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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Punishment/Play - Different?" 1 2 Punishment/Play - Different? (12) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Tue 3 Mar 09, 9:44 PM 717-736-121 UK, 3 yrs This is my first post on this site and is the first time i have been owned. I have only known Mistress a few weeks or so but things have moved so fast. I have spent almost two weeks at Her house now. Anyway, with this new relationship i have been learning so much, but have also become confused by certain things. First of all, how do your experiences differ when it comes to a scene if you have been good or bad? I received a punishment from Mistress which normally although it would have been painful i might have still enjoyed it. However because i knew i had disappointed Mistress from the moment i was told to kneel in the corridor and wait for Her i felt terrible. Throughout the whole scene i couldn't stop myself feeling shameful. Although my penis is erect most of the time when around Mistress it went down for the punishment and didn't return until the next day (as a side question, can i ask... is this common?) Mistress is very caring and always makes sure i am ok, i just need to learn to keep my mouth shut sometimes to avoid these punishments. I look forward to your replies, 717-736-121: posted with permission of Miss Star 7 Mar 09, 5:34 AM 996-150-083 4 yrs I have found a distinction in my reaction to floggings depending upon whether it is my regular morning slave-training flogging or a punishment flogging for being disobedient. Each morning I must prepare Mistress Tamara's breakfast and then stand facing the wall in Mistress Tamara's bedroom until I am summoned for my morning flogging. I invariably get an erection while waiting for my slave-training flogging and have to stop myself from cumming when Mistress Tamara's flogger colors my butt. Yet, whenever I am given a punishment flogging, my penis shrinks away and my legs tremble - and while punishment floggings are always more severe I am convinced that there is more to it then that. I am simply unable to maintain an erection when I know that I have disobeyed or at least displeased Mistress Tamara. Spanked Slave 996-150-083 7 Mar 09, 10:27 PM thekittenpup 4 yrs Regarding the penis question, I have no idea, as I don't have one :P Sorry. For me though, I prefer to have different forms of punishment versus play. Otherwise (again for me) I become confused and the feelings surrounding the activity get mushed up and it would be very easy for me to not feel punished during punishment or to feel punished during play. And those things we do not want. Not sure if that's really answering your question though... ~brightest blessings, brandie~ http://onmyknees.sensualwriter.com/ 7 Mar 09, 11:57 PM 483-608-929 US(OH), 4 yrs When I have disappointed SIR even normally fun activities take on the air of punishment. It comes from inside and it is driven by the fact that I have done wrong. I don't think we'd be good slaves if we didn't know these feelings because we wouldn't care if we obeyed or not. It would not be important to us. I think I am the hardest on myself even with any punishments SIR gives me. I dwell on it long past His punishment and try not to do it again. I must learn to keep my mouth shut at times, too, plus keep my desires in line. Written by it with its Owner's permission. Thank you SIR. Ultimately we know deeply that the other side of every fear is a freedom. Marilyn Ferguson Duct tape is like the force, it has a light side and a dark side and it holds the universe together 8 Mar 09, 1:26 AM 996-150-083 4 yrs 807-721-457 wrote: Regarding the penis question, I have no idea, as I don't have one :P Sorry. For me though, I prefer to have different forms of punishment versus play. Otherwise (again for me) I become confused and the feelings surrounding the activity get mushed up and it would be very easy for me to not feel punished during punishment or to feel punished during play. And those things we do not want. Not sure if that's really answering your question though... I would expect that other trained male slaves would find, just as I do, that it is almost impossible to maintain an erection when faced with your owner's displeasure. As an owned slave, my penis is to provide pleasure for Mistress Tamara and my own pleasure must only result from the knowledge that I am serving and obeying Mistress Tamara. I have been trained to not cum without permission. My training involved the wearing of a chastity pouch for 72 hours following any such infringement during a training flogging. I have never cum, whilst receiving a punishment flogging. Spanked Slave 996-150-083 8 Mar 09, 3:37 AM thekittenpup 4 yrs 996-150-083 wrote: I have been trained to not cum without permission. My training involved the wearing of a chastity pouch for 72 hours following any such infringement during a training flogging. I have never cum, whilst receiving a punishment flogging. My Sir is also starting to give me orgasm training. I must say I do find it frustrating lol, but it has only just begun. I also find no sexual joy in punishments. I suppose I could see however, someone may if that is the way their interests swing. Everyone is different. ~brightest blessings, brandie~ http://onmyknees.sensualwriter.com/ 9 Mar 09, 3:15 PM 717-736-121 UK, 3 yrs Thank you all for the responses, my legs also start to tremble when i am being punished. I don't understand that one, i don't know if its fear or the knowledge that i have really disapointed Her that makes me tremble. I look forward to my punishment in a way as it means closure. As soon as i am done Mistress tells me everything is ok and although i still find it difficult to accept that, eventually i do and have learnt from my mistake. When you say you have been trained not to cum without permission, does this mean you have had to learn to last longer during intercourse? If it does how did you train for that? 717-736-121: posted with permission of Miss Star 9 Mar 09, 5:08 PM crystalredroze US(OH), 4 yrs Y! For me it can be the same activity such as a whipping yet because i know i'm being punished or have dissapointed Master i dont enjoy it at all as if it were a stress reliever act. i think for me its about my mental state as far as getting enjoyment out of it or not. 9 Mar 09, 5:23 PM Rolling_Wildheart 6 yrs What I do to differentiate, although giolla always knows when she is being punished, is order her to get into the Gorean Position "Kneel to the Whip". This way, she knows immediately that what she is receiving is punishment and not going to be fun. I also don't warm her up. When done for pleasure, I start out slowly to build up her tolerance level. When punishment, there is no build up at all. Hope that helps answer part of your question. Wildheart Forsaken/I have come for you tonight/Awaken/Look in my eyes and take my hand/Give yourself up to me. - Dream Theater 10 Mar 09, 8:46 AM 996-150-083 4 yrs Yes, Mistress Tamara always starts punishment floggings severely with no warm up, which definately differentiates them from training ones. Spanked Slave 996-150-083 14 Apr 09, 10:07 PM his_slavepet US(GA), 4 yrs Y! 483-608-929 wrote: When I have disappointed SIR even normally fun activities take on the air of punishment. It comes from inside and it is driven by the fact that I have done wrong. I don't think we'd be good slaves if we didn't know these feelings because we wouldn't care if we obeyed or not. It would not be important to us. I think I am the hardest on myself even with any punishments SIR gives me. I dwell on it long past His punishment and try not to do it again. I must learn to keep my mouth shut at times, too, plus keep my desires in line. I am absolutely the same way. I cannot enjoy myself when I know I have disappointed Master. And I brood for a long time afterward. I have a hard time fighting this brooding and I can sometimes become depressed. This is something I have a very hard time working through, but I'm trying. jpet "You are indeed beautiful, worthy and capable, and you will become even more so, my dear slavepet, under my hand. We will make the trip together." - Master David Next page