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	TSR : Web boards : Other Topics : "I'm not sure if this is safe..." 1 2 3 4 I'm not sure if this is safe... (35) This post is on the Other Topics web board. 27 May 09, 3:00 AM M_o_r_g US, 4 yrs His_little_one wrote: how dangerous is it for him to stick a whiskey bottle into my vagina? I'm thinking pretty dangerous especially since he wants to do it with the cap off. I would think not only would the whiskey get into my vagina but since the cap is off wouldn't this create suction upon taking it out? Also probably not a great idea to put glass in there. You already know the dangers, bottle breaking, or almost as bad the suction and it becoming stuck inside. Now explain that to the hospital. It sounds like your Master might want to do some research BEFORE trying new things. This type of "play" is 110% UNSAFE. The Gorean master desires more than a slave's submission, more than merely her body. A Gorean man is satisfied with nothing less than all of a slave. He will possess you, body and mind, heart and soul. Nothing less is acceptable. 27 May 09, 3:16 AM His_little_one 3 yrs Update: I did just have a discussion with him about leaving me alone. He said he'd always give me an out but that there'd better be a fire if I have broken myself out. I also talked to him about the whiskey bottle, still can't get him to budge on that. We're going to have to talk about it further when we have more time. It was a quick phone call while he was at work. He said if I'm so concerned about it being dirty I'd better clean it and peel the label myself before he comes over next. I'm still just terrified of it breaking however he think its thick enough glass to not be an issue. I trust his judgement and yes I realize I gave somewhat conflicting statements about our ability to communicate. We do have great communication, in fact, I had brought up the whole leaving me alone in a box alone thing in the midst of a scene so he explained to me this is why he wasn't willing to comfort me and quelch my fears or concerns. Its funny because this is actually THE healthiest relationship I've ever engaged in to be honest. I suppose I could've picked a better time than "in the moment". I'll have to admit he was apparently "just talking" to frighten me. I agree that "breathe play" and "knife play" can be considered crossing the line, in fact we engage in these activities as if they were everyday vanilla activities. I suppose you do have to examine things on a case by case basis. He's agreed to sit down with me, not in the middle of a scene and compromise with me on anything I don't consider safe. Thank you all for your wonderful points of view, I'm feeling better about this already! Edited 27 May 09, 3:24 AM by His_little_one 27 May 09, 4:00 AM 417-540-592 US(WI), 3 yrs Trust your gut feeling. If YOU feel that this is very unsafe then it should not be done. The fact the He brushes off your concern greatly alarms me. A responsible Top always listens to the bottoms fears with care and concern.... ...I once made the mistake of not listening to my gut feelings about a Dom that i was playing with. I ignored my feelings of alarm and ended up in the ER due to something that He pushed me to do (even after expressing my fears and using my safe word). A Dominant who pushes too much too fast without regard for your safety has another agenda, and that agenda. Personally, I would try talking with your Dominant about it again, and if He doesnt listen to you, then I would seriously consider looking for someone else(and I would let Him know that). Please dont get me wrong...Yes, I love submitting to my Master with all my heart and soul, but if I ever felt He were doing something that could risk serious injury or death, then I would do something to protect myself from letting that happen. ...Just because I am a sub, does not mean that I am a rug. Best of luck to you 27 May 09, 7:16 AM 333-528-841 CA, 3 yrs You really need to talk to your Master about the bottle. He is, I am sure,aware that the female body can pick up infections from things like that. That would nix any play for awhile. If he is that interested in glass, then take him to your local toy store and select something in tempered glass that is safe to play with. They are made with pyrex, safe to use and easy to clean. 