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	TSR : Web boards : Internal Enslavement : "I don't understand IE" 1 2 3 I don't understand IE (29) This post is on the Internal Enslavement web board. 24 Jan 09, 8:54 AM EvaMaria US(CA), 3 yrs PuppyClaire wrote: My brain keeps saying "something could have happened overnight......something could have happened while you were out shopping....something could have happened while you were with your friends. It's such an unhealthy thing for me that it led to me dumping the man I love when he proposed to me instead of marrying him. And... I'm going to ask Will to find out for me if the military offers counselling to partners. I'm sure they must have some to support families if they lose someone, and I can't be the first person to have this problem. I should have asked about this a long time ago instead of burying my head in the sand. I think counseling is the best way. Something that caused you to reject Will, even while knowing how important he is to you, deserves the help of an expert in the psychology of it. Finding those answers is a big (and possibly unrealistic) task for a layperson. From what I understand of IE, it's dependent upon the ability of the dominant to extract information from the submissive. Unhappily, this problem's existence is a good proof that as yet you don't know the whys or where of its origin. And if one bases its tenets on Maslow's self-actualization theories, IE would not be applicable in this particular area, so counseling wouldn't conflict with that exploration. As in, it's not a case of either/or. Also, I think you ought to give yourself some "above and beyond" credit here. There are so many who never in all their lives understand when a barrier comes from within - let alone realize it can be changed and determine to do so. Good for you! Camille 24 Jan 09, 3:22 PM ClairesCO UK, 3 yrs Claire and I are going to sort this out ASAP. I really appreciate all the support we get here. If anyone is ever in the same boat there is the Army Welfare Service that offers support to families. If they can't help then I'm sure they can put us in touch with someone who can. 373-468-022 wrote: There is a list of kink friendly counselors in many areas. MGs Any idea where we can find this list MGs? Just for the record, My decision to move to a different post did factor in Claire's anxieties but she wasn't the only person slowly going crazy when we were apart. Sooner or later she'll realise she's more important to me than the job and just because a decision I've made suits her, it doesn't mean I'm regretting it. I wish I'd done it sooner. We've spent far too much time apart in the last few years and hopefully that will be put right in the next couple of months. Will 24 Jan 09, 3:47 PM 373-468-022 US(WA), 3 yrs Y! Will, Yes, here are a couple links. http://www.ncsfreedom.org/index.php?option=com_w... http://www.ironshrink.com/index.php i won't say i agree with everything this man writes, but he is on the right track, and may be able to answer your question about the military. Can't hurt to ask? http://gloria-brame.com/ Gloria also has a list of kink friendly professionals. Good Luck, i hope this helps some. MGs "It's the submissives that show to others what type of Dom owns them." - Anonymous "If you want to kiss the sky, better learn how to kneel." Mysterious Ways- U2 24 Jan 09, 4:04 PM ClairesCO UK, 3 yrs Thanks MGs, much appreciated Will 24 Jan 09, 10:15 PM 662-935-655 5 yrs Well the best i can say is that, for me, i knew it when it had me! (GRIN) It is also what makes me keep an oath to my late Master/Husband to never serve another, as lonely as life gets, although He is not here to enforce it - as well as other things that were important to Him that i keep up with, although He's not (physically) here and can't "correct" me for not doing those things. Maybe one should call it an attitude? One that goes very deep! j/L Papa's owned always: still proudly wearing His Collar and Ring, rest in peace Beloved Master/Husband! alias "granny" matrika ye olde crone, blessed be! 31 Jan 09, 11:07 AM humananimaltrainer 3 yrs Well done Will. The worst thing either of you can do is concern yourselves with "events" that may not ever eventuate. Several years ago my vocation as a long distance heavy vehicle driver was statistically, and still is far more dangerous than all the Australian armed services put together serving in Iraq. Our industry fatalities generally had been one driver dead per day nationally, with approximately 370 fatalities last year alone. During one specific period statistics were released stating that I had a 1 in 80,000 chance of arriving home uninjured or alive. Needless to say this put considerable strain on my relationship, and coupled with other issues led to the demise of that dynamic and ultimately the relationship. Five years