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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Younger Dominant - Older s type" 1 2 3 Younger Dominant - Older s type (25) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 26 Feb 09, 5:31 PM Daniel SE, 3 yrs Thank you for answering, M. Tiara. I think you made it clear. Or rather, as clean as can possibly be. After all it's not the kind of question that easily lends itself to chrystal clarity What intrigues me is the thought of “taking advantage of somebody else's experiences” in a more specific sense. As I understand it, it: 1/ requires that the slave has some significant experience that the owner has not. It also requires 2/ that the owner realizes that this is the case. And 3/ it requires a certain amount of healthy humilility on behalf of the owner. Maybe I'd better take a personal example: My slave has more than 30 of experience from organized bdsm in all its forms and has tried almost all its techniques, which I have not. (I've been in a discrete non-scene D/s-relationship for 14 years before, but that's another question.) Anyway, fact is that she and a few others founded the first local s/m-club in our area in the early eightie's while I was in 5:th grade, and she's been actively into s/m since before I was admitted to kindergarten. What I've found, in short, is that consciously and intentionally taking advantage of my slave's own experiences is an immensely effective thing to do. If I make sure to ask her, listen to her advice and get her to tell me what she knows, before I make a decision that's related to the scene-context, the networking, specific techniques, play parties or specific persons - then I can act more than my age. Actually it works. This does in no way undermine our dynamics, since there are other differences in experiences and properties that I don't mention here. Sometimes I interview her lengthily in a specific situation like this. Then I make a decision that's solely mine. She knows a lot but she doesn't really know what to do with it or how to use it, because it's really not her business where she and I are heading together. As she's mine, she follows where I take her and that's how we want it to be. But she appreciates, of course, that I find her experiences valuable, and that I use them. The sum is that this enables me to act and make decisions well beyond my own experiences. Is this an example of taking advantage of the other's experience, that you mentioned earlier in the thread? In that case, I understand. /D ~Still going wrong~ 27 Feb 09, 6:47 PM Morniel US, 4 yrs Sounds pretty close to the way we operate. I was married before, and that marriage also was D/s//M/s. Obviously I know a lot about that from my perspective. He dated a few people before we met. None of them were D/s relationships. He picks my brain about many things, listens to what I tell him, and makes decisions for the family based on his knowledge, my experience, and so on. Morniel's Special Place 27 Feb 09, 9:14 PM Mistress_Tiara 5 yrs Daniel wrote: requires that the slave has some significant experience that the owner has not. Yes, he definately does - we have quite diverse experiences in some ways, but I quite like that. Daniel wrote: It also requires 2/ that the owner realizes that this is the case. Yup. Daniel wrote: 3/ it requires a certain amount of healthy humilility on behalf of the owner. It just seems common sense to me, there's no point in having an ego trip about stuff. He has some experiences & attached knowledge I don't, some of which I think his extra years have given him a different perspective on than when he was experiencing them at the time (which is particularly useful sometimes). As I own him I can systematically utilise them and this has sometimes brought very good results. When you say that, Daniel wrote: What I've found, in short, is that consciously and intentionally taking advantage of my slave's own experiences is an immensely effective thing to do. this really resonates with me. I think it's important that one does it consciously and mindfully to make it work well, but done this way this seems to pose no problems. Thanks for the feedback Daniel, I'm enjoying your posts btw 'If the first woman God ever made was strong enough to turn the world upside down all alone, these together ought to be able to turn it back and get it right side up again'. Sojourner Truth. 27 Feb 09, 9:16 PM Mistress_Tiara 5 yrs Morniel wrote: He picks my brain about many things, listens to what I tell him, and makes decisions for the family based on his knowledge, my experience, and so on. I don't tend to do this regarding family matters in this way, but the principle is exactly the same. I just see it as a different form of service really 'If the first woman God ever made was strong enough to turn the world upside down all alone, these together ought to be able to turn it back and get it right side up again'. Sojourner Truth. 1 Mar 09, 10:56 AM slave_j FI, 3 yrs hi My Mistress i 20 y old 1 Mar 09, 3:21 PM 613-411-535 3 yrs i once came close to being owned by someone 45 years younger than me! At present i'm in training with a Domme who is 20 years younger. For me, age makes no difference. being older, it's easy for me to say that - i can quite understand that some younger people find it hard to contemplate a relationship with someone very much older than themselves. i can only say that experience can bring some qualities that help.... 1 Mar 09, 9:27 PM Daniel SE, 3 yrs Mistress Tiara: Thank you for your answeres and for your welcoming words! I believe I get your point - it made it clearer to me. Thanks a lot! ~Still going wrong~ 1 Mar 09, 11:56 PM Master_Fusion AU, 5 yrs I am a 25 year old Master and i love the idea of having a mature/older woman as my sub/slave, and i think that most women should at least try it before comming to the conclusion that it is not right 2 Mar 09, 12:30 AM 662-935-655 5 yrs it doesn't work at all for me - because in a relationship O/one party at least should be mature and secure, and i'm NOT it when it comes to maturity. that is a weak spot for me! But if it works for someone E/else, i'm all for it for them! i will be blunt to say that the down side of age difference for U/us is that my Master died, being 10 years, 10 mos. and 2 weeks older than i.(but whose counting - grin!) Thanks to His having served in the military forces in our Country i am provided for at an acceptable level though below the poverty line, becaus W/we are/were legally married. But if F/folks do the age-difference thing on either end of an M/s or D/s real-time, live-in, permanent relationship, please get life insurance or a will or whatever it takes to legally protect the younger P/person on either end of the relationship - please? Pretty Please? With Splenda on top? (i'm a diabetic- GRIN) j/L Papa's owned always: still proudly wearing His Collar and Ring, rest in peace Beloved Master/Husband! alias "GRANNY" Matrika ye "OLDE" crone, bright blessing! Edited 2 Mar 09, 12:34 AM by 662-935-655 2 Mar 09, 12:15 PM slave_j FI, 3 yrs my 20y Mistress and the whip ! http://video2.xtube.com/watch.php?v_user_id=pain... Edited 2 Mar 09, 12:16 PM by slave_j Next page