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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "cheating Master" 1 2 3 4 5 cheating Master (48) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 4 Jul 09, 3:35 AM 333-528-841 CA, 3 yrs Well, as was said by others earlier, you need to respect yourself enough to not put up with what you are saying. It sounds like you do not have a Master, but more of a player. He sounds as if he likes to play online but does not have the skills, self discipline, or respect for others to actually bring it to RL as a Master or even a dominant. He can live in a fantasy world online and be a bully in person. There is a difference between being dominant and being abusive. If he is saying these things to you, that is a form of abuse whether he puts his hands on you or not. I am glad you are looking at your options but lets be realistic here. Do you really think things will get better or work out? I am not even talking about D/s, M/s or BDSM. This is your life by what you are saying. No one deserves to live like that. You have to look after yourself because it does not sound like he will. Looking after yourself may mean having to leave the situation. If you have no family or friends to turn to, there are other options in North America. You could look up some agencies and see what help can be offered or approach a Minister for advice or assistance. You may need to be one with yourself and spend some time by yourself for awhile.(I don't mean alone, I mean without jumping into a relationship or having to have a boyfriend or lover) I say this because IMHO, you should think honestly about what you really want in life, what your needs and wants really are, where you want to be and what you want to be doing in the next 6 mos, next year and even 5 years from now. It takes patience and hard work having to achieve things on your own and yes, it is hard work. This will only make you stronger as a woman and a submissive so you can be proud of what you have achieved and have more to offer once your do find the right Master for you. I hope you do what is best for you and your future. 333-528-841 Edited 4 Jul 09, 3:37 AM by 333-528-841 4 Jul 09, 3:35 AM EilisMoonfire US(WA), 4 yrs I'd like to know why he thinks he can run away with this sl slave when, as you said, she is a MARRIED slave of another 'Master' One day soon Master will come home and this slave will be whole again. 4 Jul 09, 6:56 AM 951-849-366 US(WA), 2 yrs 284-122-181 wrote: I have found another Master worthy of my love I am just waiting to get some extra money so I can leave to go be with him. He says he has already found a collar for me and is going to get a band for my finger as well and that I will no longer be a slave but a sub to him. He fell in love with me the moment he talked to me and we have been spending our mornings together online and any spare moments we can. 284-122-181 wrote: I haven't been looking to replace my Master get your story straight ... you live with him, have for a year, and met on SL... so, think about how the other girl he has feels, she had been with him for some time... and then he met you on SL and you moved to be with him/them. she has been with him 4 years, correct? so, speak with her... she knows how you are feeling, because you made her feel that way. you said he took your collar away... but if you never really had one, why are you making such a huge deal of it? you've only wore it three times in a year, during training sessions... and you haven't had a training session in 2 months... doesn't sound like a collar means a whole lot to either of you. if you are so unhappy with the situation, you know what to do. leave. don't sit there and try to find justification and sympathy from others. yes, it isn't right how he is treating you, but what you are doing isn't right either. "two wrongs don't make a right." take matters into your own hands and deal with it. just because you are a submissive/slave does not mean you are helpless. be upfront about things, you were given a mind and free will for a reason. use them. 4 Jul 09, 7:02 AM MasterLar US(IN), 2 yrs £ Y! You sound very much like the want a be submissive s I was dealing with in the past. They told lies about what really happened, just to make then look like the victim (The poor little helpless subbie) Oh who will come to save me from the big bad dom. Oh give me a freaking break here. For one you have not came up with one bit of fact here. Two your story is so full of holes. Three your posting some where that your master can't defend himself. I think in fact you was caught doing something wrong by your master and he took your collar away from you, and for something like this to have happen it had to be really bad(Maybe you was the one who was caught cheating). So now your upset and you want to get even. Your making things up as you go a long trying to find someone to aide you in your made up fight. People like you give this lifestyle a bad name. You have no clue what is about. You are self centered and is only about what you can get out of it humm like maybe A COLLAR AND A RING, whats next a house with a white picket fence or a new car. Yes I've seen to many like you who have or try to ruined a good doms reputation. SO my advice is either get out of the lifestyle or be honest about who you are and what you are about!.Learn what it means to be a real slave. When you make it less about you the more it becomes about you. When you can figure out that one then come back. I wish you the best in life. Master Lar Edited 4 Jul 09, 7:09 AM by MasterLar 4 Jul 09, 7:03 PM 333-528-841 CA, 3 yrs MasterLar wrote: You sound very much like the want a be submissive s I was