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	TSR : Web boards : Other Topics : "I'm not sure if this is safe..." 1 2 3 4 I'm not sure if this is safe... (35) This post is on the Other Topics web board. Sun 24 May 09, 1:18 AM His_little_one 3 yrs Hello...I'm new to SD and new to M/s. I met my first master almost a year ago and he's been slowly showing me how to be his perfect slave. Up until recently things had been slowly progressing towards scarier and scarier situations for which I have no control over which I've happily complied with but now he wants to tie my hands behind my back, stuff my dirty panties in my mouth, put tape over my mouth and lock me in a box. As if this isn't unsafe enough in my opinion he talks of leaving me there for hours and leaving the house. Am I being stupid or can't we consider this beyond safe & sane? I wouldn't mind the box itself or being bound but gagged and locked and left can't something go wrong being gagged like that? What if I swallowed my panties? Is that possible in a panic? I've tried to talk to him about it but he brushes off my concerns. Up until recently hes always been safe and trustworthy and never given me cause for concern. Help! Edited Sun 24 May 09, 1:44 AM by His_little_one 24 May 09, 9:28 AM Father_Kane1 US(WA), 4 yrs Y! This life we all live can, in short order, can be summed up or described if you will in three words. Consensual. Trust. Responsibility. Take away one leg from a tripod and it will collaspe. The same is true in any relationship. Even if you were to consent and trust, leaving you unattended is an irresponsible act. For your 'master' to even suggest this is reason for you to perhaps question the future of your serving. 24 May 09, 5:02 PM 599-734-499 US(WI), 3 yrs His_little_one wrote: I'm not sure if this is safe... Hello...I'm new to SD and new to M/s. I met my first master almost a year ago and he's been slowly showing me how to be his perfect slave. Up until recently things had been slowly progressing towards scarier and scarier situations for which I have no control over which I've happily complied with but now he wants to tie my hands behind my back, stuff my dirty panties in my mouth, put tape over my mouth and lock me in a box. As if this isn't unsafe enough in my opinion he talks of leaving me there for hours and leaving the house. Am I being stupid or can't we consider this beyond safe & sane? I wouldn't mind the box itself or being bound but gagged and locked and left can't something go wrong being gagged like that? What if I swallowed my panties? Is that possible in a panic? I've tried to talk to him about it but he brushes off my concerns. Up until recently hes always been safe and trustworthy and never given me cause for concern. Help! i will abandon my normal reticence to condemn: This is not, i repeat, IS NOT SAFE. You could gag. You could have an attack of emesis (vomitting). You could aspirate the gag. (Never use loose gags.) And finally, NEVER RESTRAIN SOMEONE AND THEN LEAVE THEM UNATTENDED. Mistress Jessica's slave tom 25 May 09, 7:14 AM 333-528-841 CA, 3 yrs Definitely Not safe and I would have to question the sanity of anyone asking this and then brushing off your concerns. Do not second guess yourself on why a red flag popped up for you on this one! 333-528-841 26 May 09, 3:43 AM M_o_r_g US, 4 yrs His_little_one wrote: I'm not sure if this is safe... I must join this and agree, a Master should NEVER NEVER leave their slave bound and gagged alone. They should not even say they would. This could lead to all sorts of bad issues, the main one being DEATH. If this is a real plan on their part let your voice be heard, if they are going to go through with it, get out. Loose gags like panties soak up fluid from mouth and compress under pressure of the jaws. They become smaller in size and can slide into the throat, cutting off all air supply and a bad ending. The Gorean master desires more than a slave's submission, more than merely her body. A Gorean man is satisfied with nothing less than all of a slave. He will possess you, body and mind, heart and soul. Nothing less is acceptable. 26 May 09, 4:49 AM His_little_one 3 yrs Thank you all for your care and concern. I'm going to show him this thread and discuss things with him further. I'm sure he would never intentionally do anything to harm me. This is just poor judgement on his part. I feel stupid for asking but while we're on the subject how dangerous is it for him to stick a whiskey bottle into my vagina? I'm thinking pretty dangerous especially since he wants to do it with the cap off. I would think not only would the whiskey get into my vagina but since the cap is off wouldn't this create suction upon taking it out? Also probably not a great idea to put glass in there. I feel that in this lifestyle we're always straddeling a fine line and I'm really confused on how far is too far. Our play goes pretty deep as I really enjoy being frightened and I feel as though he may be reaching beyond safe because hes run out of ideas which arguably is still not a good excuse however we actually do have great comminucation and I know if we discuss this and hes sees its unsafe he won't go through with it. Thanks in advance for any advice you may have to offer Edited 26 May 09, 4:54 AM by His_little_one 26 May 09, 1:13 PM moebius_slave US(LA), 3 yrs i definitely agree with the others on here on being tied, gagged, and left unattended...BAD idea! as for the whiskey