationship between us at all. Do you really mean this? I understand a dislike of sentimentality but the process of enslavement must surely involve emotions. Whilst I have seen many M/s relationships compromised by the owner 'falling in love' with the slave and subsequently losing focus on the central M/s dynamic I have also seen many relationships where the slave's love for their owner has been the key to their deeper surrender. 7 Feb 10, 11:55 AM 562-470-768 2 yrs this girl is wondering why there has to be a seperation? she reckons there are loads of romance in a M/s relationship. this girl imagines they run hand in hand and partly contributes this to the fact that a M/s relationship has been romantisised by fantasy (our own that is). she thinks it does not matter how you try to you cannot seperate it; that gentle touch on your cheek when you have done something good, or you have overcome a particularly difficult hurdle, the stroke over your hair, the deep look into your eyes when He commands you, the pride that shows when He looks at you, your joy when you see Him, your anticipation when you serve him... now isn't that romantic and STILL very M/s? as for 'no vanilla or emtional' AT ALL? this girl totally struggles to imagine this to be true. the basic foundation of a M/s relationship is trust. trust is a action directly relating to an emotional state of mind. physical contact of any sorts results in an emotional action or reaction... perhaps this girl is too analytical, but vanilla is simply a term to use for better understanding of the 'not so understanding world out there'. far be it for this girl to say that perhaps there was no truth in that statement, she truly finds it very difficult to believe - yet she will accept it. We are all vanilla to some degree - for society will keep a foothold in our lives. We are all Dom/mes or slave/sub on some level, as there is ALWAYS someone weaker or stronger than you... Edited 7 Feb 10, 11:59 AM by 562-470-768 8 Feb 10, 4:39 PM Mistress_Dea UK, 3 yrs The relationship my slave has with me reflects the fact that I believe it worships me. Seeing me as some sort of Godess. I can assure you I don,t see myself as a Godess but it is how my slave views me. I am happy to accept its service and to use it for my pleasure without offering it any "love" in return. If this is unique then I am then lucky one. Next page