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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Collared in public." 1 2 3 Collared in public. (27) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 29 Jun 09, 11:33 PM EvaMaria US(CA), 3 yrs Master_Smith wrote: For those who worry about other issues, I ask but one question….. if you are truly a 24 / 7 slave and not the vanilla want to be then why do you care what others think or say. This would seem reasonable to me only if the slave is actually able to live in a 24/7 Gor world (or any other alternative sort) and has no need or desire to participate in the conventional. Otherwise, it's a case of expecting the behaviour without the environment. Master_Smith wrote: They are not in our life style, they have no understanding and much less character than those who are in fact in it 24 / 7. I disagree. A person doesn't need to be an active participant to have an understanding of a particular lifestyle - I'm not a Christian but I have a good understanding of the life and beliefs of those who are and I'm certainly not the only one. The practice of M/s, D/s, Gor etc may encourage a person to interact differently, but character is basic and a thing the person brings to the practice. Otherwise, the reality would have to be that for the years of life before a person discovers Gor (for example) he/she had only a minimum of character and upon returning to a conventional lifestyle would automatically revert to their former "low" ways. That logic doesn't take human personality, intelligence or free will into account and/or would hold that John Norman invented social responsibility. Eva (The property formerly known as Camille ) 2 Jul 09, 11:45 AM a_true_pet US(NV), 5 yrs i agree with Undercover. There are many designs which can be "ambiguous" in meaning. my standard collar is unusual compared to most common jewelry, (i've never really seen another exactly like it on anyone in day to day interaction) but it's not THAT out there that most people think anything about it... except perhaps those in the scene who smile and make clever conversation. i've uploaded a photo to my profile if/when it is approved you can see how simple it is. i've had quite a few favorable comments about it, and also met quite a few people in the scene via it, who pretty much figured out what it was instantly. Master get's a kick out of the fact that it is clearly seen on my driver's license and passport photos. It is solid and looks locked on, but is not. For vanilla people i meet frequently (like on a regular weekly or daily basis) i switch it out with another which i am allowed by Master, so it isn't obvious that i wear it all the time. i have yet to come across a negative comment, only a few which have made me blush from those in the know. The worst i've come across is vanillas who want to try it on . my suggestion is to talk to your owner about: 1. Making it something moderate enough to match a large line of your clothing (Important! Gold, for instance, is Always fashionable 2. Allow you an alternate collar or two that you can switch off with around people you see frequently (fellow workers, family, etc). Edited 2 Jul 09, 12:23 PM by a_true_pet 2 Jul 09, 12:53 PM Ms_Valentine UK, 3 yrs I wanted paul to have one piece of symbolic jewellery only and so had to choose an item which was wearable all day every day in any circumstances. I chose a thick diameter sterling silver rope chain. The diameter of links is approx 8-10 mm, I can't recall off the top of my head and he isn't here for me to measure it. We closed the chain with a 'polo' sweet shaped stainless steel lock about 3cm in size. This means it can easily look like a normal chain when he is at work and yet we know it is symbolising the 24/7 relationship we have and it never ever comes off. No one has ever asked anything embarrassing about it so either it really does blend in well or people are just not that observant. We like the quietly unobtrusive look it has as it suits our discreet lifestyle and is very aesthetically attractive in my view. A win win situation for us. 14 Jul 09, 8:50 PM 169-246-544 US(FL), 2 yrs Y! As a slave myself I go every where with my collar and even when I sleep I wear it. Its a gift from your master, and is like a wedding band in a marriage. That shows the intense bond between you and Master. Just think of it as a necklace or maybe even ask your Master for a more fashionable or discreet collar. The two of you know what its for and thats all that should matter. Your master by your side should be all you need for gaining a back bone in the eye of the public. I personally don't mind the eyes and questions I get from my collar when I run around town. 15 Jul 09, 7:15 PM Master_Teel US(TX), 4 yrs My pet wears her collar 24/7. I had a simple chainmail necklace custom ordered with no clasp, and I closed it with a small brass padlock that I shaped and polished with my dremel. All of the ones I could find for sale are all nickel plated, which my pet is allergic to. Master_Teel Use Google to search SD: http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:se... 18 Jul 09, 9:13 AM Willow US(NY), 2 yrs In my circle of friends that are in the lifestyle, some wear collars out into public, but most just wear a silver chain or a necklace of sorts. Kind of like the Tiffany necklace, but with a different engraving. ^^ Then there are the women/men that aren't involved with BDSM, but still wear a BDSM collar because they think it's goth or something. When I walk around with them, they don't get a lot of looks or anything. Most people assume it's just a fad. Then again, it IS New York. Their morals, their code, it's a bad joke - dropped at the first sign of trouble. You have all these rules, and you think that'll save you. 19 Jul 09, 7:07 PM 682-645-503 UK, 3 yrs £ When I used to wear my collar out, I was always nervous.. I have a few different necklaces that He bought me, but my collar that I usually wear to sleep in is an inch wide black leather one, it has a brass effect buckle and D-Ring, both next to each other, so I can swivel it round the back of my neck and "hide" it under my hair. As and when I do wear it out now, I'm still sure that people are staring at it.. but I dont think they are really. Thinking about it though.. Lots of my goth friends (myself included when I was younger) walk around with collars and cuffs on.. some with spikes, some with studs, some without.. nothing is ever said, so I dont really understand why we keep fretting about it.. Least I know I'm not the only one.. "May the wind always be at your back, and the sun always upon your face, and may the wings of destiny carry you aloft to dance with the stars." ~ unknown origin Property of Master Nid, girl is slave - her purpose is to please and be pleasing.