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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : ""well trained"" 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 "well trained" (66) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 14 Aug 09, 1:26 AM 000-671-955 CA, 7 yrs Y! roaming_captive wrote: Someone once asked me if I am "well-trained", and at first I was going to dismiss it as a pretty lame question because it seemed so subjective. I mean, it's all about what one reads into the word and its parameters., and the views are as many and varied as the people holding them, it seems. There are so many "between the lines" remarks that are fired off left and right between people here - online - intended to establish protocol, hierarchy and authority, and to be honest,.. at times it is hard not to be jaded by a question like that. Especially when you know that if you answer "yes" then it will usually mean that the person asking will hold you to his or her own standards, assuming they must obviously be identical to everyone else's - and if you answer "no" then you can be pretty sure to get some kind of half-sleezy comment about "being taught your place" or something equally "enlightened". But actually, I think it is an interesting question that deserves a proper answer (and granted there's already been 60 qualified ones before this, but still I thought I'd pitch in and offer part of myself like everyone else has, instead of just lurking) To me "well-trained" means essentially the same as being well-educated. Well-educated means more than just having spent x amount of years in school. It isn't enough to have a degree or a diploma. Well-educated means "informed and capable of applying the learned knowledge within and without the confines in which it was accquired" to me. So, for a person to be well-trained in my eyes... it means that that person is willing, capable and ready to take responsibility for his or her own actions, and do so actively in life in general. It means not just sitting around and waiting for someone else to have the answers or fix things that don't make you happy but proactively working with oneself and one's life in order to improve and enhance it. It also means being willing and able to think for oneself. To make choices, even when it is easier not to. Especially when it is easier not to. As a submissive it is so easy to just kick back and let the first and the best Dominant who comes by take over and run the show. It is so easy to slip into a protocol that one doesn't really subscribe to, simply to please the other person. And so easy to just rub people the right way and call it "good training", because it appears pleasing and comfortable. Well-educated people don't always tell you what you want to hear. Well-educated people shouldn't make a point of dumbing down so that those around them feel superior to them. They may have grasp on rhetorics and diplomacy that makes them pleasant and comfortable to be around, but that doesn't mean they pander to egos. That just means they choose to value establishing communication, rather than outright provoke by being blunt, simply because they can. Being well-trained is the same to me. If you have been lucky enough to have (had) someone in your life who has imparted you with knowledge and information that gives you insight into yourself and others then you are - in my opinion - obligated to honour and make use of that. Obligated to the responsibility of knowing better than to mope and whine and wallow in self-pity and blaming everyone else for your own bad experiences. And that applies for Dominants and submissives alike. Well-trained in a lifestyle relation therefore to me means having an awareness of both oneself and others. It means acting with the kind of responsibility, dignity and humility that makes this lifestyle safe, welcoming and fun for others to share with you. It means not being dubbed or steamrolled for the sake of boosting someone else's ego. And it means knowing that "well-trained"... like "well-educated"... is just the beginning. The more one knows, the more there is yet to learn... To me, this beats being able to assume a dozen different positions and serve six fictional kinds of drinks any day. Respect doesn't lie in the title you claim or offer. It lies in the meaning and intent behind why you earn or offer it. And knowing that intent, understanding it and learning how to act on it in the right way at the right time and for the right reasons... THAT is being well-trained... AND well-educated in my opinion. Just my two cents' worth... *smiles* Master asked me the question do i feel that i am well trained as a slave, and my answer to Master was,"Have i done all what you have asked of me to your satisfaction, and if so then my training is progressing for your pleasure" Master smiled when i answered this way, i also told Him that i never want to stop pleasing Him, and doing what he sets before me, and that i have complete faith in the direction He is taking Us. If you feel that you please your own Master everytime He commands you, then you are adding to a part of your Lifestyle training, even the punishments are a training tool, and should be looked upon as part that the slave must learn to accept properly. i feel that even everyday rituals and protocols are training for slaves, and can only be judged by the Master who is familar with their slave. Master's "o" 671955 16 Aug 09, 6:06 PM slave_tits US, 5 yrs Y! I am told I am well trained because I understand my place and what I am goood for. And I am well trained because I don't hesitate to obey a command even if it scares me. (Please forgive the capital i's. My phone automatically does that) just a trained slave who knows what she is good for. 16 Aug 09, 8:34 PM 957-909-675 US(PA), 3 yrs my Master and i believe that well trained is something that is not for a slave to say, but for a Free person to tell the slave... training is all about the pleasure of the Free and it can change at a whim. my Master feels that i am well trained to His tastes... and for me, that's all that matters ~*~Master Xamps little squirrel ~*~ 'What are you?' I inquired. 'A slave girl,' she said. 'What is your duty?' I asked. 'Absolute obedience,' she cried out." Hunters of Gor, page 258 20 Aug 09, 5:28 PM bushlover UK, 5 yrs slave_tits wrote: (Please forgive the capital i's. My phone automatically does that) I'm sorry but it's unforgiveable - no excuses! 28 Aug 09, 12:30 PM Sashaspetkat 4 yrs Afternoon_Delight wrote: "well trained" In the past several months I have talked to several unattached slaves who have said that they were "well trained". It has made me wonder what that term means when used to describe someone who is unowned and what it should mean to a potential Master. Slave must be trained by owning to some several months.So to get to know each other of M/s is very important. The basic needs are honesty and loyalty between M and s. 3 Oct 10, 11:34 AM 487-312-778 FR, 4 yrs awell trainrd slave is a slave in good hands in excellent handjulia julia,travesti d'intérieur,bi tatoué et piercé,célibataire de 60ans soumis,recherche rencontre bdsm et sexe :trio couple ,voire domina et eventualité de vie commune