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	TSR : Web boards : Internal Enslavement : "Unwanted IE" 1 2 3 Unwanted IE (23) This post is on the Internal Enslavement web board. 26 May 09, 1:31 PM 779-061-353 US(MO), 4 yrs Y! My Master wished for me to ask what the circumstances were that made you two go your seperate ways? As it might have some bearing on why He isn't willing to help you get over your IE. written kneeling at His feet, leash frimly in place Come check out this girl's writings http://www.freewebs.com/bardic/ Master Silver Wolf approves all this grl's posts they MUST pass his approval before posting 26 May 09, 6:45 PM symphony 5 yrs I am not absolutely sure that He would not help me if either of us were quite sure of the way forward. We have parted amicably but the M/s match was not good and we did suffer quite alot during the years that we tried so hard to achieve having both a family business, an M/s relationship, a vanilla blended family etc. Personally, I feel that we invested far too much in the other parts of our relationship and not enough in the M/s. I feel perhaps currently this is more a situation of not knowing for sure how to be helpful and not really taking the time, which was a symptom of why our relationship failed originally. I seem to be making my way forward using the methods agreed upon here, keeping away from Him, working hard and making plans for the future on my own. I am deeply disappointed in the way things have gone but can see without doubt this is all for the best. 27 May 09, 10:34 PM symphony 5 yrs I want to say thank you to everyone who has supported me and helped through this painful time. It looks as though the entire period of my life as a slave is simply going to die away, just another memory to smile at when I am a very old lady. The serenity and grace I could not find in my service has wrapped itself around me now, cloaking me while we say goodbye and put to rest what was once the most beautiful relationship I ever witnessed. I am more at ease each day. I suppose IE does slip away as the bloodflow from its source gradually disappears from existence. So sad and all so unnecessary. This was a long haul flight, not a hop to the Greek Islands. I think we got off the plane too early myself. But who I am to judge, i am "only a slave". 27 May 09, 10:45 PM Master_SL CA, 5 yrs slave_tsina wrote: I want to say thank you to everyone who has supported me and helped through this painful time. It looks as though the entire period of my life as a slave is simply going to die away, just another memory to smile at when I am a very old lady. The serenity and grace I could not find in my service has wrapped itself around me now, cloaking me while we say goodbye and put to rest what was once the most beautiful relationship I ever witnessed. I am more at ease each day. I suppose IE does slip away as the bloodflow from its source gradually disappears from existence. So sad and all so unnecessary. This was a long haul flight, not a hop to the Greek Islands. I think we got off the plane too early myself. But who I am to judge, i am "only a slave". slave_tsina I feel empathy for your situation. I realize it is difficult to put it lightly but it will overtime become easier. It will help if you can find something to preoccupy you heavily during the next little while. It may help in passing some time and allow your mind to relax and adjust to your new situation. Just dont feel that this is the end of the road...Good luck Regards, Master_SL 28 May 09, 7:08 PM symphony 5 yrs Thank you 30 May 09, 7:24 AM Malkinius US(IL), 5 yrs Greetings tsina.... I want to make a couple of comments on the previous posts of this thread. The comment that this will fade in time is true. How much time it will take depends on how much the enslavement is reinforced over time coupled with how strong it was at the time you and your former Owner parted. The term for this I use is Dwell Time. Dwell Time can be reduced by either counter-reinforcement or reinforcement of the same parts of you where the enslavement is located towards a different target. Think of it as reprogramming either the enslavement or the target of the enslavement. I will also note that your focusing on the pleasurable aspects of your enslavement count as a reinforcement. The further they get from the actual pleasurable activities and reinforcements from your former Owner the less force they will have to increase the Dwell time. slave_tsina wrote: As much as I do not enjoy public discussions about personal matters, this is an expert website concerning specific issues that are relevant to me. I am slave. As an entity. This developed within a relationship and remains with me outside it. Part of me loves that fact. It reinforces what I knew in my heart. That some creatures are slave. A species if you will. Yes, my actual heartfelt desire is to return to the originating service. Only He and I were witness to the inception of the IE. But because it remains with me without Him, I am exploring more each day, the individuality of this process. Can it be adapted? Are there clever and experienced slave owners/slaves who have come across this before and used the IE, once individual to one Owner, to cultivate an unwanted slave into active service where they are wanted? Yes, it can be adapted. There are two ways it can be done. The main thing, as I said above, is to change the target or focus of the enslavement. This can be towards a new Owner or towards some group or cause or even towards something like