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	TSR : Web boards : M/s and D/s : "Slave working too hard?" 1 2 Slave working too hard? (15) Tue 21 Apr 09, 8:43 PM Sklavos_mou_Kyriah CY, 21 mths By way of explanation I've reproduced an entry from my blog below. Yesterday I cleaned the house. Not the major monthly one, just the in-between “maintenance” clean-up; a bit of dusting and vacuuming and wiping down the work surfaces. I also did a double ironing, a dark wash and a light one. It all kept me going for a large part of the day. My Lady sat in the living room while I worked. I plied her with coffee and sandwiches at the appropriate times as usual. I observed all the correct protocols, I remembered to genuflect in her presence yet I was still admonished, - for working too hard. I am a slave. What I find hard to reconcile is, I am a slave that works too hard? I know where My Lady is coming from. She doesn't want her slave exhausted. I can understand that. But a slave by definition has to work for Mistress surely? It is so hard for a slave to moderate the pace. Now the question I have is aimed primarily at Dom/Master/Mistress/Owners, but that does not preclude slaves/subs from joining in. The question is, "Do others out there have the problem of a slave/sub working/trying too hard? How do they deal with it?" To be a true slave is to be truly free Slave/Sklavos 21 Apr 09, 9:04 PM DaddySirs_princess US(CA), 16 mths Interesting question. I think to offset the "working too hard" bit, maybe have certain times to do certain things. Such as, "you have until x:xx (a time) to iron, vacuum. (Or the like.)" The previous is more lax, I think. Or, "you must start ironing at this time and the remaining time is yours until your next "scheduled chore, save for serving me breakfast/lunch/dinner (or supper, whichever it is called over there). Until such a time, you may do these activities, (read/surf the web/whichever)." Of course I don't know how it is in your household, but it would work for me. I generally like a more structured lifestyle, so having a set time to start a chore, or anything, really, is more helpful. Ohai. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU_rTX23V7Q Not because of who i am, But because of what You've done. Not because of what i've done, But because of who You are. And You've told me who i am. i am Yours, i am Yours. 21 Apr 09, 9:13 PM blue_girl 11 mths 315-076-759 wrote: Slave working too hard? The question is, "Do others out there have the problem of a slave/sub working/trying too hard? How do they deal with it?" LOL, 315: my Owner is just the opposite. He commented the other day that He just didn't "get" those D/O/Ms who locked their slaves up in a cage or in chains all day--He has work for me to do! Seriously, though, one of His expectations is that i'm never idle or lazy: everything i do must have a purpose. This doesn't preclude posting on the boards in between completing other tasks (it gives me a community of other slaves with whom to interact and learn and share experiences) or even taking an occasional nap (with permission, and so that i feel rested and ready to serve when He needs me). He takes the term 'slave' quite literally, though, i'm afraid. my entire purpose is serving and pleasing Him, and He keeps careful track of how my time is spent and what i've accomplished. Speaking of which--it's past time i walked His dog, so i'm off...! ~blue~ "I was being called to surrender the very citadel of my self. I was completely in the dark. I did not really know what repentance was or what I was required to repent of. It was indeed the turning point of my life." --Bede Griffiths 21 Apr 09, 9:26 PM SirSeven US(FL), 11 mths 315-076-759 wrote: Slave working too hard? The question is, "Do others out there have the problem of a slave/sub working/trying too hard? How do they deal with it?" My girl has a set schedule; dinner ready at 7:00PM, be showered, groomed, and ready for bed at 10:00PM, and so on. She does have many other household duties that must be attended to but I allow her the flexibility to manage these tasks on her own. She knows that I do not like it when she exhausts herself so she's pretty good about not doing so. Sometimes when I see that she has a lot on her plate, is sick, tired, whatever, I will relax some of the other tasks to give her a break. However, whenever I do this, she becomes anxious and fidgets, saying she would rather be working to take care of me. It's a sweet and commendable trait, but sometimes I do order her to stop for a rest. Sir Seven Edited 30 Jun 09, 2:25 PM by SirSeven 21 Apr 09, 9:41 PM SeanT70 UK, 7 yrs 315-076-759 wrote: Slave working too hard? By way of explanation I've reproduced an entry from my blog below. Yesterday I cleaned the house. Not the major monthly one, just the in-between “maintenance” clean-up; a bit of dusting and vacuuming and wiping down the work surfaces. I