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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "post orgasm submission" post orgasm submission (9) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Thu 25 Jun 09, 12:59 PM 752-049-668 UK, 3 yrs i am an owned gay male slave. somtimes i find that after i have been allowed to cum, my submissiveness and desire to serve diminiashes a bit. i do not like this because i feel i am not being a good slave and would welcome any advice on how to overcome this. many thanks 25 Jun 09, 1:19 PM MasterPJ UK, 3 yrs When a male cums, hormones are released into your system which is why hard chappie becomes floppy chappie very quickly. This means you're fighting against nature to retain your interest, so the only thing I can suggest is repetition, keep doing it again and again and hope that with enough training your submissive levels can be maintained. Good luck! Owner of nika. She is mine and I love her dearly. 25 Jun 09, 2:50 PM 000-174-180 US(WI), 7 yrs Y! 752-049-668 wrote: post orgasm submission i am an owned gay male slave. somtimes i find that after i have been allowed to cum, my submissiveness and desire to serve diminiashes a bit. i do not like this because i feel i am not being a good slave and would welcome any advice on how to overcome this. many thanks i am so glad to read that someone else struggles with this problem too. my solution, albeit imperfect, is to ask Master to refrain from letting me cum. Since i revel in His orgasm, rather than in my own this seems to be a mutually acceptible arrangement. i love focusing my constant sexual tension on Him at all times and in eveything i do. Best wishes, lesley 000-174-180 boytoy2playwith1 25 Jun 09, 3:25 PM Ms_Valentine UK, 4 yrs Some men lose their submissiveness after orgasm and some don't. My sub paul is submissive regardless of whether he has just had an orgasm or is as frustrated as hell. I am lucky as he is extremely easy to handle. What can be done? Well, to put it simply the male slave can force themselves to act 'as if' so they act submissive even if they don't feel it. That way they do not let their Master know they are not feeling particularly subby at that point. Soon, their submissiveness will return and all will be well. If not, maybe the Master has to restrict or deny orgasm entirely if the performance of the slave is not good enough post orgasm to warrant allowing them much or at all. 25 Jun 09, 3:26 PM 752-049-668 UK, 3 yrs Sir, many thanks for your advice, i will work at it and hopefully with further training i will be able to overcome it. lesley, i'm sure we are not the only male slaves who have this problem. my orgasms are controlled and am usually only allowed to cum once a week. being horny and frustrated certainly helps me to focus on serving Sir better. 25 Jun 09, 4:37 PM caethwas UK, 4 yrs I recognise this problem but have never had an issue with it to date. I do not see it as a different level of submissiveness more a different level of sexual arousal. iam naturaly submissive and i am also lucky it is a real pleasure to be sexually submissive whether aroused or not, but i can understand how it might diminish desires (someone mentioned the technical bit about hormones already). However it would only be a problem if your Master allows you to cum, presuming cumming is a pleasure, the gratitude to your Master should more than counteract any change in sexual arousal. caethwas -------- Edited 25 Jun 09, 4:38 PM by caethwas 25 Jun 09, 11:06 PM Ou_pais US, 5 yrs 752-049-668 wrote: post orgasm submission i am an owned gay male slave. somtimes i find that after i have been allowed to cum, my submissiveness and desire to serve diminiashes a bit. i do not like this because i feel i am not being a good slave and would welcome any advice on how to overcome this. many thanks When i'm not feeling submissive, i try (per Master's orders) to communicate that in a respectful way, while continuing to try to follow the normal procedures. This is sometimes pretty hard; i tend to be submissive most of the time but when i'm stressed about other things i do struggle. Reminding myself that this is my life which i signed up for and that most of the time it's the happiest i've ever been, and that if i can just get through this part i'll be ok, sometimes helps. (Oddly enough, post-orgasm is the *easiest* time for me, since i tend not to be very stressed then. ) Have you asked your owner how to handle it? Also, i believe prolonged male orgasm denial can have some negative health effects. Once a week should be safe, but for really prolonged stretches of chastity i would do some research on the possible side effects. pais Edited 25 Jun 09, 11:10 PM by Ou_pais 26 Jun 09, 10:25 PM Undercover_perv 2 yrs Ou_pais wrote: Also, i believe prolonged male orgasm denial