333-528-841 27 May 09, 3:43 PM His_little_one 3 yrs Its not so much that hes interested in "glass" itself. Hes interested in using this specific glass bottle in particular, one which he always leaves at my place that keeps his whiskey, to punish me for submitting to another Dom. We have an open relationship, I didn't know it'd upset him. Now I know better. I'm fairly certain I can talk him out of it or at very least (and I prefer it not have to go this far) I can hide it from him before he comes over next. I'm puttin my foot down! Edited 27 May 09, 4:03 PM by His_little_one 28 May 09, 1:15 AM moebius_slave US(LA), 3 yrs His_little_one I did just have a discussion with him about leaving me alone. He said he'd always give me an out but that there'd better be a fire if I have broken myself out. what about choking/panic attack/loss of circulation/anything-else-life-threatening? His_little_one We have an open relationship, I didn't know it'd upset him. Now I know better. I'm fairly certain I can talk him out of it or at very least (and I prefer it not have to go this far) I can hide it from him before he comes over next. I'm puttin my foot down! if he is upset that you were with someone else, then its not an open relationship. my second husband ('nilla) wanted an open relationship...he did fine in telling every 'other woman' he/we were with that it was open and how wonderful it was...until i decided that i wanted to play as well. as far as hiding the whiskey bottle...i couldn't agree less. you shouldn't have to hide anything from your master. and i imagine it won't make it any easier, either you can hide the bottle and have him be pissed off because you are disobeying him, or you can set yourself a hard limit. no is no, and if he cannot respect that, well then maybe it is time to rethink your relationship. The devil came to me last night and asked what I wanted in exchange for my soul. I still can't believe I said pizza. Friggin' cravings. Edited 28 May 09, 1:19 AM by moebius_slave 29 May 09, 9:03 PM SlaveNika NL, 3 yrs Very good little one! No matter if it's unsafe or not, if you fear it and worry about your health i think it's worth to discuss this with your Master and put your foot down until you know more about it. In my opinion a good Master researches the risks before He tries something like this. If He has He might be able to show you what He found so He can convince you that it is nothing to be worried about. I think every Master wants a happy submissive slave and not one who is scared and worried about her own health. So time to talk! Good luck! ~ My Master introduced me into the world of slavery. A world i have always searched for, but i never knew where it was. Now my heart belongs to Him and His world forever and ever ~ Edited 29 May 09, 9:04 PM by SlaveNika 30 May 09, 2:59 AM 333-528-841 CA, 3 yrs OK. I'm confused!! You say you and your Master have been together for almost a year and you ar M/s. You also say you have an open relationship but did not realize submitting to another Dom would upset him? Maybe I have the wrong end of the stick, but this does not make sense to me. If you are M/s, and been with your Master for a year, how could you not know this and how could you submit to another without permission and discussion with your Master? This almost sounds like it is something you like to explore on weekends and are not overly serious about. If this is the case, you may want to let others know this from the start as there are those who take this seriously, as part of their daily life and genuinely are concerned for your well being. I apologize if I am wrong, wouldn't be the first time , so you may want to clarify things please. 333-528-841 30 May 09, 4:39 AM His_little_one 3 yrs I apologize for confusion. We've known each other, been having sex with each other, for almost a year. In that time we've been slowly progressing towards and hadn't actually committed to each other or a M/s relationship till AFTER I submitted to another dom. Up until this point we were simply, D/s. I didn't think it'd be such a big deal. I too am afraid for my safety. Luckily hes away for work until mid June so we still have a few weeks to talk about it before he gets home. He's going to call me in a few hours I'll have an update on how the compromise goes. He said I can't set limits anymore so its terribly difficult to get him to understand it from my point of view Update: FINALLY!!!!!!!!!! I got him to agree with me. He told me to do my research so I told him I did and explained this thread to him. He agreed to keep me safe when I told him we can't keep this relationship if he can't compromise. Thank you all. I can't believe it took him this long to care and that I had to threaten walking away to stop him but at least he agreed. Edited 30 May 09, 7:04 AM by His_little_one 30 May 09, 8:57 AM 333-528-841 CA, 3 yrs I am glad to hear you have had a discussion and that everything seems to be working out. I am still wary for you though, reading "he has agreed to keep me safe." No Master should "agree" to keep his sub/slave safe. That should be a given. A Master should not want to harm or break his possessions. You say you are new to M/s. Are you both new? Does your Master have the skills and experience to keep you safe? You may want to continue with your research and pick out one or two of the excellent books available to read together. Also, you should go to the WIKI and read about RACK and SSC. All the best to you His Little One. 333-528-841 Next page