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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "depression" 1 2 3 4 depression (36) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 13 Oct 09, 6:12 PM EligibleOwner UK, 7 yrs MissMorrigan wrote: When I do go through a period it's usually expressed through a poor sleeping pattern, disinterest in food and general retreat from people. It's not often I feel depressed and it's usually the result of a major change in my life whether that be job or illness-related. The major indicator for me is when I start losing concentration and become very forgetful. What an excellent description of depression, MissM. I feel like this sometimes - I'm less able to sleep, eat at odd times and less well than usual, and start missing appointments. Usually for me, it's triggered by too much work, which begins to create a sort of constant burdened feeling. 14 Oct 09, 8:10 PM SirJames1959 UK, 2 yrs Y! The one thing I have been advised about depression (NOT bipolar disorder) is get some exercise, it helps. The exertion helps your body shift toxins Slave 4187 belongs to me, I am totally responsible for her well-being 27 Oct 09, 2:35 AM De_Luxe UK, 4 yrs I had a bout of it once during severe stress and went to the doctors. Instead of looking at it as me feeling ill and waiting to get better I made it into a 'thing' pestering me and trying to wreck my life. As a 'thing' with a shape and form (I pictured it as an ugly black vulture), I had something to fight and beat. I kept going to work for company and talked to friends and walked my dog a lot. So that's my advice if its needed, seek medical help, vow to win, believe you will win and hang onto that until you do win. 27 Oct 09, 10:43 PM GerardVanDam NL, 4 yrs thegildedlili wrote: ...i agree with what most people have said in regard to depression being an actual illness or disease, and i think people often mistake "the blues" or "feeling down" with actual clinical depresssion, when they are very different things... I think thegildedlili put this right. I have to add: Recently I was diagnosed with dysthymy. Explained as a mild form of ever present mild depression. 1986, february, one of my girls left me. After two weeks I found myself sitting on a couch, not even being able to do normal everyday tasks like shopping. At that time I lived as part of a threesome: I, my other girl and a man I had chosen to help me katalyse my relationships with my girls. My other girl was too busy with him to see that I was in deep trouble. No wonder as I did not know it myself. A few months later she left me too. So after having lived for a long time a life many men do not even dare to dream of (two relationships with two nymphomaniac girls) I suddenly was alone. At that time I did not know I was in a real depression There were no psychiatrists who know what to do with someone in my position. About ten years later I read about the serious illness called depression. It is not possible to fully recover from a real depression. You can try to live with it, but that is all. It is not impossible to become happy again, but you will never be the same person you were before. I don't think it is useful to tell all about what happened to me here. (If you want to know more, feel free to ask) But: "feeling depressed" can gradually become "suffering from depression". In my case it took only a few weeks, and yet I did not notice. It just happened. This is one of the dangers of a real depression. It took me a full five years to realize that I needed help. So if anyone reading this thinks he/she is in danger: Do what is necessary (probably seeing a med) Don't wait until your mind gets numb. When your mind is numb you may lose your life English is not my first language. Please be aware that for many here it is difficult to express their feelings. If I make mistakes, just tell me. 28 Oct 09, 1:20 AM 139-715-032 US(MA), 6 yrs Raven already mentioned I have clinical depression. I just want to say that it is an entirely different thing than feeling miserable about my life. If I'm feeling miserable about my life, and my circumstances get worse, I feel worse. If things improve a little, I'll feel a little better. The feelings are a response to my environment. If I'm depressed and my circumstances improve, I don't feel any better. If things get worse, I don't feel much worse. In fact, when I was depressed, it was almost easier when my life sucked, because then my feelings made sense. Before I understood the depression, I'd try like crazy to figure out what was wrong. I'd go through all these things in my life, and things in my head. But no amount of fixing things had any effect. Then, despite my severe objections, Raven sent me to a psychiatrist who gave me medication. Within a month, something