can have some negative health effects. Once a week should be safe, but for really prolonged stretches of chastity i would do some research on the possible side effects. This is one of those common myths and misconceptions, A male can go without orgasm for as long as a female can, It's just that males usually don't want to, as we are more sexually active in that department from a young age. So to deny orgasm for longer periods is entirely possible and safe. Edited 26 Jun 09, 10:26 PM by Undercover_perv 27 Jun 09, 5:34 AM landstoree US(LA), 2 yrs Undercover_perv wrote: Ou_pais wrote: Also, i believe prolonged male orgasm denial can have some negative health effects. Once a week should be safe, but for really prolonged stretches of chastity i would do some research on the possible side effects. This is one of those common myths and misconceptions, A male can go without orgasm for as long as a female can, It's just that males usually don't want to, as we are more sexually active in that department from a young age. So to deny orgasm for longer periods is entirely possible and safe. I wonder about that in the light of recent studies showing that in males, increased sexual activity ending in orgasm, decreases the chances of prostate cancer by nearly two thirds - as results from a very large study done by John Hopkins seems to indicate. So while orgasm denial is possible, it may have some negative longer term effects. 27 Jun 09, 9:53 AM SeanT70 9 yrs landstoree wrote: Undercover_perv wrote: Ou_pais wrote: Also, i believe prolonged male orgasm denial can have some negative health effects. Once a week should be safe, but for really prolonged stretches of chastity i would do some research on the possible side effects. This is one of those common myths and misconceptions, A male can go without orgasm for as long as a female can, It's just that males usually don't want to, as we are more sexually active in that department from a young age. So to deny orgasm for longer periods is entirely possible and safe. I wonder about that in the light of recent studies showing that in males, increased sexual activity ending in orgasm, decreases the chances of prostate cancer by nearly two thirds - as results from a very large study done by John Hopkins seems to indicate. So while orgasm denial is possible, it may have some negative longer term effects. Right, let's clear a few things up here; Firstly there is a big difference between ejaculation and orgasm, yet some people get that confused; Orgasm is the muscle-flexing twitch in the erect penis (during arousal and up to ejaculation); whereas Ejaculation is the actual release of the bodily fluid we know as semen. Now, pais has concerns about prostate health, and of course, she's right to have, but the fcat of the matter is a guy doesn't have to cum to address this; milking the prostate suffices and the poor owned slave gets absolutely no joy out of it, because whilst prostate health is maintained, ejaculation is very hard to gain. So googling Prostate milking, prostate massage, prostate health is good. What happens then if a guy gets masturbated (or whatever)and not allowed to cum - driven wild by their owner? (etc); OK, this is what we call a 'Retrograde Ejaculation'; 'if' the M-type can find the right point in time where their s is about to pop and they stop, instead of ejaculating, the ejaculant backflows into the bladder, and is consumed by normal processes in the body; the bonus here is that prostate health is optimum because it gets fully emptied of semen when this happens. 'RE' is perfectly safe people, and a male will come to no harm through having it done to them, except not being able to cum (properly) - again... The only thing that does stand to be affected by the constant lack of ejaculation is the quality of sperm will decrease over time, but if you happen to be gay, then I'm not sure this is an issue, and even then all that really needs to happen is that the regime of sexual activity needs to be allowed to increase so that the production line in the testes can move along - bearing in mind it takes nearly 170 days to produce a fully functioning healthy sperm... There is plenty of reading on the subject of male non-allowances all over the net; I get most of what I've written because we've read from them and practice safely because of it; and to be on the safe side, I get health checks regularly. I mean, look...to answer one of the timeline related aspects of he thread, I haven't been allowed to cum since 3rd week in March - and I don't know when a release will come again... ..having said that, cumming is used as punishment, and I stand to be punished if I cum - at all - a fetish of mine where I happen to be married to a sadist. I trust that covers everything? (lol) Regards, Sean. Lovingly Owned by ~Miss Phay~