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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Denied after care as part of punishment" 1 2 3 Denied after care as part of punishment (30) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 14 Jun 09, 7:07 PM MasterOmerta88 US(IA), 3 yrs Y! moebius_slave wrote: omerta88 wrote: My aunt was in an abusive relationship so dont think I don't know what I'm talking about. Her husband would beat my cousin till he couldn't sit and give my aunt black eyes. Afterwards he would always come home with a gift for her and my cousin talking about, "I'm so sorry, it will never happen again... ect. Refer to the poem "HE Brought Me Flowers" i am in no way calling you an abuser as i don't know you personally...but, (there's always a but isn't there?), BUT i would like to point out that not all abuse is physical. there is one thing that my first husband respects...his own skin. after my father found out what he was doing to me and offered to remove said skin, he didn't hit me anymore...the emotional abuse was just as bad though. i am very very familiar with this poem, its one of the things that helped me to gather courage to leave my first husband. while you may not have intentionally set out to abuse your pet, you still damaged her trust in you. imo, without trust...there is nothing. even if we don't take any of that into account, and just look at the title of the thread, the exact thing your pet had an issue with, aftercare...aftercare is not coddling, it is not positive reinforcement. its is only that...aftercare. something she only did not receive directly after...or hours...it was days afterwords. blissful deviant wrote: After dropping me off, I didn't leave my apartment or speak to anyone for days. I sat around the place, staring at walls and was just generally out of it and not recovering at all. if her mental state was bad to begin with and then you don't hear from her for days on end, no one hears from her for days on end...well, wouldn't it be your responsibility as her M/O/D/Whatever to check on her? I just wanted to poimt out the blissfull is not My pet... I was posting to My pets reply to the op All great things must first wear a horrible and monstrous mask to inscribe themselves on the hearts and minds of humanity 14 Jun 09, 11:35 PM moebius_slave US(LA), 3 yrs eek! sincerest apologies The devil came to me last night and asked what I wanted in exchange for my soul. I still can't believe I said pizza. Friggin' cravings. 8 Jul 09, 3:29 AM stevew44 4 yrs and he admits that he lost control. (Quote) That alone right there is what i consider a "Terminating Offense" Meaning you need to Terminate your relationship with him Immediediately ! i have been in this lifestyle a long time. i am curently Mistress Janda's collared and owned boy. Mistress Janda and i firmly Believe in a few things. 1. Never punish when the offense first happens. He/She must take time to clear their head. 2. Never punish whilst the both of you are in the wrong frame of mind. 3. Never punish in an ABUSIVE manner. In this case. kicking you the curb as it may be. I have Full Trust in my Mistress/Owner. As it should be with any M/s D/s relationship. And i don't believe this is just in my eyes , but you will find in the eyes and hearts of Many True Masters and Dominants. The fact that he (Quote) admitted he lost control. Should have been the breaking point. If it is not. It SHOULD be ! I love my Mistress dearly. But regardless of that love and devotion i have for her. If she were to ever lose control and do something that would persay rip my heart and feelings out and worst of all "Break that Trust". Hurtful as it would be , i would Terminate our relationship. Because just a sub/slave can be punished for unruly behavior , that is the One rule that applies to the Master/Mistress/Dom/Domme I will quote the words many Wise Masters and Mistress's. How can a Master or Mistress control their sub/slave if they cannot control theirself ? i hope things have gotten better for you. i'm sorry if i cannot say the same for your master.. Sincerely boy steve 11 Aug 09, 3:26 AM Miss_Arya DE, 2 yrs I am very much in agreement with the majority of the posters on this board. It was wrong for him to punish you when extremely angry, and when you were in a bad mental state as well. Masters/Mistresses should know their slaves well enough to know when not to push -- the well-being and health of a slave should come first, definitely, and the total lack of aftercare appalls me as a Mistress. 