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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "The Gift" 1 2 3 4 The Gift (35) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 8 Jan 10, 6:10 AM nequam AU, 6 yrs To be honest, i've never heard a slave say it was a gift, only submissives. Is it a gift? The gift of opportunity to have someone to control? i don't think so. To my mind, a gift is something you freely give for the other person's pleasure. When i gave myself to Master it couldn't be called a 'gift' because truth is, i am getting as much out of it as He is. i give myself to Him but i also give myself the opportunity to fill my own need to surrender to Him. If i'm getting something out of my own giving, isn't that a lot like someone giving you a gift because they will get a benefit out of doing so? It's not really a nice feeling when you find that out, someone doesn't feel like a genuine gift at all. owned property of Sir Trisk 19 Feb 10, 3:21 PM slave_phoenix CA, 2 yrs Here's a different way to look at this subject and forgive me if I have this wrong because this is relatively new to me.... Does a Master / Mistress need a slave / submissive or does a slave / submissive need a Master / Mistress. Who is hunting? Who is searching for who? In my opinion, a slave / submissive feels there is something missing in there lives, a void that can only be filled by an experienced, patient Owner. So the search begins to find a Master / Mistress that can help fill that void by educating, teaching, loving, nurturing, guiding, disciplining the slave / submissive. Once a slave is confident the Master / Mistress is able to provide those elements (and more), the slave / submissive offers themselves to their Owner, with the understanding the "void" will disappear over time. That being said, the Master / Mistress receives an obligation to help their slave grow, better yet, "transform" into a a better person, a more educated person, more disciplined, a more peaceful person...It is a HUGE undertaking by the Master / Mistress and should not be taken lightly. Without the Master / Mistress accepting the slave / submissive, there would always be that "void" within the slave / submissive. That is why a slave / submissive MUST respect, serve, obey their Owner because they have the most to gain. So in essence, the slave has receive a gift, a gift that he or she must cherish and do whatever is require to ensure that their Master or Mistress continues to feel the love and the respect, regardless of whatever service(s) must be performed. Remember, it may have been many years that some slaves / submissive have been searching to fill that "void". My suggestion is cherish the gift you have received and obey all commands, verbal or non-verbal. Property of Mistress Val slave phoenix 20 Feb 10, 3:23 AM 842-520-015 US, 4 yrs Y! this one does not believe that her submission or servitude is a gift but something that comes naturally to her. however, a gift was surely given to this one on the day that she met her Master and he choose her to be his Edited 20 Feb 10, 3:24 AM by 842-520-015 22 Feb 10, 4:55 PM diaperboy99 US(WI), 2 yrs Remoses wrote: The Gift I have read that some slaves regard their service as a gift to their Masters or Owners. I wonder about this. Could it not be said that the offer of Mastery or Ownership is also a gift to the slaves? Service is a wonderful thing, surely. But is it not also true that to assume the responsibility of aother person is also a gift in its own right? Owning a slave is a lot of work...it is not all about sitting o your ass while your slave is a "step and fetch it". An Owner quite literally assumes the responsibility for another person. That is not easy, I assure you...parents know this! I also wonder about this supposed "gift" of service. Is this not so different from women who use their sexuality as a bargaining tool to negotiate an agreeable position with a Man? Anyway, is that not a little dishonest or dishonorable? Is that not using sex as a bargaining chip? Is that not so different from selling sex? But look we are all culpable in these transactions, Men and women alike. All of us participate in these bargains. But still, I wonder about the "gift of service". What are your thoughts? I am Remoses. My take is that submission is the gift, and once given cannot be taken back. After the slave has submitted it becomes property and so its obedience is compulsory, and its use the affair of its Owner and it has no further say about it. 25 Feb 10, 2:58 PM 644-588-442 US(IN), 3 yrs Remoses wrote: The Gift Owning a slave is a lot of work...it is not all about sitting o your ass while your slave is a "step and fetch it". An Owner quite literally assumes the responsibility for another person. That is not easy, I assure you...parents know this! this is a wonderful topic. i've always felt that my Daddy is the one who has given me the gift and he continues to give me the wonderful gift of true ownership every time he reminds me of my place in our relationship. i see people say how submission is a gift all the time but what i don't see often enough is people say how hard it is to own someone and all the work that goes into it. i put my body, mind, heart and soul in my Daddys hands because he understands the responsibility. i am so grateful he is my Daddy.