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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "opinions on a wild slave" 1 2 3 4 opinions on a wild slave (31) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 21 Dec 08, 6:33 PM anjuli UK, 4 yrs Absolutely p. Well said. @ Darkolar - I don't see anyone trying to 'cut her down' and certainly not 'for what she is'. Would have been a challenge as we actually didn't know! I think you're seeing something that's not there. Personally, I offered advice to her as a submissive... nothing more or less... and quickly realised that what was being discussed (wildness) was not what I first thought so let others take over and help as they could. No-one is going to bash your kink here and if they do they will no doubt be reminded to be more tolerant and polite by other members so you can relax. It's not one I personally know much about or have a lot of understanding of so I'd not offer advice but I doubt either of you would find this a barrier to a welcome here. Do you live as D/s or M/s too? In other words does you dynamic extend into everyday life or not? That will help us as to which boards will get you the most and best advice. anjuli Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Blessed Yule, Eid Mubarak! *** May your Saturnalia be super and your Longest Night lovely! *** Have a wonderful Winter Solstice, a fruitful First Fruits or a cracking Kwanza! *** Whatever you're celebrating... have a good one. 21 Dec 08, 7:54 PM EvaMaria US(CA), 3 yrs DarKolar wrote: In this post I see many trying to help My slave, and My praise goes to Y/you. Unfortunately I also see a few here trying to cut My slave down for being who and what she is. I have an issue with this, but it is more of a difference of oppinion and as such, I will leave that alone. I will however fill in more about the situation here so that a better understanding of the situation can be had by A/all. If you feel such remarks have been made, please be plain. I would not want to be perceived as cutting, but if I have caused that feeling, best to tell it and give us a chance for sorting out. No matter, though - Welcome! Camille 22 Dec 08, 12:13 AM DarKolar US(OR), 3 yrs anjuli wrote: Absolutely p. Well said. Do you live as D/s or M/s too? In other words does you dynamic extend into everyday life or not? That will help us as to which boards will get you the most and best advice. anjuli W/we are in a D/s and are in a 24/7 life. As far as the ones that were trying to cut down My slave/pet, it is not what I see, but the way that she felt and that is the direction of where I was comming from. Most of the direction that things are at is that she feels that she is being called a bad slave for being "wild". The trick here is to tame, but not to break her spirit. I am Thine as Thou art Mine 22 Dec 08, 12:19 AM Sir4Ryco 6 yrs Hi DarKolar, I have some questions for you. Please message me the answers if you don't want to answer in forum. A simple, "it's too personal for me to answer" will also suffice so don't feel pressured. --Are you 24/7 M/s and is your slave what we would refer to here as IE? --Do you combine the two life styles (or is it like my slave and I belonging to a black powder club . . . roleplay as opposed to psychological need)? If so do you think they interfere with one another? How? --Does your interaction (i.e. the physical application of rituals and protocols) as master and slave change when you are in your furry personas? --Is there a large amount of D/s or M/s in the Furry Community? Sorry, I'm cursed with a deeply curious and a blunt nature. I would truly love to see your answers. I've been forming these question in my mind ever since I saw a CSI where the episode revolved around a Furry convention. In my mind I saw a D/s version of a furry relationship growing along the lines of a puppy or a pony relationship but that's obviously all conjecture. Your need to maintain your jaguar's feral-ness makes me think that I might be way off the mark. Take care. Sir4Ryco P.S. I'm asking in the forum because I'm sure others are also brimming with curiosity about these and other questions if you're up for it. 22 Dec 08, 9:12 AM anjuli UK, 4 yrs DarKolar wrote: W/we are in a D/s and are in a 24/7 life. As far as the ones that were trying to cut down My slave/pet, it is not what I see, but the way that she felt and that is the direction of where I was comming from. Most of the direction that things are at is that she feels that she is being called a bad slave for being "wild". The trick here is to tame, but not to break her spirit. Thanks for reposting and straightening that out. Makes a little more sense now but I honestly don't think what she feared is there. My own reply about reactance was wrong. I claim lack of information / bad information as my excuse but it was quickly clear to me by the direction the thread took that I'd missed the mark so I hushed up. What I didn't know was why... what the missing jigsaw piece was... and it's good to get the full picture. So the moral of that bit is... if you want to be understood... be brave and be open. I think you'll get some far better answers now that people are in possession of the facts. And for me... to be more circumspect where it's obvious facts are missing and ask more questions first. As for 'being a bad slave'... whoaaa there... reactance is natural, we all get it, we'd not be approaching human if we didn't... and the good D/O/M welcomes it as a sign of progress. We all break the rules, disobey, let ourselves and our M's down now and then. Working to overcome and be better is what matters and discussion and understanding helps that process. None of us is an angel or the mythical 'perfect' slave. Nor do our Masters break us to achieve their aims as you will no doubt gather if you do a little reading from some of the s-types here. Now that's not what she is or what was happening anyway but as you're D/s as well as furries, I have no doubt that it's good advice for a rainy day anyhoo. We get the odd idiot who pops into a serious thread where someone is struggling to work out how to accept something hard for them with a stupid 'Obey your Master always' reply... and even the odd holier-than-thou 'I always do as I'm told' but those of us in real 24/7 relationships darn well know what the reality is like. I hope you do decide to share a bit more and look forward to the discussion Sir4Ryco has begun with you. anjuli Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Blessed Yule, Eid Mubarak! *** May your Saturnalia be super and your Longest Night lovely! *** Have