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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Punishment Philosophy" 1 2 3 4 5 6 Punishment Philosophy (56) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 21 Feb 09, 4:41 PM anjuli UK, 4 yrs Don't be, De! Really, the row, if you look, is all about one person being rude to people and not just on this thread. He's gone. It's gone. And hooray for getting back to the very interesting subject. Hope you'll add that detail back in and others will come in now too. I will as soon as I get some time. And I apologise for making you feel worried... it was not the intent... what was, was preventing one person from imposing himself on others. But I am sorry, I got pretty ratty myself there... definitely caught me on a bad day. I'm back to my usual happy self now I promise. <grins> anjuli *** The quality of strength lined with tenderness is an unbeatable combination, as are intelligence and necessity when unblunted by formal education. *** Maya Angelou *** Edited 21 Feb 09, 7:35 PM by anjuli 21 Feb 09, 5:38 PM property_of_MacCain 4 yrs So De, are you saying you had posted more on page three, where you described how you use punishment? Or are you saying on this last post you still feel uncomfortable? i thought your post back on page three was quite descriptive even in the midst of the argument. p i breathe because He allows me, indulging Him indulges me. 21 Feb 09, 7:04 PM Degenerate UK, 3 yrs Hi sorry for being unclear, I said more then bottled out and deleted it (the first time)-) thought it best to keep it simple Edited 21 Feb 09, 7:22 PM by Degenerate 21 Feb 09, 9:59 PM 688-764-833 US, 5 yrs Tanos wrote: So, these martyrs to the holy cause of "Including D/s In BDSM" have names of course? Of course, Tanos. I refer to you Sir Lord High Master Jack and slave jill, immortalized in the famous poem "Jack and Jill" by Mother Goose. "To fetch a pail of water" is (obviously) an allegorical reference to an Old Guard BDSM scene in which a single tail whip is used to imprint the (now, sadly endangered) triskahelion on the bottom-type's right buttock while the b-type stand with their arms over their head in the approved Old Guard Receiving-The-Triskahelion Position #7. SLHM Jack unfortunately overbalanced while striking jill's buttock, tripped over a flogger that some idiot had left from a previous scene, and fell, striking his head on the edge of a Saint Andrews Cross upon which a nubile slave was being caned. jill immediately prostrated herself upon her master's body (thus, "tumbling after"). Sheesh. Didn't you people read the handbook that came with the membership card, decoder ring, and thirty-seven sided dice?? (and yes, tangie, fries come with it,too ) Sorry; couldn't resist Seriously, though. ravenkaldera wrote: ...How do the dominants here tailor things in ways that show that they know their slave, and make custom rules about discipline? My master's other s-type is more level-headed and thick skinned than I. He can say things to her for correction, that she'll take in stride, that would leave me depressed and/or in tears. We are punished differently because different things get his desired result. We aren't punished often, thankfully. (We are also rewarded differently, btw.) ravenkaldera wrote: ...For him, any punishment up to a certain line would simply be a "price to pay" if he wanted to disobey the rules. "I want to do X, even though I'm not supposed to. What's the penalty? OK, I can take that.".... Question for the M's: what do you do with an s-type who keeps "taking it"; whether it be physical punishment and/or loss of privileges and/or expressions of extreme disappointment in order to continue doing something that was forbidden (like, say, eating candy bars)? Cheers, Leesie 22 Feb 09, 4:04 AM ravenkaldera US(MA), 6 yrs 688-764-833 wrote: Question for the M's: what do you do with an s-type who keeps "taking it"; whether it be physical punishment and/or loss of privileges and/or expressions of extreme disappointment in order to continue doing something that was forbidden (like, say, eating candy bars)? Well, ideally, you pry into their heads enough that you figure out *why* they keep disobeying. Then you can make an informed decision whether they are actually suitable for what you're trying to get them to do. But people might have many different reasons for doing that, and it's impossible to generalize. Usually, though, there's either something pretty heavy going on in their heads, or they're not really submissive, they just think they are. -Raven Kaldera -If you're in charge, it's all on your head. If it's not all on your head, then you're not really in charge. 25 Feb 09, 6:39 AM 693-874-541 US(CA), 3 yrs As I am new to the whole situation of having someone to report to, and I have never been very good with authority, I recently went through a rather difficult punishment. I had been out of town on business and I was to report in with my master every night. All went well at first but then I was unable to. I worried my master so, and I regret putting him in such a situation. But as fit, when I returned, my master had a punishment in store for me. I have only gone through the first of three punishments. (With the marks to prove it.) My master not only told me that he was VERY disappointed, but had an idea of how I could not only be punished but show him that I was serious about being his pet. He had me stand in four inch heals with nothing but my stockings and garter belt on (I dislike being naked) with my hands clasped behind my back for thirty minutes, without speaking or moving, while he did his best to make me break my concentration. This was most difficult but it did not only allow me to understand that he was disappointed but also that I do not want to disappoint my master again. After we had finished though he made sure to reinforce the concept that I am to do what I am told. That is the way of the Master/pet relationship. All in all I have always believed that each indiscretion has its own punishment, and each person has their own style of punishment.