have passed since then, I'm still doing the same work and.....I'M STILL ALIVE. While I have changed my situation a little I have learned not to stress and accept that the next day could be my last. While we each have an ability to reduce risk, no matter what your situation in life is, it would be impossible to elliminate it unless you lived in a bubble, but then some idiot would come along and burst that too. Enjoy the now and live every day as if it is your last. Claire just needs to relax a little more and not confuse herself with issues that she, or anyone else for that matter have no control over. The other day here in one of our capital cities the temperature reached 45 degrees celsius. Eighteen people died that day. Edited 31 Jan 09, 8:47 PM by humananimaltrainer 27 May 09, 7:50 PM Master_SL CA, 5 yrs PuppyClaire wrote: I don't understand IE I don't mean any disrespect with this thread, I'm curious about something i don't understand. I understand what IE means, but I'm trying to understand "why". Why do dominants seek to instill this in their relationships?....what does it add? I'll be the first to admit I have a wierd D/s relationship. I'm new to everything and my partner is both new and would argue that he isn't a dom, he's just the person I'm submissive to. We're doing many things that would fit in a D/s relationship but as there is no point system for qualifying or not I can only judge it by the fact that we're really happy. I have a partner who doesn't really want to change me and who I'd do anything for whether he ordered it, commanded it or just asked, I'd do it. I've been trying to figure out what would be different about our relationship if I had been IE'd (sorry, not sure of the right term here) and I can only think of one thing. I left Will early last year because I couldn't cope with the risks attached to his job and and him being away. If I'd been unable to leave him I don't think I would have been better able to cope with that, I'd just have been anxious about leaving and anxious about staying. That sounds a bit scary to me. Do I just have a relationship where IE really wouldn't apply?, or does IE have a function for the dominant that I just can't understand because I'm submissive? Do you have to be dominant to understand it? Does the fact that in 6 months I had virtually no interest in anyone else and got myself into a mess that only sorted itself out when he came back into my life mean I'm already a little IE'd?...or does the fact that right now I couldn't imagine being apart from him ever again mean that...or do they both just mean that I love him? I'd love to understand better what it adds to a relationship, and whether people feel it adds to every D/s relationship or just some. Claire Ok so I am a bit confused...He isnt your Dom but lemme ask ya...would you be a puppy with just anyone? Just throwing a bone out there. 27 Jul 09, 5:17 PM slave_sarah56 UK, 3 yrs I think for me IE is something which would develop over time, it's difficult if not 24/7, due to the intensity of the relationship it is something which may gradually creep in - into the slave's mind. Someone once asked me to write a poem to describe IE... Internally Enslaved If, by chance a question asked, unknowing and curious to see, then, by will of want alone, the answer, this to be... The cavern mind, a darkened place, we wander from within, and deep within the darkest realm, we chain ourselves to HIM. We ourselves create the chains; we forge each day and night, from seed of thought and growing need, in awe before his sight. Before His might, like storm and cloud, a vortex, to be sure, a living mind within our own, we placed by will and awe. If by chance, that we regret, or yearn to free our chain, as we had forged and nurtured be, to break, would be in vain. The rub in this that we create, ourselves as slaves we are, within the chambers of the mind, we place ourselves afar. To HIM, in thought we are affixed, and cannot be set free, and wait, affixed on puppet string, in service this to be. Romantic, may this notion seem, we are children of the heart, in dreams we place HIM high above, we ride the devil's cart. Not understand, will those who see, and judge and place us damned, we are the purest form of love, and freely walk this land. We hear HIS thought, we hear HIS mind, and unable to let go, and wait to hear his word command, or else we cry in woe. This is the highest power exchange, we ride its wondrous wave, bound by our internal embrace; we are internally enslaved. (probably edited for typing errors) 3 Dec 09, 8:02 PM PolygamistTestament US, 2 yrs Lord_Laraby wrote: In my thinking the benefits speak for themselves. I get an enslaved female who is bound not with chains, but with the invisible impervious bonds of internal enslavement. I hope you do not find this comment flippant, but Amen brother, Amen.