bottle....i would again say BAD idea...first off, as far as i know, the bottles are not tempered glass, one little weakness in the glass or pressure on the wrong spot and your va-jay-jay could be cut to ribbons...on top of that, how to explain such an injury at the emergency room, even if it is just a nick or sctratch!? stick with glass made for that specific reason, there are thousands of websites that sell them... http://www.glassfantasy.com/ or http://www.xxxglass.com/ are just a couple, just google it... secondly, i wouldn't want anything that is not what i consider clean stuck in me, the bottles have been handled by an unknown number of people and who knows where their hands have been! does your Master really want to wait until its been cleaned and the labels all removed to play with it. The devil came to me last night and asked what I wanted in exchange for my soul. I still can't believe I said pizza. Friggin' cravings. 26 May 09, 4:36 PM His_little_one 3 yrs Thank you Moebius for the reassurance on both situations. I agree about the bottle breaking and needing to be cleaned. I now know what I've got to do...TALK HIM OUT OF IT! Thank you all so much! 26 May 09, 5:49 PM moebius_slave US(LA), 3 yrs there are a couple of things that i was so totally uncomfortable with that Master would talk about during playtime...(albeit they were not things that would or could cause me harm), i discussed these things with Him afterwords and was reassured they were only fantasy, as long as they remain in fantasyland im perfectly fine with them. one thing i would encourage you to do is do is talk to your M about it...not during playtime...maybe its just something he is just fantasizing about? The devil came to me last night and asked what I wanted in exchange for my soul. I still can't believe I said pizza. Friggin' cravings. Edited 26 May 09, 5:50 PM by moebius_slave 26 May 09, 6:34 PM DaS_13 US, 4 yrs I have left my girl gagged and bound unattended. Say, she was on the bed, like that while I left the room for a while to go play on the computer. Sometimes it has been for training, she's begged me to gag and bind her and leave her alone, as it brings her to a great subspace and mental training. Other times it has been as a punishment. She has had many fantasies of being gagged and bound and locked in a box and I have to agree, they sound like a good idea and I am looking into making them a reality. Everyone can make it sound horrible, just like breath play is "horrible" and knife play is "horrible" and I am sure there are people out there that think one single hit with a whip is means for screaming abuse. Everyone is different. If it scares you and you do not like it, talk to your Master personally. If you are interested in it and afraid to admit that you are, or if you are interested yet scared, go slow like we have - gagged, bound, alone for a few minutes at a time. It was actually me that was the one who was worried at first about this training. She was the one who told me she'd be fine and begged me to do it, if I ever felt like it. I waited a few days and with much thinking, when the timing was right, I did do it and I loved it. Now, however, I do check on her. Sometimes without her knowing, depending on where she is and if she is blindfolded and what not. Just because your Master SAID he is going to "leave" doesn't mean he actually is. And if you have a fear of not being able to let him know something is wrong, since you have no movement, ask if he can give you a bell or something louder like a bullhorn. Just my little tips, probably will get flamed :P Oh well! Owner of Clover - Slave number: 465-186-919. 26 May 09, 9:49 PM SirSeven 3 yrs His_little_one wrote: I've tried to talk to him about it but he brushes off my concerns. Then a bit later... His_little_one wrote: Our play goes pretty deep as I really enjoy being frightened and I feel as though he may be reaching beyond safe because hes run out of ideas which arguably is still not a good excuse however we actually do have great comminucation and I know if we discuss this and hes sees its unsafe he won't go through with it. I'm a bit confused about these conflicting statements. First you say that you tried talking to your Master but that he brushes off your concerns. Then you state that you have great communication. Having someone brush off your concerns doesn't sound like great communication to me. So which is it? You also state that you like to be frightened. Is it possible that he is only trying to mess with your mind by telling you he's going to do these scary things? Do you think he will actually DO these things he talks about? If he does intend to proceed with something that you are not comfortable with then, in my opinion, it indicates there may be other problems with the relationship. Mainly, lack of communication and/or lack of respect for your limits. Should your Master choose to ignore your limits, then you may want to have a frank discussion with him about the future of the relationship. DaS_13 wrote: Just because your Master SAID he is going to "leave" doesn't mean he actually is. I think the argument DaS_13 makes is sound. Just because someone says they are going to do something doesn't mean they actually will do it. Hopefully you have discussed and agreed upon limits and your Master will respect those limits. Should your Master choose to ignore your limits, then, once again, it may be time for that frank discussion. Sir Seven Next page