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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "The Role of Recreational Drugs" 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 The Role of Recreational Drugs (79) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Mon 8 Jun 09, 2:53 AM MasterRevolver US(CA), 4 yrs I don't want to step on any toes or bring the wrath of banishment from above - I want to calmly discuss a very real, though not very talked about, part of life. If the topic needs to be deleted, so be it, but I hope you'll give it a chance. For those bold enough to answer, what role if any do recreational drugs play in your bondage life? Good terms to know for replying to a thread like this would include AFOAF (a friend of a friend) or SWIM (someone who isn't me). Being a California resident, my pet and I both have cards making it legal for us to possess and smoke marijuana. Now, I've been smoking the good herb for years, and in fact my pet was my best smoking companion long before I collared her as my own. There's something so romantic about having your pet delicately break apart the bud, press it ever so gently into a freshly cleaned one-of-a-kind glass piece from an artist back home, and hold it up to me with both hands and a smile. "For you, Master." she says. It makes our time together very intimate on many occasions, where we'll lay together and listen to Steve Miller Band and enjoy each others' warmth. But on the other hand, it definitely makes me less aggressive, and sometimes flat out lazy. Less so now that I've cut back, but still, sometimes I feel like she uses it as an excuse to get away with little transgressions. But we pretty much just keep it to that, aside from a hard drink here and there. W/we've seen enough friends go down the terrible road of opiate addiction to know how bad things can get. But AFOAF believes with all his heart that careful psychedelic use can bring two people closer together than anything else on this planet. I wish everyone could feel that sort of empathy without outside chemicals. 8 Jun 09, 2:57 AM JRCs_petk HK, 4 yrs Y! MasterRevolver wrote: I wish everyone could feel that sort of empathy without outside chemicals. Simple answer, we do. Love in itself can be far more intoxicating. 8 Jun 09, 5:17 AM slave_emma US(OK), 6 yrs Y! My Master and I don't use any recreational drugs during play or in life in general. We do not feel drug usage is conducive to a loving and productive life. I would never advocate for the use of any recreational drug or “good herb” in S&M play or at any point in life (regardless of the challenges life brings). My feelings on drug usage is very different from your own viewpoint. I see drug usage as destructive and damaging to the user of the drug and the people around the drug user. My former Master smoked pot and oftentimes when he was stoned he would beat me to the point where it would cause bodily harm. I am sure that this is not the response you were hoping for, but it is authentically mine. Best wishes, slave emma Master Howard's little girl 8 Jun 09, 6:21 AM Master_SL CA, 5 yrs The choice drug for My slave and I is "Us" but we do on occasion par take in a glass of wine which in itself is a drug just that it is seen as socially acceptable. Any drug may they be soft or hard is going to have an impact on that person. I would venture to say there is an elevated element of risk if one is under the influence that could potentially backfire. I personally prefer to be sharp minded and revel in our naturally fulfilling exchange. Hey each to their own...if it works for you and noone is hurt other than what is intended do what you will. Regards, Master_SL 8 Jun 09, 2:51 PM allalone47 US(OH), 6 yrs Any drug leagal or illeagal dampens and distorts any and all parts of what we do. Both in pleasure and safty. If you have to get high on a drug to be able to get into the pleasure of what you and your slave are doing then you are not realy feeling what it truly is and putting your slave in harms way. You can not be in control on any drug and yes that includs boose. A owner must always be in control of thenself when in play adn a slave must have total control of there phisical being so as to let the owner know if something is wrong. Any drug and yes boose dampens the responce time and the ability to tell if something is wrong In medical marawana why do you think it is given. It dampens the maind amd senses of pain and the reactions to it. and the mental control to make quick dnd smart distions on what is happening around you. To do what we do you and your slave must be clear headed at all times Even a prosctiption drug distorts that. Drugs and or boose and play in this life don't mix. And if you need a outside stimulant to get off then you are not realy feeling what it is to realy feel what it is we feel in this. It is distorted by the drugs and not real Edited 25 Oct 09, 1:45 PM by allalone47 8 Jun 09, 10:05 PM MasterRevolver US(CA), 4 yrs I guess I should have assumed I'd get such hostile responses from this question (This doesn't apply to all posts). But I hoped of all people, this board would be understanding of an alt lifestyle, but instead I'm getting "drugs are bad because drugs are bad". Marijuana is not harmful for you. It does not impair your driving, your basic decision making skills, or make you aggressive. It makes you feel good, makes you hungry, and makes you lazy. You can feel free to prove me wrong. The only reason marijuana gets such negative press is from public ignorance and the shockwave of William Randolf Hearst's hemp smear campaign to keep making ridiculous money and clear-cut