also did a double ironing, a dark wash and a light one. It all kept me going for a large part of the day. My Lady sat in the living room while I worked. I plied her with coffee and sandwiches at the appropriate times as usual. I observed all the correct protocols, I remembered to genuflect in her presence yet I was still admonished, - for working too hard. I am a slave. What I find hard to reconcile is, I am a slave that works too hard? No, you're a slave that works too hard when your mistress tell you you are; see the difference? If LM doesn't pull you up, carry on! Look at it this way; to you, you see that because you're a slave, you should work yourself into the floor and serve LM properly at all times. That's very admirable, and I dare say you do a good job, but does it occur to you that 'she' might just want you to slow it down and catch your breath - even talk to her for five minutes, instead of filling her up with coffee?! What I'm saying 'is' what you expect she expects, may not actually be what she wants all the time, so in your working hard, you might need to 'still work hard, but take longer doing it; and talk to LM about why you're being pulled up, in a respectful manner of course. How else will you find out what you're doing to her disliking? ...But a slave by definition has to work for Mistress surely? No, you'll be/do whatever your mistress wants you to be/do; you're her slave, remember? It is so hard for a slave to moderate the pace. This is the trap you've tripped and fell into; you're letting yourself believe you're setting the pace; in fact LM is by pulling you up and admonishing you. It doesn't matter what you're admonished 'for', the fact that you were should be enough. Now, slave as I am (given that you pointed the question at M-types, as you said), when I work hard, I push myself like a maniac, because if I don't, and rest while I'm doing something or a list of things, my (medically challenged) body won't let me finish the stupid things; resting very little until I've done the lot is the only choice I have, but in saying that, for everything that I do in the course of my day, Phay is always catered for the best way I know how. Sean. Lovingly Owned by ~Miss Phay~ 22 Apr 09, 3:01 AM slave_emma US(OK), 3 yrs I have this problem. I tend to get in trouble for doing to much work. I tend to stress about if everything gets done in a given day, to the point of which I will go nonstop until everything is just perfect. My Master isn't always home when I do the cleaning, so sometimes He isn't able to stop me before I over do it. I think that part of the reason why I try to keep the house as clean as possible is because our home reflects my Master and I don't want to bring shame to His household. My Master and I have tried different methods to prevent exhaustion with the household chores. The most recent of which was creating a rough guideline of what chores will be done on which day. That way not all of the chores fall to one day. This has actually helped me because each chore has it's own place. Best wishes, slave emma Master Howard's little girl 22 Apr 09, 11:45 AM Mistressofmypretty UK, 3 yrs Y! 315-076-759 wrote: Slave working too hard? I know where My Lady is coming from. She doesn't want her slave exhausted. I can understand that. But a slave by definition has to work for Mistress surely? It is so hard for a slave to moderate the pace. Now the question I have is aimed primarily at Dom/Master/Mistress/Owners, but that does not preclude slaves/subs from joining in. The question is, "Do others out there have the problem of a slave/sub working/trying too hard? How do they deal with it?" Hello Is it possible that She saw that you were exhausted to a point that became detrimental to your health (or ability to perform alternative duties), but that you didn't notice this yourself as you were so engrossed in completing your tasks? Or that you didn't want to let her down? my pretty is My submissive male with a small number of routines and tasks. Not often, but occasionally, I have taken his duties and performed them Myself, or I have allowed him out of routine or ritual, if he has had a partiularly long day, is under the weather, or has some degree of work stress. Some times you can be so deeply engrossed in getting things done, you just can't see the bigger picture. It is certainly something for both my pretty and I to work on. I have a responsibility to look after him as my submissive - but stressful as it may be to to him, he has a duty to tell me if he's struggling. All the best Mistress of my pretty. 