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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "The Role of Recreational Drugs" 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 The Role of Recreational Drugs (79) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 18 Jun 09, 8:06 AM SeanT70 9 yrs Blissful_Deviant wrote: JRCs_petk wrote: Are their views simply due to the fact that they're still growing up and learning how to behave like a responsible adult? Ahhhh nope, my Owner is 10yrs older than me. He's in his 30's and has no issue with it And, being in the under 25's category... Define responsible adult? Are adults not allowed to indulge? In which case... I know many people who are two to three times my age who are not adults ha ha ha. With responses like that, it's no great wonder the planet and the population is in grave trouble from self-destruction. Of course we as adults are 'allowed' self-indulgence, but during indulging ourselves we have a responsibility to reasonably protect ourselves and those around us from harm. It is perfectly possible to have fun without 'indulging oneself in any case, and thus not pose any conceivable risks given above at all. To suggest that smoking marijuana is risk-free is folly; the risks are endless - it simply comes down to the fact that the people that wish to act irresponsibly, regardless of age, push the limits of whatever reason the smoke the stuff for, to suit their own needs. I understand these people may have medical problems illiciting the need for them to 'indulge' - so indulge when you bloody well need it! - I say that as someone who has been down that route; I have Cerebral Palsy, have used Cannabis for muscle pain in the past, but can't abide the high and other effects I get from it - that and the thing of it making me have the most epic epileptic seizures - but we won't go into that, because it does no harm. That's only the beginning of why it's not a good thing; I could go on but I won't. The other thing I will say is simply this; Phay is 23 (as her profile might suggest), and much my junior; as such she is perhaps one of the 'few'-er who think contrary to the 'norm' referred to in kim's post to the point where she can't abide drugs of any kind and won't tolerate any such talk about how good they are on any level - and certainly she'd be mortified if she found 'me' to be abusing my medical condition to get off on them. With that, I have to attend a GPs appointment regarding that very condition, which is aggaravating in my very drugless state. Enjoy your day, Sean. Lovingly Owned by ~Miss Phay~ 18 Jun 09, 10:25 AM MasterOmerta88 US(IA), 3 yrs Y! I personally dont hold any weight in drug use no matter what the situation is. I don't judge people who do (to each their own) but I have always believed that an altered mental state doesn't do anyone any good. Over the years growing up I won't lie.. I have done my fair share of experementation. Some was fun some not so fun. I just can't stand the feeling of not being in total control over my own mind. (If you cant have total controll over yourself then how could you expect to have total control over another?) All great things must first wear a horrible and monstrous mask to inscribe themselves on the hearts and minds of humanity 18 Jun 09, 10:25 AM Blissful_Deviant AU, 2 yrs Isn't that the definition of being an adult? Selecting activities which are enjoyable to yourself, which you enjoy doing in your own private time, without hurting others? Not rushing into things, deciding "I want to try this! This sounds awesome!!" and going and finding a crack dealer on the street lol there's a huge difference between choosing to dabble occasionally, and abusing drugs... Isn't this post meant to be about the *recreational* use by adults who choose to? Not about junkies or the morality or legality issue? Hehe I love these sorts of discussions - they're so black and white, people get so upset and angry about it all *lol* One side or another eh? Seems sadly small minded. Not all "users" or "dabblers" are junkies - different people have fun in different ways. Everything in moderation I say! If you're having fun and not hurting anyone, who cares? I'm not *encouraging* drug use and would never insist someone has it just because I am, I'm just saying - consenting adults should be able to choose what they want to do in their own time. Sorry if that sounds "young" of me Actually... Nope not sorry. This is a discussion, not a tribunal meeting. xo Bliss 18 Jun 09, 12:29 PM SirSeven 3 yrs Blissful_Deviant wrote: Hehe I love these sorts of discussions - they're so black and white, people get so upset and angry about it all *lol* Can you give us some examples of people who have become "angry and upset" in this thread? The only ones who are ranting and upset here are the OP and you, although the OP has since stopped responding. So now it's just you, LOL. Please also note that my earlier response was not one of condemnation