in my head changed. Things that for years had been ineffective at improving my mood, suddenly worked. The pills don't make me happy - they fix whatever was broken that had been preventing me from making myself happy. I take Wellbutrin. Prozac and all the SSRIs don't generally do anything for my mood, but they give me crazy dreams and kill my libido. The doctor said my problem is dopamine, not serotonin. (Which is really interesting, because back when I was a wild and crazy kid doing a lot of drugs, I had noticed that Ecstasy had no effect on me. Apparently that is a dopamine thing.) Another interesting brain chemistry thing - There was a short period where I was depressed for a real external reason. I experimented with a low dose of an SSRI, and it worked very well during that time. Once I got my life back in order, it no longer had much of an effect on me. I assume that is because I don't actually have a real problem with my seratonin. -- Joshua Raven's Boy, Joshua, is a wholly owned subsidiary of Raven Kaldera. You may contact Joshua directly with any questions or comments at josh@cauldronfarm.com, or contact Raven at cauldronfarm@hotmail.com. 28 Oct 09, 2:46 AM 741-498-880 4 yrs I started this because i know a lot of people DO suffer from depression.. (PTSD and anxiety are my issues, rather than depression, but this is something that comes up a lot) Depression doesn't care which side of the coin you identify as, but its a real-life issue that many couples have to deal with in some fashion... So, thanks to all who were willing to openly discuss and talk about this and hopefully, people who read this thread will walk away having learned something that can help them or someone they care about. -- emma 28 Oct 09, 10:26 PM 650-736-585 GR, 2 yrs @Joshua: A question, a bit personal, if I may? If I'm crossing any line of courtesy, I apologise in advance. Would you say that being a slave/sub under the commands of a strong Master, helped your depression issues by having someone lining things in your life; not allowing you to loss tracks? I guess, what I'm trying to say is: Could it be that, for people with serious depression problems, which may go out of hand, it's almost a salvation to have a Master to keep them in order?... Just curious; the question popped in my mind while reading your last post. Greetings and thanks in advance. • I humbly ask for your tolerance and forgiveness to my ignorance. 30 Oct 09, 7:13 PM 139-715-032 US(MA), 6 yrs @650-736-585: I think good supervision and guidance are valuable for anyone in a situation where they can't trust their own judgment, emotions, or self-discipline to lead them to the right decisions. I know that when I get all worked up, my judgment is bad, and I'm seeing things through a thick haze of negative emotion. So, yes, it is really beneficial to me to have someone to guide me, especially someone with the strength and authority to make sure I do the right thing. Not all masters are interested in that job, but the ones who are can be really great for a submissive if they have a good understanding of the submissive's problems. If they don't understand the problem, or don't know effective solutions for dealing with the problem, then it might end up with both the master and the submissive feeling like a total failure. I would never take my medication consistently without my master ordering me to. I used to decide every few months that I was "all better" and didn't need the stupid pills anymore. Wrong. The whole thing has been a powerful lesson in humility for me, which was made so much easier by being in the context of a Master/slave relationship. I felt a lot of shame over not being "strong enough" to handle this problem on my own. The M/s relationship was a very safe place to come to terms with the feelings of helplessness, weakness, and powerlessness that having to rely on psychiatric medication brought up for me. -- Joshua Raven's Boy, Joshua, is a wholly owned subsidiary of Raven Kaldera. You may contact Joshua directly with any questions or comments at josh@cauldronfarm.com, or contact Raven at cauldronfarm@hotmail.com. 31 Oct 09, 6:01 PM 650-736-585 GR, 2 yrs @Joshua: Many-many thanks for your info. Indeed, not all Masters are good for the job. I'm happy to see though that you're in good hands. My wishes for the best. • I humbly ask for your tolerance and forgiveness to my ignorance. 20 Feb 10, 1:47 AM 703-532-775 US(LA), 2 yrs I have dealt with severe depression most of my life. I take Celexa for it. In fact it recently had to be upped. My Sir can tell when I have not had the AD for several days. He says I get a certain way. He is most likely right. I am in therapy to help with dealing with it. I think sometimes it takes both medicine and therapy to deal with depression. Next page