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	TSR : Web boards : Other Topics : "A weird story of how fake people can be." 1 2 3 4 5 6 A weird story of how fake people can be. (54) This post is on the Other Topics web board. 11 Feb 09, 7:14 PM anjuli UK, 4 yrs Can I just point out and correct a slight misconception... that far from leaving because they felt people were too picky about definitions, some of the people who were long term members who left last year did so believing that we were not strict enough! Some argued that ANYTHING that intervened between the M and s was antithetical to slavery and most certainly to IE. And that included jobs, children and pets let alone physical or geographic distances. And very few of us actually meet those standards. Others left or were removed from here by their M's because they were concerned about a very controversial issue involving as it did a Master describing himself as psychopathic. I'm certainly not going there again but it had nothing to do with definitions. Yet more left because of the dwindling numbers of people in 24/7 M/s relationships which meant that they had fewer and fewer people to relate to or share with and because they were increasingly frustrated by not being able to discuss M/s matters as they relate to 24/7 pairings because of the large numbers of people who wished to be acknowledged as the same when they quite obviously were not. They felt their voices were drowned by everyone else from scene D/s people to online gor followers who would not allow any differentiation and so derailed their discussions. That obliquely related to definitions I suppose but really, Grl, you shouldn't let this mislead you. The wiki definitions are there for the purposes of removing doubt and boringly repetitive debate over the meaning of basic terms. They do not define eveyone here and are not, and should not, be used to judge anyone. It gets difficult as it did in my last example when people want a group of peers to ask advice from and they are denied that by people aggressively refusing to accept any difference, for sure. But other than some sensitivity to that when posting I don't think we need to continually debate what groups people are in or indeed that anyone here is really worried about what groups people are in. It's self-sorting really if people are able to not see it as a personal judgment if they are in one type of relationship or another according to a totally impersonal lexicon. Your relationship is good for you isn't it? And for Justice? That's all that matters. I don't measure myself against anyone else here or share more than I wish to or J allows of personal details of our dynamic. Take it easy. anjuli Edited to add that I'm not making any judgements - simply trying to explain past happenings. I don't want to reopen debate on those things that are best left in the past so please don't ask me to. *** The quality of strength lined with tenderness is an unbeatable combination, as are intelligence and necessity when unblunted by formal education. *** Maya Angelou *** Edited 11 Feb 09, 7:20 PM by anjuli 11 Feb 09, 11:32 PM JRCs_petk HK, 4 yrs Y! Thank-you for clarifying the reasons that most people left MT and anjuli. There were also those of us who left temporarily because life got in the way. It happens. Personally, we saw a shift in the boards that was not for the best. Then old 'life' got in the way. Thanks to a concentrated effort of many wonderful people on these boards today, we have returned. We're sorry to hear that you won't be returning to us 119. It's nice to be able to hold an intellectual debate, where we all learn from other's experiences. Take care and best wishes. Edited 11 Feb 09, 11:36 PM by JRCs_petk 12 Feb 09, 1:56 AM 558-214-000 4 yrs 119-812-164 wrote: EDited to ADD: after reading the last bit of posts, my Owner, Master and Daddy has instructed me to remove myself from the boards. Congratulations and departing smiles ... Grl Wow...i learned a lot from you and appreciated your wisdom, Grl. You were a great addition to these boards, so refreshing and positive. i love your spirit. i wish you gl but you won't need it. thank you for sharing yourself. you will be missed. Written by permission of MasterBLU Edited 12 Feb 09, 1:58 AM by 558-214-000 12 Feb 09, 2:00 AM EvaMaria US(CA), 3 yrs For my post - This came about from thinking on Anjuli's comment re: comparison. I think this was her meaning (you will tell it please, Anjuli?) but if not I still think it's worth saying for everyone to know. We all know the situation where a child comes home and says: "they all hate me at school" or "all teachers suck" or other ways of expressing a negative narrow-view of what happens in the world. As parent you know that the (emotional, social) intelligence gap simply is too big and that every argument will get lost in a meaningless discussion because the reply will always be: "yes, but.." Sir Aldric posted this on page 3 of this thread, by way of explaining why he didn't feel there was much to be gained in further discussion. As in, because he felt that those who disagreed were looking to change his opinion only, and therefore no matter what response he might give it was sure to be met with some new objection. It was clear to me and I think everyone else. But what wasn't clear to me until now is that a person reading his statement could see an inference that those he had decided not to respond to had the mentality of children. That's a false and ugly thing to say and I never would say it. I don't think that was his meaning - if I had I would not have quoted him. Nonetheless, it is a possibility and an oversight on my part - I want to clarify that wasn't intended. For my knowledge of Grl's personal life - I do know more of it than other members. But I have NEVER posted anything to these boards based on that knowledge. It would be indiscreet as well as foolish to expect that others would understand me. My feeling that her experience is wider than most is based on what she's posted over past months here, for everyone to know. What I also knew better than most was how Grl felt about the noticeably higher incidence of commentary re: her "credentials" that invariably came attached to opposing opinions in debate. It's not for me to offer those details but I will own that it played a part in my actions and feelings toward said commentary in the way of confirmation that what I felt was shared and that's what Grl refers to. But even without this I would most likely have voiced the opinions I did anyway - my posting history will support that. For "qualifications" for board usage - ...nevermind. It got much bigger than I'd expected. I think I need to create a thread. I do understand Justice's reasons and I know it's for the best. But I will miss you and what you would have contributed. Camille Edited 12 Feb 09, 2:02 AM by EvaMaria