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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "How do i help Him when He struggles?" 1 2 How do i help Him when He struggles? (13) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 20 Apr 09, 4:47 PM slave_snow US(VA), 3 yrs Y! Daniel wrote: slave_snow: I think you've got some really good answeres in this thread. I just want to add that I believe mental helth issues, beyond a certain point, on behalf of the one who's supposed to be in charge is a force majeure- situation. A mental health disturbance (depression, anxiety, psychosis etc) by definition implies that the person it concerns doesn't have a realistic reasoning in some sense. Thus: He or she can't take the responsibility that's required. This means that it's in order if the slave does what he/she has to do to help the owner. In teory this is quite simple. In practice not so of course. What he needs is treatment. There are efficient methods for this nowadys. Medication works and so does CBT (not "Cock and Ball Torture", but "Cognitive Behavioural Therapy"). Especially the combination of medication and psychotherapy has good support from current research. With very severe depression, ECT (ElectroConvulsive Therapy) might be needed. As this is done today it's a smooth and painless treatment, almost without sideeffects. I hope these treatments are available where you live and that you (or some friend) can help your Master to try it out (any of it is better than nothing). /Best wishes I agree, that in theory and in practice, many things arefar more difficult. The options you listed are great for many people and I hope that some day He discovers what will work best for Him. For now, I am gathering information, enacting what I can, and being as caring and supportive(not always appearing to be as submissive in nature as i would like) as I can be, in order to assist Him, to be the best and healthiest person He can be. I so very much appreciate all of the wonderful advice and personal support I have received from the people here. 24 Apr 09, 1:09 PM 890-876-591 UK, 4 yrs moebius_slave wrote: more than anything he needs you to be his partner, his friend, an acquaintance, neighbor, or whatever, anything but a slave who will coddle to his every emotional, depressed, self destructive whim. I could not agree more. You've had some really good advise on this thread, and I hope that it is easing the situation for you, however slightly. You are doing the right thing by stepping out of your 'sub shoes' when you need to, and I know how hard it must be. As one who avoided seeing the doctor for years, I can vouch for the dangers of leaving this condition untreated. You (or someone he can accept advice from) need to remind him that this is an illness, and like any illness it needs to be treated properly - neglect will not make it go away. If he was a diabetic, he would not refuse to take insulin, would he? If he broke his arm, he wouldn't try to fix it himself? I suspect that he needs assurance that you and the people around him will not think less of him if he accepts that this is an issue and sees someone about it, but I understand how hard that can be. If it helps any, see this as simply a different level of service, not a failure to submit. I know I'm probably not being as clear as I would like, but by all means, feel free to memo me if you want to talk. Good luck Charlie You gave me a life, now show me how to live 26 Apr 09, 6:09 PM devot2her US(VA), 3 yrs As a slave to a precions, wonderful Mistress who suffers from a serious mental illness, I know what the OP is suffering. Fortunately, my Mistress is getting treatement, both medication and counselling. Without that, she would be in no shape to be a Mistress at all, or even a functional human being. Even still, I have to beware of signs that her judgment is compromised. For instance even as her slave, by her doctor's orders, I must keep control of the finances because one of the affects of her illness is compulsive spending. It's a daily struggle for her, and one that will likely never end, but she is working hard to win the battle. She and I simply look at it as one of my acts of service to her, to protect her from the effects of her illness, but it isn't pleasant for either of us. In the OP's case, there is no treatment happening (unless things have changed). The best thing she can do for her Master is to get him help. If he start talking about killing himself, get him to the nearest hospital emergency room even if you have to call the police to do it. He will be mad in the short term, but he will thank you later (assuming the treatement helps). The ER at even the most back-water hospital will have a psychiatrist or psychologist on staff who can get him admitted (or committed if he refuses) to a mental hospital short-term. (3 days to a week.) After a few days of medication and counselling, such people often say, "Wow! I did need help." This was our first step in getting help. (Though without the "police" part.) He has to get his illness under control before you can go back to being his slave. But, it can happen. Why? Because I [i]love[/i] her! What better reason is their than that?