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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "DISRESPECT.." 1 2 DISRESPECT.. (17) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 4 Jul 09, 3:50 AM 333-528-841 CA, 3 yrs tigermonkey wrote: Ou_pais wrote: As for whether He can disrespect me . . . well, respect is a privilege for me, not a right. Respect is a privilege for you, not a right? Maybe I'm a little less strict them some of the other Dom/Master in here but how is respect a privilege and not a right? Also as for respect vs humiliation, they are two completely different things. Humiliation is a choice one makes in this lifestyle and the other is something that has to exist for the relationship to work. If the Dom/Master does not respect the person who gives them the control how can it work, and vice versa. I would think it depends on the dynamic each couple has on what is a privilege and what is a right. It is for no one else to say what is right or wrong in how anyone else conducts their relationship. Ou_pais and her Master are in a TPE/IE relationship in which Ou_pais is a slave. I am sure Ou_pais gave up all rights beyond the right to leave (which she would never be able or want to do, being IE). All of this is explained in the essays Tanos has on IE. I apologize to all for hijacking this thread. It was not my intention. 333-528-841 Edited 4 Jul 09, 3:52 AM by 333-528-841 12 Jul 09, 8:53 AM Cor_Cordis 2 yrs MasterRevolver wrote: Even if your Master is a liar, and a cheat, and a bastard - it is not your place to EVER disrespect your master. You can consider your legal right to be uncollared if you're displeased with your Master's behavior, but never outright disrespect. That's just not your place. I must refrain from telling you to play in traffic. If my Master is a liar, and a cheat, and a bastard, I will tell him so because the respect should be mutual, even if a Master's respect is different and silent in comparison to a slave's. And then I will take the appropriate action because as a slave, I consider it a duty not to be a brainless lump on a log and sit there going 'lol k Master'. If my Master is a liar, then he's not really dominant, is he? Because if he was, he would have the confidence to tell his slave the truth. If my Master is a cheat, then he's a straight up asshole who I will gladly leave. I reserve that right, so stfu. And if he's a bastard, then I'll... help him find his father. Too generic of a term for any smartass remarks. People that think they deserve respect just because they're dominant are fail. I don't think I deserve this selflessness. Find your way into my heart. 27 Aug 09, 10:05 PM 657-479-898 US(KY), 2 yrs Y! Cor_Cordis wrote: MasterRevolver wrote: Even if your Master is a liar, and a cheat, and a bastard - it is not your place to EVER disrespect your master. You can consider your legal right to be uncollared if you're displeased with your Master's behavior, but never outright disrespect. That's just not your place. I must refrain from telling you to play in traffic. If my Master is a liar, and a cheat, and a bastard, I will tell him so because the respect should be mutual, even if a Master's respect is different and silent in comparison to a slave's. And then I will take the appropriate action because as a slave, I consider it a duty not to be a brainless lump on a log and sit there going 'lol k Master'. If my Master is a liar, then he's not really dominant, is he? Because if he was, he would have the confidence to tell his slave the truth. If my Master is a cheat, then he's a straight up asshole who I will gladly leave. I reserve that right, so stfu. And if he's a bastard, then I'll... help him find his father. Too generic of a term for any smartass remarks. People that think they deserve respect just because they're dominant are fail. nicely said Cor_Cordis but disrespecting your Master is not wise on your part for a Master's wrath is like a womens scorn. i may be bloody, battered, and bruised but still i love you Edited 28 Sep 10, 6:20 PM by 657-479-898 29 Aug 09, 8:46 AM GypsieCowboy US(NM), 2 yrs Y! 657-479-898 wrote: Cor_Cordis wrote: MasterRevolver wrote: Even if your Master is a liar, and a cheat, and a bastard - it is not your place to EVER disrespect your master. You can consider your legal right to be uncollared if you're displeased with your Master's behavior, but never outright disrespect. That's just not your place. I must refrain from telling you to play in traffic. If my Master is a liar, and a cheat, and a bastard, I will tell him so because the respect should be mutual, even if a Master's respect is different and silent in comparison to a slave's. And then I will take the appropriate action because as a slave, I consider it a duty not to be a brainless lump on a log and sit there going 'lol k Master'. If my Master is a liar, then he's not really dominant, is he? Because if he was, he would have the confidence to tell his slave the truth. If my Master is a cheat, then he's a straight up asshole who I will gladly leave. I reserve that right, so stfu. And if he's a bastard, then I'll... help him find his father. Too generic of a term for any smartass remarks. People that think they deserve respect just because they're dominant are fail. nicely said Cor_Cordis REspect is something earned. Not once upon a time but continually and consistently. No dom is respected because he or she is Master or Mistress. Rather he or she is Master or Mistress because she/he is respected. If respect is lost, then it is no longer there and the relationship's gestalt has changed and must continue to change. Yet the institution of Master/Slave is also worthy of respect. Both the sub and the dom must always respect the institution. Which means that even if a little loses respect for her Daddy, she must handle it in a way that supports respect for the relationship and the rules and traditions. If I lose the respect of my woman, she needs to tell me and then to offer to either leave or to work with me to change the rules to reflect the new dynamics; if I find that my sub can no longer be worthy of my respect I must tell her so and either she can leave or we can change our rules to reflect the new dynamics. But I fully support any slave's right to lose respect for her Master and to leave him after first telling him why she is leaving. I would consider that the last respectful thing she owes him. I would spread the cloths under your feet: I, being poor, have only My dreams; I have spread My dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on My dreams. (Yeats) I worship you with punishments, exalt you by training you. Seek perfection? Look for yourSelf in My eyes. GypsieCowboy 10 Sep 09, 3:28 PM 825-768-571 US, 4 yrs as i see it, and with my Master in mind {always Master } it is so important to be honest at all times, have open communication when allowed , set by Master .with that being said , of course Master is the final word in any converstaion , or thought , or event that may make you uncomfortable . it is how it should be , trust Master to know you , and what You need it is a diservice as well to be anything but honest with a Master . 10 Sep 09, 3:31 PM 825-768-571 US, 4 yrs true beyond words , if a Master is a cheat He very well be hiding under the guise of "dont question " and the point is , to not question because there is mutal trust and respect ... 10 Sep 09, 7:09 PM 186-306-559 US(NC), 2 yrs To my Master, these things would be considered disrespectful: -Willful disobedience -Dishonesty -Being manipulative That being said, my Master makes it very easy for me to be honest with Him. He does not judge me or punish me if I am not eager for something that He wants for me. He gently helps to walk me through it. Keeping a respectful tone is also important. I believe that much, however, depends on the couple involved. A good Master will know His slave well enough to know where her disrespect is coming from. It may not be coming from disrespect, but from another place. At times, the little girl in me comes out and she can be a bit of a brat. Master loves her and deals with her...and knows that she is an important part of who I am as a woman and as a slave. He knows that sometimes she NEEDS to come out...and He has His ways of bringing her out. Can a Master disrespect His slave? Yes. A good Master will treat His slave like a treasured piece of property. All that He does, though for His own satisfaction...is also done with her well being in mind. Any Master who would willfully damage His slave physically, psychologically or emotionally is being disrespectful of His slave and probably should not be a Master.