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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Why did master do this" 1 2 Why did master do this (13) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Sun 24 May 09, 3:14 PM Slave_Atia US(IL), 2 yrs Y! ok i might be on the wrong board if so just tell me but i dont know where else this wouild fit. So the other day master tells me that he has another women living with him and that he doesnt master over her or anything i am still his only slave but i still feel bad. I still get jealous everytime i think about it is that abnormal at this moment me and master do not live together but what do i do when i do go live with him and what if she isnt gone by then can any give me any advice on what i should do i told master these concerns of mine but he insists that everything will be ok. I dont want to be released from him because he is a great master but i am also constanly find myself competing or having the feeling of competition with this other women. If anyone has every experienced this or can help please do cause i want to please master but i dont want my heart broken in the process! ~Slave isn't just a title it's a way of life~ *Slave Atia* 24 May 09, 3:41 PM Ms_Valentine UK, 3 yrs Well, if Master wasn't totally open and honest with you in the beginning, it does sound to me as though it is a recipe for a broken heart. I suppose if it had been me I would have been very inquisitive about someone's circumstances before I agreed to be their property forever, but then I am me and everyone is different. Doesn't sound as if your Master's attempts at reassurances are working so if you are not happy and don't see yourself being happy, ask to be released. Update: May 2009: How dull and full of fantasists is SD nowadays? I didn't like the old days where it was implied that D/s was lesser than M/s but Bloody Hell, the boards are full of shite nowadays. Still, I am not going to leave, if only because I am a stubborn woman. Is this REALLY the best we can do? 24 May 09, 6:22 PM Orah_T US(PA), 3 yrs parihas experienced this before. when her former Master had 3 slaves. at first pari had no problem with sharing Him. but His first girl did. so what W/we did was W/we sat all sat down and discussed what was the problem. pari knows what it's like to jealous and having to compete for His time and affection. if it's really that bad and you find that you can't share Him. then it would be best to beg release, but if you truly wish to please Him.....then you must learn to live with His decision. 24 May 09, 7:22 PM Ms_Valentine UK, 3 yrs PolygamistTestament wrote: It's really an argument for ethics. Although this is uncomplimentary my heart has been broken so many times I just don't think anyone cares. You might be asking do men care while I would be asking do women care. It used to be that the rules were simple and this kept people honest. So you knew where you stood, kind of. What I am going to give you is going to be vague. You must strive to be wise, but do not harden your heart. So many are jaded and empty and have no love to give. Their soul is barren. Love involves a leap of faith. If your heart is broken, merely become an advocate for ethics. You will not have control over whether he is genuine. You will only have control over whether or not you are. Take solace in whether or not you are any good as a human being. So my recommendation to you is, don't worry about it. Just do the best you can. There are some rules of thumb, however. Do not have sex with him until he has proven himself. This will minimize risk. It is your task to keep him interested. You are a woman after all. You should be able to do this. Forgive me for pointing this out but your response seems to show a strange idea of what a 'slave' means. If the OP is a slave in the lifestyle sense, not as a kind of session based role play, then her rights to refuse her Master sex are already null and void. Slaves are property and that is that. If she wanted to be in a situation where she could refuse to have sex with her Master, she should have not become a slave. My point as always, which I harp on about ad nauseum, is don't become a slave until you know a person inside and out and feel you are ready for lifetime commitment as that is what it ultimately means. More so even than marriage as at least in a marriage of equals, one partner can exit the relationship. Slaves can't leave their Master without his consent. that is in Slavery 101 and everyone should know it and think hard on it before making a huge decision. Update: May 2009: How dull and full of fantasists is SD nowadays? I didn't like the old days where it was implied that D/s was lesser than M/s but Bloody Hell, the boards are full of shite nowadays. Still, I am not going to leave, if only because I am a stubborn woman. Is this REALLY the best we can do? 24 May 09, 7:45 PM 599-734-499 US(WI), 2 yrs Ms Valentine, It it is any consolation, i like reading your posts. Mistress Jessica's slave tom 24 May 09, 9:16 PM 599-734-499 US(WI), 2 yrs Ms Valentine wrote: Forgive me for pointing this out but your response seems to show a strange idea of what a 'slave' means. snip My point as always, which I harp on about ad nauseum, is don't become a slave until you know a person inside and out and feel you are ready for lifetime commitment as that is what it ultimately means. [end quote] ...and i finally figure out what was bothering me about what you said (not very much really). Ownership does not convey unfettered rights. The vast majority of owned animals have strict laws governing their care. A problem arises when you extend ownership to humans because that has specifically been outlawed. Still, it would be a stretch to say that abrogating the laws of human ownership also abrogated basic rules