22 Apr 09, 12:31 PM 693-911-949 US(VA), 11 mths When i read this my thoughts fell in line with 000. It isn't your pace to set, it's your Mistress' pace to set for you I used to struggle with this myself. Occasionally i catch it creeping back in! As a slave my purpose is to please and be obedient to my Master. That means that if he wants me doing nothing other than kneeling next to him while he is working on the computer, then that is what i should be doing... not the dishes, or the laundry or the numerous other things i could be doing. The trick for me was learning how to be able to simply... sit. i think you need to focus not on what you think you need to be doing for her, or what you think she wants you to be doing, or even what you think a slave ought to be doing. Remember instead that the only thing a slave is supposed to do is whatever their M wants them to be doing at any given moment. (lol, i know, i knoooow that can be a hard one!) Owned and operated by Ph0enixFire ~By making me nothing, He makes me everything. 22 Apr 09, 9:18 PM Sklavos_mou_Kyriah CY, 21 mths Thank you all for your responses. It seems I am not alone. All of you had valid points. The main thing I've picked up here is that it is easy for a slave to get its head round the idea of working and serving but when Master/Mistress just wants slave to sit around like a pet it is rather more difficult. I find it necessary to work to some sort of schedule and as I am getting rather long in the tooth at 69, my body can't hold the pace like it used to so I try to get as much done as I can while I can. Which I suppose is rather self-defeating. I guess I'll have to listen to My Lady a little more closely and try to fulfill her idea of what a slave should be rather than the slave's concept. Right now My Lady wants her cocoa making. Time to put the kettle on.... To be a true slave is to be truly free Slave/Sklavos 24 Apr 09, 9:16 AM Ms_Valentine UK, 22 mths It is intriguing listening to and reading about the way ther people do things. I always think my life with p is just way too normal. What I mean is that when I hear things like the idea of Mistresses just wanting slaves ( or subs in my case) to sit around like pets, I don't feel much sense of connection. Equally, I am highly unlikely to be a Mistress who sits around and watches while her sub does all the work. My life with p is based on my having complete control but I am a very active person and we do lots of things together, like housework, DIY ( more than I can possibly have imagined in the two years since we took on our new house) and when we are relaxing, he is normally relaxing with me as I just want him close to me, aware he cannot stray or do anything without my permission but equally just sitting normally watching TV, reading, talking etc. I know I am not one for making him sit on the floor etc but that is because although he is extremely fit and trim for 51, I do not want him getting aches and pains which are not intended or necessary. If I want him to hurt, I will take him to the playroom and make sure he feels pain I will enjoy delivering. So does he work too hard. No, he works damn hard, exceptionally hard sometimes but often with me right beside him. I don't feel comfortable watching him work so I get stuck in to and we work as a team. He always works harder than I do but I feel good for doing my bit. I always tell him when it is time to stop and take a break, if I think he is working too hard. He knows that the normal life we lead having a social life, cinema, theatre, shows, comedy, friends and bdsm events are very important and we must have energy for them as a team. My sub works very hard at home and very hard at work where he is the MD of his company. He is expected by me to know when he must ease up and rest. He knows I am happy for him to have rest and relaxation time with me. I guess because we are a couple in a romantic sense as well as a D/s couple, I see this as just the way we dovetail our bdsm with our everyday life. Edited 24 Apr 09, 2:07 PM by Ms_Valentine 24 Apr 09, 1:28 PM SeanT70 UK, 7 yrs Ms_Valentine wrote: My life with p is based on my having complete control but I am a very active person and we do lots of things together, like housework, DIY ( more than I can possibly have imagined in the two years since we took on our new house) and when we are relaxing, he is normally relaxing with me as I just want him close to me, aware he cannot stray or do anything without my permission but equally just sitting normally watching TV, reading, talking etc. I know I am not one for making him sit on the floor etc but that is because although he is extremely for and trim for 51, I do not want him getting aches and pains which are not intended or necessary. If I want him to hurt, I will take him to the playroom and make sure he feels pain I will enjoy delivering. I guess this sums 'us' up in a nutshell, but like I said in my post above, when I go at the jobs I have to get done, especially if the list is particuarly long or had, I get pulled up (a lot) in the sense that resting is detrimental to the mind-over-matter thinking I need in the first place because of my physical disposition. Sean. Lovingly Owned by ~Miss Phay~ Next page