12 Aug 09, 3:39 AM gutterfag US, 2 yrs i was taught by the wonderful man who trained me that i am property but i am a valuable piece of property and that i wasn't to be abused. my standard of conduct is to ask "Is this anyway to treat a stradavarious violin? or a grand piano?" if it is then well You'd lose them too. i was also taught that no scene is complete without aftercare. It is not coddeling it is part of the scene. Thank Your for allowing the fag to comment. gutterfag 6 Sep 09, 3:41 AM MasterChris 3 yrs first, your Master has your best interest in mind. it is not the position of any other Master to interject anything contradictory - your Master knows you best - and your punishment is based on the relationship you have with Him... or at least should be. second... In My opinion, denial of aftercare is tremendously cruel. I didn't see in what you wrote that I (Myself) would have given such punishment....however, your Master has the ultimate final say so in what your punishment shall be. 3rd... the story to which I am replying is your point of view. your Master has his own vision of what you need and deserve... let's just make sure that you understand... if at any time you think to stand up for yourself... remember that you committed to kneeling at His command. 7 Sep 09, 10:26 PM moebius_slave US(LA), 3 yrs MasterChris wrote: first, your Master has your best interest in mind. it is not the position of any other Master to interject anything contradictory - your Master knows you best - and your punishment is based on the relationship you have with Him... or at least should be. second... In My opinion, denial of aftercare is tremendously cruel. I didn't see in what you wrote that I (Myself) would have given such punishment....however, your Master has the ultimate final say so in what your punishment shall be. 3rd... the story to which I am replying is your point of view. your Master has his own vision of what you need and deserve... let's just make sure that you understand... if at any time you think to stand up for yourself... remember that you committed to kneeling at His command. in your first paragraph, you seem to be stating that the 'master' is perfect. not the case, no one is perfect, that's what makes us human and to imply anything different is silly. and your last statement...just because she commits to kneeling does not make her a doormat. there is a perfect time to stand up for ones self and that happens to be when someone else is wrong or doing them harm. The devil came to me last night and asked what I wanted in exchange for my soul. I still can't believe I said pizza. Friggin' cravings. 9 Sep 09, 3:19 AM 721-832-383 US, 3 yrs Agrees with what has been said here by everyone, thinks maybe you might see that so many here find it "Wrong" "Wrong" "Wrong".... Only you know how you feel inside and yet you have made such a clear statement.. There is a "line" that has been crossed and "Trust" that has been broken, and most importantly "Lack of Self-Control" which is a very scary issue, Please think long and hard if you so choose to forgive this man... If you are worried it may or could even "possibly" happen again, Don't look Back.. we as slaves or subs are not doormats and do deserve, respect,understanding and a feeling of safety, we give are all, complete and entirety to our Master's or Doms, which should be handled with "great care", precious property... best wishes to you... cat property 11 Sep 09, 6:56 AM MasterChris 3 yrs moebius_slave: you actually interpreted what I was meaning and said it back to perfection so that others could understand what I was trying to say. So, wow... you totally get it... moebius_slave wrote: MasterChris wrote: first, your Master has your best interest in mind. it is not the position of any other Master to interject anything contradictory - your Master knows you best - and your punishment is based on the relationship you have with Him... or at least should be. second... In My opinion, denial of aftercare is tremendously cruel. I didn't see in what you wrote that I (Myself) would have given such punishment....however, your Master has the ultimate final say so in what your punishment shall be. 3rd... the story to which I am replying is your point of view. your Master has his own vision of what you need and deserve... let's just make sure that you understand... if at any time you think to stand up for yourself... remember that you committed to kneeling at His command. in your first paragraph, you seem to be stating that the 'master' is perfect. not the case, no one is perfect, that's what makes us human and to imply anything different is silly. and your last statement...just because she commits to kneeling does not make her a doormat. there is a perfect time to stand up for ones self and that happens to be when someone else is wrong or doing them harm. 11 Sep 09, 4:31 PM 186-306-559 US(NC), 2 yrs I believe that feeling of ultimate safety with one's Master is of the utmost importance. Knowing that no matter how intense a scene may get, He is there to care for You afterwards is crucial. I also agree with you that if you were going through a difficult time emotionally anyway, why would a loving Master want to add to your fragile emotional state? There have been times when my Master has prepared a certain scene for me...but immediately upon my arrival, He can sense if I am needing something else or if it is just not the right time. He will immediately change His plans. I can understand why this episode would lessen the trust you had in your Master. I would definitely continue to talk to Him about how this made you feel...and be assertive in saying it without being disrespectful.