against cruelty. We have organizations that audit the care of animals to verify that the standards of care are being followed. We have organizations (and laws backing them) that do the same for persons under a controlling authority (e.g. in prison). i would argue that we can assume the same for a M/s relationship--though in this case it would have to be through the process of consent. (Unless someone wants to set up a regulatory board for M/s relationships. If so, please let me know. i am there.) Mistress Jessica's slave, tom Edited 24 May 09, 9:20 PM by 599-734-499 25 May 09, 8:36 AM Ms_Valentine UK, 3 yrs PolygamistTestament wrote: Ms_Valentine I fail to see how we disagree. I forgive you abundantly. You brought up some things to think about. In so many ways slavery is what marriage used to be and today we yearn for it. It is the red queen effect that I have spoken of before. Put another way, the more things change, the more they remain the same. There is a need to belong fully and unconditionally. It's so beautiful Ms_Valentine. I want to swoon. The way we disagree, or maybe more correctly misunderstand each other, is that on this site we use the Wiki definitions of certain terms and phrases as per the owner's wishes. Slavery has a set definition with certain elements of that needing to be in place for the criteria for slavery to be met.Like with most definitions of something, a carpet, for example, is a carpet because it has all the necessary elements of carpet-ness in it, it is not a chair or a telephone as it does contain match with the definitions of those things. Anything which suggests a slave may decide whether or not to sleep with her Master is going to cause confusion and Goodness knows there is enough of that on this site at times. Update: May 2009: How dull and full of fantasists is SD nowadays? I didn't like the old days where it was implied that D/s was lesser than M/s but Bloody Hell, the boards are full of shite nowadays. Still, I am not going to leave, if only because I am a stubborn woman. Is this REALLY the best we can do? 26 May 09, 5:46 PM 779-061-353 US(MO), 3 yrs Y! inherantly finding out -everything- about a person is the best... but... and i have to say its a big BUT. People are verrrry diffrent online, at work, on the phone; than when you -live- with them. in my opinon 90% of marriages fail becuase people expect the person they fell in love with to always be that 'public' person they knew. YES get to know the person fully... which may include living with that person on and off for a while before a serious commitment is made. Because you won't know how they are till you get them alone and away from the places they feel they need a facade to make the world belive they are real. Most of those people think the person they are partners with that say 'so and so has changed sooo much since we got married' bull... they didn't change you didn't or refused to see what they were. So watch yourself when you find the person of your dreams, and double check who/what they are before you get suprised.... as i have myself learned over and over *sighs* written kneeling at His feet, leash frimly in place Come check out this girl's writings http://www.freewebs.com/bardic/ Master Silver Wolf approves all this grl's posts they MUST pass his approval before posting 27 May 09, 4:15 AM Slave_Atia US(IL), 2 yrs Y! i am a real slave i am leaving this in his hands to deal with and i am hoping he will take me into consideration as to what i want and need and i know he will because he is a great master but just becuase you are a slave does that mean you have no concerns ~Slave isn't just a title it's a way of life~ *Slave Atia* 27 May 09, 5:55 AM Master_of_atia US, 2 yrs Ok lets get the whole picture here. When atia and I fist talkd there was no intent of anything other then just talking . As time went by things changed . It was then that I let her know I had other legal obilgations ( lease and bills) with another person .I sleep in a different room as them even work off hours .I refuse to kick two babies (4 and 3 ) out on the street just to make someone elses opinion great. As far as atia feeling like she is competeing ...she isnt even sure what she means . I take time everyday to communicate with her and encourage her to be open with me . When asked why she didnt let me know why she felt that way her reply was she didnt know ..that she doesnt even know what she feels she competes for . I have no issue un her asking others questions and to express herself .I dont encourage her to keep things in and let them build . SO while this issue is new to me its something her and I need to dicuss more deeply with each other. Edited 27 May 09, 5:57 AM by Master_of_atia 27 May 09, 6:11 PM Master_SL CA, 5 yrs Master_of_atia wrote: Ok lets get the whole picture here. When atia and I fist talkd there was no intent of anything other then just talking . As time went by things changed . It was then that I let her know I had other legal obilgations ( lease and bills) with another person .I sleep in a different room as them even work off hours .I refuse to kick two babies (4 and 3 ) out on the street just to make someone elses opinion great. As far as atia feeling like she is competeing ...she isnt even sure what she means . I take time everyday to communicate with her and encourage her to be open with me . When asked why she didnt let me know why she felt that way her reply was she didnt know ..that she doesnt even know what she feels she competes for . I have no issue un her asking others questions and to express herself .I dont encourage her to keep things in and let them build . SO while this issue is new to me its something her and I need to dicuss more deeply with each other. As far as I am concerned you don't owe an explanation to anyone Next page