a hobby. If your main focus is somewhere, your IE feelings will focus on that and change its target. Someone who has some skill with enslavement can take what is there and reorient the IE feelings towards them. How well this can happen depends on two main things. First is their abilities and knowledge and second on how much you want it to happen. In other words, both of you have to work at it. If only one person does, it will change, but not as well or as strongly as if both of you want the same thing. And to answer your next question, yes, I have seen it and worked with it as well as to relax the enslavement over time where I had a slave who was going to go from me to a new owner. Having not attempted to serve anyone else through the lack of desire to, I am unaware if this is possible. It is very possible. Someone who is meant for consensual slavery can and usually does end up serving more than one before she finally settles with one Owner. This is very common. The exception to this is people who were married couples before they became Master and slave. If you are serving primarily from love for an individual, then no, it will be possible to serve someone else but it will be much harder to to do so. I would appreciate this view from slave owners and slaves who might have some experience of this matter. Private messaging is also welcomed. Thank you in advance for your assistance. If you want some suggestions on how to either decrease the Dwell Time or to stabilize the feelings of enslavement while looking for a new owner, contact me and I will see what I can do to help you based on your situation and what you want to do. I will note that all slaves are different enough that no one method and set of procedures works with all of them. A core set with modifications on the other hand.....<grins> This was a very good question. Be well.... Malkinius 1 Jun 09, 9:19 PM winds_of_passion US(SD), 3 yrs slave_tsina wrote: Unwanted IE I have been dealing with this alone now for nearly 5 months and am just not able to understand how to deal with it. I also want to be very careful not to say anything that might be seen as disrespectful to my former owner. That being said, here is my problem. Our relationship dissolved in Jan 2009 and I left my fulltime 24/7 service in Feb. During the initial hurt and upset of it all, most of my focus was on relocating, employment etc. Now that the dust has settled and I am calm, rational and dealing successfully with the grief of the loss of it all, I find that I am left with an unwanted IE connected to Him. I was not sure it was totally specific to Him, but have checked and tested this and yes, I still feel Internally Enslaved to my former owner. And embarrassingly enough, now I am beginning to beg Him for considering a restart of my slavery to Him even though I know it did not work and that He no longer wants me and if I am honest, I should not want Him. In the "real" world, reason tells me to forget it all and move on. Tell me this, how do you rid yourself of Internal Enslavement for a former owner? I did not ask for the IE to develop, it started on its own. I was not in control of it. So how do I control its demise? I thank you for your responses in advance. the former slave tsina Could it possibly be that your past relationship is seen by you now as being better than not having a relationship at all? Even if it was not satisfactory to you and the Master, maybe it did in fact satisfy some of your needs. And knowing this, you might view it as better than having no relationship at all in the present time. This was just my thoughts here, I wish you luck in finding what you truely need in your life. 2 Jun 09, 6:34 AM symphony 5 yrs Quite right as a question. Of course I wish to return to the familiar but as much as it was not working for Him, it was also not working for me. A content slave would not seek to leave and to be clear without being disrespectful to Him, it was my choice to leave the service, not His. I have changed so much, grown so much and repaired so much of the damage done at the time that there is a part of me that would like a second bite of the cherry. But I have come to see this as more of a rose coloured glasses point of view. It didn't work. Just because I have changed doesn't mean it can work now. I am just currently working on accepting this. I am taking the advice given and channelling all my energy into my becoming better property to own. I am still unsure as to whether I could ever serve another. I think what our learned friend said before about Dwell Time is very insightful and I really do like that term. It is a perfect description. Ilyana Vanzant calls it "meantime". As in the meantime.... I just hate the thought of not having my slavehood in my future. I don't want to lose it and even the thought of kneeling in front of another person makes me queasy. 2 Jun 09, 7:36 AM Malkinius US(IL), 5 yrs Greetings tsina.... The term "Dwell Time" is one I 'borrowed' from audio and musical terminology. If you strike a single piano key you hear the note and then it fades off. That attack and decay (to use the other audio terms) is combined called the 'dwell time' of the note. It goes up....stays a bit...then goes down and the rate of decent drops more rapidly over time. Other than that....hang in here and remember that if you want to be a slave you can be. You just can not always be a slave to a specific individual. Be well.... Malkinius 2 Jun 09, 5:10 PM symphony 5 yrs I appreciate all that you have offered. thank you Next page