forests. Look it up, this is not hippie propaganda. I hope that you can look beyond the cultural taboo and understand that used in moderation, certain substances can add a new flavor to some peoples' lives. Having a new mindset for a few hours isn't something to be afraid of, but it's absolutely something to do in MODERATION. You don't get drunk and do asphyxia play, you don't do three lines of coke and get the ropes out. But getting a little stoned and sharing that sort of experience with My pet is a very fun and safe vacation from normalcy. I apologize if I offended anyone, but this is a very special part of My and My pets life. I encourage you to share personal stories and experiences instead of using this as a thread to rub my nose in what is advertised as "evil activity". People have said the same thing about bdsm/s&m, and every one of us knows it. 8 Jun 09, 10:10 PM MasterRevolver US(CA), 4 yrs slave_emma wrote: My Master and I don't use any recreational drugs during play or in life in general. We do not feel drug usage is conducive to a loving and productive life. I would never advocate for the use of any recreational drug or “good herb” in S&M play or at any point in life (regardless of the challenges life brings). My feelings on drug usage is very different from your own viewpoint. I see drug usage as destructive and damaging to the user of the drug and the people around the drug user. My former Master smoked pot and oftentimes when he was stoned he would beat me to the point where it would cause bodily harm. I am sure that this is not the response you were hoping for, but it is authentically mine. Best wishes, slave emma I do want to touch on this, however. I have seen this quagmire happen, that people become aggressive while under the influence of marijuana, which is truly a radical on the other end of the spectrum to what the great majority of other smokers experience. You usually see this sort of behavior with alcoholics and people on stimulants. Calling on my years of personal experience with all sorts of stoners, let me say this - the GREAT majority of people who are violent when stoned are people with violent tendencies from the get-go or have mental instability strong enough to shine through the "purple haze" so to speak. I am deeply sorry you had such a bad experience, and even moreso if what I said about your previous master is insulting. You just bring up a very interesting case. 8 Jun 09, 11:18 PM thegildedlili 3 yrs MasterRevolver wrote: I guess I should have assumed I'd get such hostile responses from this question (This doesn't apply to all posts). But I hoped of all people, this board would be understanding of an alt lifestyle, but instead I'm getting "drugs are bad because drugs are bad". what a shame that you don't like people disagreeing with your point of view! why post a topic for discussion that you really don't want to discuss, that is, unless everyone *agrees* with you?! i didn't notice any hostile comments actually, just calm opposition to your opinion. MasterRevolver wrote: Marijuana is not harmful for you. It does not impair your driving, your basic decision making skills, or make you aggressive. It makes you feel good, makes you hungry, and makes you lazy. You can feel free to prove me wrong. The only reason marijuana gets such negative press is from public ignorance and the shockwave of William Randolf Hearst's hemp smear campaign to keep making ridiculous money and clear-cut forests. Look it up, this is not hippie propaganda. wrong, wrong and wrong, it does all of these things that you state it doesn't, and this is backed up by science. to suggest it doesn't is just plain ignorant. and on top of that, you are clearly not up to date with current research which links marijuana use to schitzophrenia (if a predisposition exists) and the link between marijuana and impaired brain devlopment in adolescents who smoke it. i personally have seen friends, who have smoked dope for a sustained period, go from functioning perfectly normally to having schitzophrenia and unable to hold down jobs, relationships etc, yet you say it is not harmful! MasterRevolver wrote: I apologize if I offended anyone, but this is a very special part of My and My pets life. I encourage you to share personal stories and experiences instead of using this as a thread to rub my nose in what is advertised as "evil activity". People have said the same thing about bdsm/s&m, and every one of us knows it. that's really great for you, but don't come here expecting people to validate that and then complaining when they don't! rubbing your nose in it? *you* started the thread for goodness sake! MasterRevolver wrote: slave_emma wrote: My Master and I don't use any recreational drugs during play or in life in general. We do not feel drug usage is conducive to a loving and productive life. I would never advocate for the use of any recreational drug or “good herb” in S&M play or at any point in life (regardless of the challenges life brings). My feelings on drug usage is very different from your own viewpoint. I see drug usage as destructive and damaging to the user of the drug and the people around the drug user. My former Master smoked pot and oftentimes when he was stoned he would beat me to the point where it would cause bodily harm. I am sure that this is not the response you were hoping for, but it is authentically mine. Best wishes, slave emma I do want to touch on this, however. I have seen this quagmire happen, that people become aggressive while under the influence of marijuana, which is truly a radical on the other end of the spectrum to what the great majority of other smokers