over the use of drugs. I merely responded to the OP's misguided claim that marijuana "is not harmful for you." Sir Seven 18 Jun 09, 12:47 PM thegildedlili 3 yrs SirSeven wrote: Please also note that my earlier response was not one of condemnation over the use of drugs. I merely responded to the OP's misguided claim that marijuana "is not harmful for you." ditto! i have no need, for such things, but to make you happy... Josh Pyke 18 Jun 09, 12:51 PM SeanT70 9 yrs Blissful_Deviant, No-one suggested that as an adult we shouldn't be able to do as we like, but I'll re-iterate that it shouldn't be at detriment to those around us. Having said that, look at it from a slightly different angle; OK, you wanna take drugs as a 'dabbler' to go have fun, to go clubblin', raise da roof, or whatever.. Fine...do that and be as irresponsible as you'd like to. But, what I'm saying is this; if you feel the need to recreate with drugs to go somewhere or do something - then what's the point of going to that particular place or doing that particular thing in the first place? I'll give you an example; I'm a cutter, I like to cut myself - in the arty sense, not the crazed sense (although I have in the past); I like the pain and the rush I get from it while I'm doing it. Now, why on Earth would I take painkillers (drugs in 'this'case) to alter the experience or change the sensation of what I'm doing? That would just be nuts-er than perhaps cutting myself is, but then I'm doing no harm to you, am I? Another..if you really do love the person you're with, and enjoy sex that you have with them, why is it then, that you need to alter it with drugs? Are you then kidding yourself that you're physically attracted to that person or, can you not perform without this enhancement? I'd question the logistics of the relationship, not the drug-usey-dabbli-junking within it at all. There have been some quality posts by more learned and esteemed members of this board that have found themselves out of turn, and for what, simply because irresponsibility, you, and the OP didn't particularly get to read the responses they'd've liked to. Shame that. Sean. *edited for direction of post* Lovingly Owned by ~Miss Phay~ Edited 18 Jun 09, 1:06 PM by SeanT70 18 Jun 09, 3:24 PM Blissful_Deviant AU, 2 yrs *Posted after instruction.* Owner: mmm well it does soound like you wanna get something off your chest bliss: orrrrr i could save my time and say "okay getting dizzy with the circles, can't be arsed wasting my time on a detailed response which will only gain me enemies so lets say 'drugs r bad mmmmmkay' and go knit some sweaters and cut ourselves in an arty way" Owner: oh yes. PERFECT!! bliss: hahaha. They're gonna hate me. Awesome. love you all hehe don't mind my cheekiness, i sometimes enjoy provoking people. Apologies if i have been too bratty Edited 18 Jun 09, 3:26 PM by Blissful_Deviant 20 Jun 09, 9:35 AM JRCs_petk HK, 4 yrs Y! *Scratches head.... did anyone understand that? I think this thread appears to outlived it's purpose. 20 Jun 09, 1:58 PM EvaMaria US(CA), 3 yrs JRCs_petk wrote: My next comment will appear to be rather ageist, please, understand it is just an observation. Most respondents in this thread who are 'pro' chemical use, are in the sub 25 age bracket. Are their views simply due to the fact that they're still growing up and learning how to behave like a responsible adult? It's not so much "ageist" as it is condescending, I think. It's part and parcel to disparage another's logic, but invalidating the opinions of those who disagree via questioning their ability to form valid opinions (as in those 18 - 25 years may not be mentally/emotionally "up" to the task) is as effective a way of spoiling a discussion as any other. For myself, I will tell I just turned 42 and my thinking re: recreational drug use hasn't changed significantly at least since I was 18. If anything, my experience confirmed my opinions. Eva (The property formerly known as Camille ) 20 Jun 09, 4:55 PM socair UK, 3 yrs MasterRevolver wrote: Marijuana is not harmful for you. It does not impair your driving, your basic decision making skills, or make you aggressive. It makes you feel good, makes you hungry, and makes you lazy. To categorically state the above is disingenuous to say the least. There have been plenty studies recently which indicate that marijuana use: - Increases the chance of causing a fatal car accident - Contributes to the development of serious mental health problems, particularly psychotic illnesses and depression -Decreases motivation in the longer term If it works for you then fine, it's your choice to use drugs and take any associated risks. Just please do not assume it is harmless for everyone, because that is simply not true and contradicts recent evidence. To answer the original question recreational drugs play no part in my life, bondage or otherwise. I certainly wouldn't want to be restrained by someone who was psychotic, depressed or lazy. Next page