a wonderful Winter Solstice, a fruitful First Fruits or a cracking Kwanza! *** Whatever you're celebrating... have a good one. 23 Dec 08, 6:31 PM 119-812-164 US, 3 yrs property_of_MacCain wrote: Lol... MacCain prefers me to be domesticated most times but is patient that i become feral. Until He "tames" me again. Usually simply by grabbing my face, that "wakes" me up. Something about the terminology does make it sound silly, i admit. Maybe that is why it is not discussed much. i'm going off to regain some dignity now... p this reminded me of the struggles i see in my puppy, who teaches me a lot about my own 'training', in the way he seems to desire a certain 'dignity' at times, tucking the tail, sulking off, glancing at me over his shoulder as he settles onto is regal maroon pillow. the idea of being able to 'shuck off' dignity is something like shucking off the clothing or 'uniform' of the world at the domestic threshold of the home (as the 'careers' thread seems to connote) and allowing oneself to be completely immersed in the M/s relationship, that is, allowing oneself the ability to completely let go and 'fall' into the hands of the Master. nice description poM. at least this is how i relate to the idea of going 'primal'. i understand that feeling, and like camille's owner, Daddy has called it a 'tantrum'. it is a time when i am literally driven to tears, as tears always surface with my extreme emotion whether it's rage or happiness. The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the absence but in the mastery of his passions.-- Alfred Lord Tennyson To live a creative life we must lose our fear of being wrong. --Joseph Chilton Pearce 24 Dec 08, 1:46 PM DarKolar US(OR), 3 yrs Sir4Ryco wrote: Hi DarKolar, --Are you 24/7 M/s and is your slave what we would refer to here as IE? W/we are both 24/7, M/s, and not certain what is meant by IE --Do you combine the two life styles (or is it like my slave and I belonging to a black powder club . . . roleplay as opposed to psychological need)? If so do you think they interfere with one another? How? W/we actually combine 3 different and distinct lifestyles (BDSM, Gor, and Furry) The physical application changes based on what part of the lifestyles W/we are using at the time. --Does your interaction (i.e. the physical application of rituals and protocols) as master and slave change when you are in your furry personas? In Furry persona, no, just depending on what W/we are doing ATM --Is there a large amount of D/s or M/s in the Furry Community? As far as the amound of M/s or D/ in the furry community, I am not certain. Sorry, I'm cursed with a deeply curious and a blunt nature. I would truly love to see your answers. I've been forming these question in my mind ever since I saw a CSI where the episode revolved around a Furry convention. In my mind I saw a D/s version of a furry relationship growing along the lines of a puppy or a pony relationship but that's obviously all conjecture. Your need to maintain your jaguar's feral-ness makes me think that I might be way off the mark. Take care. Sir4Ryco P.S. I'm asking in the forum because I'm sure others are also brimming with curiosity about these and other questions if you're up for it. I am Thine as Thou art Mine 11 Jan 09, 8:20 PM Kitten341636 UK, 12 yrs [/quote] What i am referring to is an unconscious state of being, a non-verbal, reaction. More of slipping away into an animal state. What triggers this for me would be if i was thoroughly enjoying an act, so much so i slip into sub-space first, then progress into something more primal. Everything fades away but MacCain and i, environment disappears... i don't even know where i am until He shakes me out of it. i literally, claw, bite and growl... which is completely not the norm for me. i have drawn blood. Non of which is out of displeasure, quite the opposite actually... MacCain is quite a bit larger and stronger than me and He has to physically regain the upperhand. He has commented on the fact that another guy wouldn't be able to "handle" me... that i'd scare another guy off. p [/quote] Wow i can really relate to this state .. as when i reach my peak .. everything changes my inner 'wild cat' is released and i'm grateful for my restraints, although i did manage to brake some cuffs once but that because my Master at the time underestimated me .. thats why i also appreciate the comment about a strong Master (in more ways than one) as well as i think i would just bolt if he was too weak to hold me in that state then i don't know what i would do but you are right it is an animal state .. and i too am left weak and exhausted afterwards but it is very pleasurable if controlled for both of us. k. You Cannot help but smile in the company of kittens Edited 15 Jan 09, 9:03 PM by Kitten341636 12 Jan 09, 10:50 PM 386-764-005 CA, 3 yrs Hi A.all i was reading the topic and realized i have the same issues so to speak. i am usually a fiery redhead with a small temper when pushed. The difference now is that i don't direct my temper to my Master or anyone else unless He allows me to do so. The hardest part for me is letting Him handle certain battles. Master says i am a mouthy bitch and i agree so closing my mouth (or not typing) in response to someone's disrespect or stupidity is "very" difficult for me. my first response is to yell or as Master puts it "break my foot off in someone's ass". i am learning "slowly" to breathe and ignore rudeness and let Him make the choices i normally would make. i have to remember, i am an example of Him. if i act badly is reflects on His teachings and O.our relationship. lil-pita 13 Jan 09, 12:39 AM property_of_MacCain 4 yrs 386-764-005 wrote: Hi A.all i was reading the topic and realized i have the same issues so to speak. .... Master says i am a mouthy bitch and i agree so closing my mouth (or not typing) in response to someone's disrespect or stupidity is "very" difficult for me. my first response is to yell or as Master puts it "break my foot off in someone's ass". Hi 386-764-005, i mean no disrespect, but what you are describing in no way was what i was getting at. i am not rude or disrespectful to MacCain. What i was describing was a primal reaction, not a verbal one. The OP was clear that she was not mouthy... the post directly above yours described the phenomenon of the primal aspects... in no way were we referring to spirit in the way you are. MacCain certainly would not allow me to ever become spirited in that way. i just wanted to take a moment to set the record straight. p i breathe because He allows me, indulging Him indulges me. Next page