experience. You usually see this sort of behavior with alcoholics and people on stimulants. Calling on my years of personal experience with all sorts of stoners, let me say this - the GREAT majority of people who are violent when stoned are people with violent tendencies from the get-go or have mental instability strong enough to shine through the "purple haze" so to speak. I am deeply sorry you had such a bad experience, and even moreso if what I said about your previous master is insulting. You just bring up a very interesting case. and this: it doesn't matter about "the great majority of people", especially not to emma, or to my friends who are now schitzophrenics, or their families for that matter, it only takes one person who has a reaction to dope for whatever reason and you have this situation, and yet you say "it's perfectly safe". *scratches head* and just for your information, i've tried it, smoked it over a period of time, and have had no bad it experiences with it *personally*, so i'm not coming from the "drugs are bad because they are bad" perspective, not that i would care if you thought i was, but maybe when you have a first hand experience with it that isn't so positive perhaps you will be a little more open minded about the dangers of it. open mindedness the very thing you are asking other people to be, yet seem so utterly incapable of yourself. i have no need, for such things, but to make you happy... Josh Pyke Edited 8 Jun 09, 11:25 PM by thegildedlili 9 Jun 09, 1:44 AM moebius_slave US(LA), 3 yrs MasterRevolver wrote: Marijuana is not harmful for you. It does not impair your driving, your basic decision making skills, or make you aggressive. It makes you feel good, makes you hungry, and makes you lazy. no...marijuana IS bad for me...it may not be bad for you or your pet, but for me...my ex smoked all the time, my kids and myself went hungry when he smoked the grocery money, or him and all his 'friends' ate everything in the damn house, bills did not get paid when he got fired for selling or passing pot to a coworker, he got mean, i got hit alot, and felt horrible about myself when 4 minutes of totally unremarkable sex was followed up by 10 minutes of coughing and him usually tossing his cookies in the other room. so i beg to differ...it IS bad for me. MasterRevolver wrote: I apologize if I offended anyone, but this is a very special part of My and My pets life. I encourage you to share personal stories and experiences instead of using this as a thread to rub my nose in what is advertised as "evil activity". People have said the same thing about bdsm/s&m, and every one of us knows it. thats my story up there ^^. i am not offended by your post, if you and your pet have an awesome time, thats fantastic for you, im glad for you two i have no room to pass judgment on either of you...just sharing my story. i do have a question though...you say you have a card that makes it legal for you to smoke? im assuming you mean a medical card for it, no? if its for a medical condition, shouldn't you be using it for that and not just to change your 'real life'? i mean, i have a script for pain meds...yes, they disconnect me from the real world, and i HATE it. plus if im using them recreationally, that would leave me in a bind for when i NEED it, would it not? or you can just run out the the corner and get more? The devil came to me last night and asked what I wanted in exchange for my soul. I still can't believe I said pizza. Friggin' cravings. 9 Jun 09, 2:50 AM SirSeven 3 yrs MasterRevolver wrote: The Role of Recreational Drugs ...Being a California resident, my pet and I both have cards making it legal for us to possess and smoke marijuana... <snip> ...But AFOAF believes with all his heart that careful psychedelic use can bring two people closer together than anything else on this planet... <snip> Just to set the record straight, California's Medical Marijuana Program/Compassionate Use Act is intended "to ensure that seriously ill Californians have the right to obtain and use marijuana for medical purposes where that medical use is deemed appropriate and has been recommended by a physician who has determined that the person's health would benefit from the use of marijuana in the treatment of cancer, anorexia, AIDS, chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, migraine, or any other illness for which marijuana provides relief." It is illegal in California to possess marijuana for "recreational" or "psychedelic" use as you described in your post. Don't interpret my comments as an attack. I'm not a "drugs are evil" kind of person. I just think you are bending the rules to suit your own personal views on recreational drug use. You are also misinformed if you believe marijuana isn't harmful. Check here for more information about the health effects of marijuana. Sir Seven Edited 9 Jun 09, 3:02 PM by SirSeven 9 Jun 09, 3:04 AM EvaMaria US(CA), 3 yrs My thinking on the recreational use of marijuana is that it isn't so different from many practices connected with S&M. Bondage done improperly can lead to gangrene or worse - there's been more than a few deaths reported. Flogging can leave scars or cause infection. And I think most of us know one or more couples for whom the "dominance" was less than emotionally healthy. All "edgy" practices can be dangerous and at least in the US, (as a part of "slavery") none of the above are legal. To consider one thing acceptable provided it's done with common sense/responsibility while condemning the other under any circumstance doesn't make sense to me. Eva (The property formerly known as Camille ) Edited 9 Jun 09, 3:17 AM by EvaMaria Next page