dealing with in the past. They told lies about what really happened, just to make then look like the victim (The poor little helpless subbie) Oh who will come to save me from the big bad dom. Oh give me a freaking break here. For one you have not came up with one bit of fact here. Two your story is so full of holes. Three your posting some where that your master can't defend himself. I think in fact you was caught doing something wrong by your master and he took your collar away from you, and for something like this to have happen it had to be really bad(Maybe you was the one who was caught cheating). So now your upset and you want to get even. Your making things up as you go a long trying to find someone to aide you in your made up fight. People like you give this lifestyle a bad name. You have no clue what is about. You are self centered and is only about what you can get out of it humm like maybe A COLLAR AND A RING, whats next a house with a white picket fence or a new car. Yes I've seen to many like you who have or try to ruined a good doms reputation. SO my advice is either get out of the lifestyle or be honest about who you are and what you are about!.Learn what it means to be a real slave. When you make it less about you the more it becomes about you. When you can figure out that one then come back. I wish you the best in life. Master Lar Although there are quite a few holes in the story, I think there is much more going on than has been said. This goes beyond any dynamics and IMHO involves a woman with low self esteem who may have never really had to make decisions or stand on her own and survive in life. She sounds confused as if not knowing what to do. To say she is making it all up and trying to get even is a bit harsh and not our call. I personally, do no think she is trying to ruin a good doms reputation. It sounds like he is not really a Dom at all. There are a lot of guys around that think WIITWD is an excuse to verbally, mentally and sometimes even physically bat and slap around their SO without really understanding the background or even the history and dynamics of it. They can be quite good at convincing vulnerable, dependant woman that that is what being subbmisive is all about. No, we do not know the full or true story but this is part of "her" perception. Yes, it is frustrating, (I contemplated hitting my own head against the wall ) but hopefully she will take some of the advice given by others, leave an unhealthy situation, get help and sort her life out. Or..... it is all made up. We will never really know but I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt in case someone truly is looking for advice and reaching out. This is just my personal opinion. 333-528-841 5 Jul 09, 5:08 PM 284-122-181 US(MO), 2 yrs Y! 951-849-366 wrote: 284-122-181 wrote: I have found another Master worthy of my love I am just waiting to get some extra money so I can leave to go be with him. He says he has already found a collar for me and is going to get a band for my finger as well and that I will no longer be a slave but a sub to him. He fell in love with me the moment he talked to me and we have been spending our mornings together online and any spare moments we can. 284-122-181 wrote: I haven't been looking to replace my Master get your story straight ... you live with him, have for a year, and met on SL... so, think about how the other girl he has feels, she had been with him for some time... and then he met you on SL and you moved to be with him/them. she has been with him 4 years, correct? so, speak with her... she knows how you are feeling, because you made her feel that way. you said he took your collar away... but if you never really had one, why are you making such a huge deal of it? you've only wore it three times in a year, during training sessions... and you haven't had a training session in 2 months... doesn't sound like a collar means a whole lot to either of you. if you are so unhappy with the situation, you know what to do. leave. don't sit there and try to find justification and sympathy from others. yes, it isn't right how he is treating you, but what you are doing isn't right either. "two wrongs don't make a right." take matters into your own hands and deal with it. just because you are a submissive/slave does not mean you are helpless. be upfront about things, you were given a mind and free will for a reason. use them. the other girl who lives here wanted him to find a sister for her so she knew about me but I can't tell her things on how I feel or say things that I think she will keep to herself she runs right to Master and tells him what I have said and as far as a collar goes Master put one on my neck 2 days after I moved to be with him but he never enforced me wearing it I have been a sub online to different Masters for over 4 yrs and wore my collar on there proudly never took it off it meant the world to me to be collared 5 Jul 09, 5:16 PM 284-122-181 US(MO), 2 yrs Y! 333-528-841 wrote: Well, as was said by others earlier, you need to respect yourself enough to not put up with what you are saying. It sounds like you do not have a Master, but more of a player. He sounds as if he likes to play online but does not have the skills, self discipline, or respect for others to actually bring it to RL as a Master or even a dominant. He can live in a fantasy world online and be a bully in person. There is a difference between being dominant and being abusive. If he is saying these things to you, that is a form of abuse whether he puts his hands on you or not. I am glad you are looking at your options but lets be realistic here. Do you really think things will get better or work out? I am not even talking about D/s, M/s or BDSM. This is your life by what you are saying. No one deserves to live like that. You have to look after yourself because it does not sound like he will. Looking after yourself may mean having to leave the situation. If you have no family or friends to turn to, there are other options in North America. You could look up some agencies and see what help can be offered or approach a Minister for advice or assistance. You may need to be one with yourself and spend some time by yourself for awhile.(I don't mean alone, I mean without jumping into a relationship or having to have a boyfriend or lover) I say this because IMHO, you should think honestly about what you really want in life, what your needs and wants really are, where you want to be and what you want to be doing in the next 6 mos, next year and even 5 years from now. It takes patience and hard work having to achieve things on your own and yes, it is hard work. This will only make you stronger as a woman and a submissive so you can be proud of what you have achieved and have more to offer once your do find the right Master for you. I hope you do what is best for you and your future. I would like to thank u for being understanding of what I am going thru this has been very hard on me and as far as knowing what to do I don't I am very confused right now and do feel lost I have been looking at options alot and I do want a Master who will look over me and nuture my wellbeing and give me the training and discipline I so need and desire and hopefully someday will have that in my life 5 Jul 09, 5:17 PM The_Captain1974 2 yrs I agree with the sentiments expressed by others. If he has violated the basic covenants of a Master, then he might never have been real or he simply has no honorable intent regarding them. A Master "worth his salt" establishes a contract, binding on both parties. If you signed one and it states in plain language, "I'll grab anything I want and tough luck for you, Susie", well, then you're stuck with the situation until your term is up. However, if his statements to you were on the order of "one and only", "only one of my dreams", "my Precious" (thanks to Tolkien there), You have a serious case for breach of contract (written or verbal). Often here in this mode, we foolishly go on faith in verbal contracts. I prefer a written contract and expect the use of a contract where all parties know what they're getting into AND how to get out. Therefore: Is a contract in effect? If so, what's in it? You may do the honorable thing and sit out the contract until its end, then gracefully say, "Thanks and goodbye" If not, your options are; a. Grab plane fare and head out smartly b. Your place? Demand the key back and in accordance with law have arrangements for the removal of his stuff (possibly on the sidewalk). A Master, a true Master, isn't one to act dishonorably and to disgrace his slave or sub. He acts honorably in all things and especially towards those in his care. If he doesn't consider a slave or sub as "in his care" then there's some issues that will come back again and again. So, is a "contract" of some sort in effect? If so, options? Are you bonded by a term? If so, is it up? If not, then when? Be prepared for heartache as you review these things. If you need advice, feel free to contact me and I'll review the situation based on facts presented. Take care. 5 Jul 09, 5:19 PM 284-122-181 US(MO), 2 yrs Y! EilisMoonfire wrote: I'd like to know why he thinks he can run away with this sl slave when, as you said, she is a MARRIED slave of another 'Master' I don't know the whole story on this but my Master said he will go up and take her out of her situation with her current Master/husband from what I have been told her Master forced her to marry him but I don't know how that is possible and I don't see my Master paying for her divorce either 5 Jul 09, 5:25 PM 284-122-181 US(MO), 2 yrs Y! MasterLar wrote: You sound very much like the want a be submissive s I was dealing with in the past. They told lies about what really happened, just to make then look like the victim (The poor little helpless subbie) Oh who will come to save me from the big bad dom. Oh give me a freaking break here. For one you have not came up with one bit of fact here. Two your story is so full of holes. Three your posting some where that your master can't defend himself. I think in fact you was caught doing something wrong by your master and he took your collar away from you, and for something like this to have happen it had to be really bad(Maybe you was the one who was caught cheating). So now your upset and you want to get even. Your making things up as you go a long trying to find someone to aide you in your made up fight. People like you give this lifestyle a bad name. You have no clue what is about. You are self centered and is only about what you can get out of it humm like maybe A COLLAR AND A RING, whats next a house with a white picket fence or a new car. Yes I've seen to many like you who have or try to ruined a good doms reputation. SO my advice is either get out of the lifestyle or be honest about who you are and what you are about!.Learn what it means to be a real slave. When you make it less about you the more it becomes about you. When you can figure out that one then come back. I wish you the best in life. Master Lar for 1 I have never cheated on my Master do u think I would still be in his household if I did and I wear a ring on my finger as a symbol of the love we 2 share and I am not looking for a collar that has to be earned not just something u accept I do not wish to go into the whole story on here because it would take up so much space Next page